How much time with Rogaine

[WarLord]

If you can't use propecia it is certainly far better than doing nothing. If you still don't believe me, ask some of the dr's on this board. I will bet you right now that most would agree with me.

If these "dr's" actually know something, I will bet that they will reply that according to the available clinical data, it takes ca. 15 years until regrown haircounts return to baseline. And what will happen then, we don't know.

Naturally, if they know nothing, they will start to repeat the old good fallacy that "minoxidil doesn't address the underlying cause of MPB".

[mpb47]

You have nothing to base this statement on. Everything you have is your personal frustrating experience with which you infect this message board. Furthermore, I can imagine how disciplined you have been during the whole time on minoxidil. Going off for 3 months?! Insanity!

Again ask the Dr's on this board. Also take base line photo's now and then again in 5 years. If you have mpb and are on minox alone ..there is a good chance that it will advance by then.

[mpb47]

I HAVE NO PROBLEM TO POST PICTURES, BY THE WAY.




And you still haven't replied to my question. It seems to me that your history with míinoxidil will be more complicated than it seems - as it is almost always the case with whining hypochondriac guys on message boards.

so post them already-OR be quiet. Lets see the comparison between '97 and now.

If you can safely tolerate propecia you are foolish not to use it.

[WarLord]

Again ask the Dr's on this board. Also take base line photo's now and then again in 5 years. If you have mpb and are on minox alone ..there is a good chance that it will advance by then.

Can you understand the simple thing that minoxidil is a hair growth stimulator and hence it is not only able to regrow hair, but even keep it? Actually, it works much better for maintenance than for regrowth. 5 years? Are you kidding? Who spreads such a bullsh*t?

Minoxidil will certainly keep your hair for much longer than 5 years. In fact, I quoted the studies, in which one-third of patients was continually GAINING hair after 4-5 years on 3% minoxidil.

I don't care, what doctors say. Many of them don't have a personal experience with the stuff they are commenting, and only parrot misleading pieces of information.

[WarLord]

so post them already-OR be quiet. Lets see the comparison between '97 and now.

If you can safely tolerate propecia you are foolish not to use it.

From your confused posts, it seems to me that minoxidil has never worked in you, and that you were pretty sloppy with the application. The fact that you didn't mind quitting it for 3 months (PURE INSANITY!) shows that you have hardly had any problems with stopping the use for several days or weeks.

[mpb47]

Can you understand the simple thing that minoxidil is a hair growth stimulator and hence it is not only able to regrow hair, but even keep it? Actually, it works much better for maintenance than for regrowth. 5 years? Are you kidding? Who spreads such a bullsh*t?

Minoxidil will certainly keep your hair for much longer than 5 years. In fact, I quoted the studies, in which one-third of patients was continually GAINING hair after 4-5 years on 3% minoxidil.

I don't care, what doctors say. Many of them don't have a personal experience with the stuff they are commenting, and only parrot misleading pieces of information.

Minox forces hair to stay in growing cycle , but it doesn't stop your testosterone from converting to DHT. You need to address that or otherwise your hormones will slowly get the best of you.

[mpb47]

From your confused posts, it seems to me that minoxidil has never worked in you, and that you were pretty sloppy with the application. The fact that you didn't mind quitting it for 3 months (PURE INSANITY!) shows that you have hardly had any problems with stopping the use for several days or weeks.

Minox is working as good as it can alone.

So where are your pics???

[WarLord]

Minox forces hair to stay in growing cycle , but it doesn't stop your testosterone from converting to DHT. You need to address that or otherwise your hormones will slowly get the best of you.

No. Your reasoning is not correct. Minoxidil doesn't address DHT that starts the chain of reactions leading to the follicles' death; yet it addresses reactions at the end of this chain (probably the balance of prostaglandins). Hence it works a different way than 5-AR blockers, but in the end, it doesn't matter, how it works, because the result is similar.

[WarLord]

Minox is working as good as it can alone.

So where are your pics???

I just added them already.

I don't know, what so interesting you will see on my pics. Just a normal hair with ca. 1 cm recession in temples.

[mpb47]

No. Your reasoning is not correct. Minoxidil doesn't address DHT that starts the chain of reactions leading to the follicles' death; yet it addresses reactions at the end of this chain (probably the balance of prostaglandins). Hence it works a different way than 5-AR blockers, but in the end, it doesn't matter, how it works, because the result is similar.

Well, all I can say is when I first noticed I was starting to thin in the crown, I posted pics and asked for help. I told everyone I was on minox. Several guys thought there was nothing wrong and said if they had hair like me, they wouldn't be on any hair boards. Some said yea it was the start of mpb but I might have many years before I needed anything beside minox. But one guy who was older (he runs one of the other hair boards- hlh I believe) and already had mpb for a good while told me that minox is good but on minox alone my crown would continue to develop/expand. I waited about 2 years to see for myself and he was right as during those 2 years my crown was quickly forming despite minox. Yet my mpb stopped cold dead when I added propecia. A good bit of my crown reversed and my hairline even filled in.

There was no mistake that it was making a difference. If you can tolerate propecia, you should use it.

[mpb47]

[QUOTE=WarLord;114236]I just added them already.

I don't know, what so interesting you will see on my pics. Just a normal hair with ca. 1 cm recession in temples.

You will see...now do this:

You should take pics of your crown as well. Save these pics and then take new ones in 5 years and compare.

Because your hair is so short I can't tell if you have minituration or just a mature hairline. If it's just a mature hairline, you may not even need minox yet.

[WarLord]

You will see...now do this:

You should take pics of your crown as well. Save these pics and then take new ones in 5 years and compare.

Because your hair is so short I can't tell if you have minituration or just a mature hairline. If it's just a mature hairline, you may not even need minox yet.

First of all, you should think over your discipline, not over my hair. If you are able to quit minoxidil for 3 months, then it shows that you have no idea, how this stuff works. Can I guess, how you were using it all those years? And the worst thing is that undisciplined, ill-informed people like you then come on internet forums to spread their agenda "how minoxidil doesn't maintain hair".

It maintains hair quite well, for decades, but it needs everyday's compliance, which only a handful of people possess. My experience from other forums is similar. I find guys screaming that minoxidil once worked great, but then it mysteriously stopped working after few years. Then I read their posts and I find jewels like "I seriously think my hair is heavily dependant on the minox now as if I ever have upto 7 days without applying it..."

What the hell do you all think? That the hair will stay on your head even without minoxidil, thanks to some magic? Minoxidil doesn't forgive. If you are not able to use it everyday, then don't start to use it at all!

[polarbro]

First of all, you should think over your discipline, not over my hair. If you are able to quit minoxidil for 3 months, then it shows that you have no idea, how this stuff works. Can I guess, how you were using it all those years? And the worst thing is that undisciplined, ill-informed people like you then come on internet forums to spread their agenda "how minoxidil doesn't maintain hair".

It maintains hair quite well, for decades, but it needs everyday's compliance, which only a handful of people possess. My experience from other forums is similar. I find guys screaming that minoxidil once worked great, but then it mysteriously stopped working after few years. Then I read their posts and I find jewels like "I seriously think my hair is heavily dependant on the minox now as if I ever have upto 7 days without applying it..."

What the hell do you all think? That the hair will stay on your head even without minoxidil, thanks to some magic? Minoxidil doesn't forgive. If you are not able to use it everyday, then don't start to use it at all!

sorry to bump an old thread but I am about to start rogaine and was googling about it. i just have to post and hope that people do not take this posters advice. Why are you attacking this guy for "imaginary side effects." You have no idea if they are made up or not, and even if they are, Im pretty sure he is allowed to do whatever he wants. You say you have kept ALL of your hair since 1997 yet the picture in your profile....im sorry but your hair looks terrible. the entire scalp is visible and the top is so thin and disperse. I think you would do yourself a favor by shaving. Really no need to be so hostile. Some people do get side effects from Propecia, I myself had minor gyno from it, although I dont regret trying.

[mpb47]

sorry to bump an old thread but I am about to start rogaine and was googling about it. i just have to post and hope that people do not take this posters advice. Why are you attacking this guy for "imaginary side effects." You have no idea if they are made up or not, and even if they are, Im pretty sure he is allowed to do whatever he wants. You say you have kept ALL of your hair since 1997 yet the picture in your profile....im sorry but your hair looks terrible. the entire scalp is visible and the top is so thin and disperse. I think you would do yourself a favor by shaving. Really no need to be so hostile. Some people do get side effects from Propecia, I myself had minor gyno from it, although I dont regret trying.

I am not sure why he believes that minox alone will stop mpb for many years. It can buy you a lot of time if you mpb is slow by making it even slower. But my experience is that I still got slowly worse. About two and half months ago I went back on propecia as in the past that did stop and reverse mine. But this time I am on a low dose. Several of us are doing it as an experiment. I am doing .25 2x a week. The only thing I have noticed so far, and it could be a coincidence, is a slight reduction in body hair. It did that the first time I was on it so I am hoping this is a good sign. You may see if you can tolerate a small dose once or twice a week. If you can't I will say minox has bought me a lot of time and works well for me, esp in the back. good luck!

[Notcoolanymore]

im sorry but your hair looks terrible. the entire scalp is visible and the top is so thin and disperse. I think you would do yourself a favor by shaving.

Dayum!