3rd Procedure with Gho

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    Originally posted by 534623
    Oh, this is difficult to prove, because when the not extracted hairs (the not "slit" hairs) grow longer, you can't see the dwarf hairs anymore. And if you shave the donor area - of course, then all the hairs have the same dwarf hair length - so you can't distinguish.
    ops, sorry - I forgot the most important part:
    So after multiple HST procedures in your donor area, and always in the same area (safety zone) ....

    ... you will look like this - if you don't always shave your hair. Because all the "slit" hairs remain dwarf hairs and after many procedures, of course, once upon a time, practically ALL hairs in the safety zone got "slit" and therefore, once upon a time, ALL hairs will remain dwarf hairs. So always shaving your head is the key! Or the smaller the safety zone - the better! So you can eventually cover up the dwarf hairs.

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    • Skywalker
      Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 63

      Originally posted by gc83uk
      Skywalker were you turned away for the 50 graft test because he doesn't do it anymore or have you been turned away from HST altogether by Gho?
      The 50 graft test - because he doesn't do it on what he considers straight forward cases - as it is a money loser for him. At least, that is the only reason I can see for him refusing, and he did comment that it takes as long to set up for the 50 graft test as a full paying HST..

      If I were to go back and look to have a full procedure then first I would go there and grow my hair out so that they could see properly the miniaturisation in the lower part of the donor area - I want them to be sure they can get a decent amount of grafts out with what I have left and when you cut to a #0 guard as I do all the time it is difficult with the naked eye (at least for me) to see what is miniaturised and what isn't.

      They certainly didn't have any concern about doing HST on me once I explained my limited expectations but I would want to make 100% certain they knew what they were taking on.

      BTW, I am NOT a NW7 - definitely an advanced NW6. I think proper NW7's are a different proposition again.

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      • maxhair
        Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 97

        Originally posted by 534623
        ops, sorry - I forgot the most important part:
        So after multiple HST procedures in your donor area, and always in the same area (safety zone) ....

        ... you will look like this - if you don't always shave your hair. Because all the "slit" hairs remain dwarf hairs and after many procedures, of course, once upon a time, practically ALL hairs in the safety zone got "slit" and therefore, once upon a time, ALL hairs will remain dwarf hairs. So always shaving your head is the key! Or the smaller the safety zone - the better! So you can eventually cover up the dwarf hairs.
        Is this a "joke", or not?

        People are saying you are kidding us on about hairs only growing to 1mm etc.

        It's confusing for me, and I'm on here to get information about a serious medical issue, not for practical jokes.

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        • clarence
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 278

          Originally posted by Skywalker
          The 50 graft test - because he doesn't do it on what he considers straight forward cases - as it is a money loser for him. At least, that is the only reason I can see for him refusing, and he did comment that it takes as long to set up for the 50 graft test as a full paying HST..
          You say 'straight forward'. Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3 comes in and says he wants a few grafts, say, 300 just to give a little bit more definition to the hairline/forelock, and Dr. Gho says "No I don't do straightforward cases! But you can get a FUE from Rahal", so the patient says "ok take as much money as you would take from a full procedure, but don't take as many grafts", and Dr. Gho says "Get out of here!" This what you mean?

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          • Skywalker
            Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 63

            Originally posted by clarence
            You say 'straight forward'. Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3 comes in and says he wants a few grafts, say, 300 just to give a little bit more definition to the hairline/forelock, and Dr. Gho says "No I don't do straightforward cases! But you can get a FUE from Rahal", so the patient says "ok take as much money as you would take from a full procedure, but don't take as many grafts", and Dr. Gho says "Get out of here!" This what you mean?
            Read the posts in this thread Clarence - good grief, is english your second or third language ? That is the only way I can see that you cannot get it.

            maxhair - you think it is unfair that people don't want to pay you to have a trial HST (+ expenses of course) - and then when gc83uk offers you evidence for free which you cannot be bothered to search for - you are continually rude to him ! You are coming over as a complete and utter TOOL.

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            • clarence
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 278

              Ok, guess I'm the only one to who is unfamiliar with the expression "straight forward" in this context

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              • Skywalker
                Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 63

                "Do you mean straightforward, like a Norwood 3"

                <sigh>
                I'm a NW6, I say it in that very post you just read ! I also explain earlier in the thread what is less "straight forward" - we are talking extraction of follicles here and skin contrast - certainly nothing to do with how much hair you have in the recipient area.

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                • maxhair
                  Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 97

                  Originally posted by Skywalker

                  maxhair - you think it is unfair that people don't want to pay you to have a trial HST (+ expenses of course) - and then when gc83uk offers you evidence for free which you cannot be bothered to search for - you are continually rude to him ! You are coming over as a complete and utter TOOL.
                  Yeah, good points. Where's the evidence?

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                  • Skywalker
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 63

                    Originally posted by maxhair
                    Yeah, good points. Where's the evidence?
                    Good points indeed - whistle dixie

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                    • maxhair
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 97

                      ... the evidence, anyone?

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1854

                        Originally posted by 534623
                        Very receptive - because Dr. Gho believes anyhow, that this is realistic.



                        So as soon as someone in this field comes up with a "2 follicles from 1 follicle" version for the recipient area - Dr. Gho will come up with the same - but donor regeneration still INCLUDED (=3 follicles from 1 follicle)!
                        By the way...
                        I wonder why Spencer (or someone else) didn't ask Dr. Gho how he sees the future of hair multiplication in general, and also about what he is thinking about the work of other companies in this field like Aderans, Histogen, Replicel etc.

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          Gaz, how is it going ? Looking forward to the shaved head photo's (and JJJr's analysis, he did an awesome job earlier, best analysis by far)

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by Arashi

                            JJJr's analysis, he did an awesome job earlier, best analysis by far
                            I do not agree. I find this analysis...

                            ...much much better.

                            Oh, and, of course, you can even zoom-in...

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                            • maxhair
                              Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 97

                              Originally posted by 534623
                              By the way...
                              I wonder why Spencer (or someone else) didn't ask Dr. Gho how he sees the future of hair multiplication in general, and also about what he is thinking about the work of other companies in this field like Aderans, Histogen, Replicel etc.
                              Gho told me that he'll incorporate Histogen into his practice when it comes out.

                              He also told me that he's had Acell since it was only available for animal use - and that it doesn't work because adult stem cells can not regenerate.

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                Originally posted by 534623
                                I do not agree. I find this analysis...
                                Haha I knew you would feel insulted You're such a little girl, it's almost cute. But seriously, you really can't disagree, his analysis with all those reference lines he drew, is way more solid than yours. Best by far.

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