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  • Vox
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 298

    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Simple maths can answer this. Assuming my original bald area is 100cm2 exlcuding my hairline area which I may thicken up on my last procedure...

    100cm2 attempting to get 50 grafts per cm2, so 5000 grafts.
    I am thinking now about more difficult cases like mine. Say you have to cover 200 cm^2 relatively sparsely with 30-35 grafts per cm^2. This is 6000-7000 grafts, feasible in 4-5 years if the donor regeneration works after that many extractions. Do you (or anyone) have an idea how this would look like buzzed down to ~0.5-1.0 cm? What is the average number of hairs per graft with this method? Sorry if it was posted somewhere and I missed it.

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    • maxhair
      Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 97

      Yappity yappity. Get on with it man. Some of us are bald as a motherf*cker.

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      • Vox
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 298

        Originally posted by didi
        Cool, Maxhair can volunteer and get 50 grafts test done, Spencer Kobren can sponsor it, its only about 700 bucks

        Gho cant say No to Spencer or else it will look like he is hiding something


        It will finally solve HST mystery



        JJ can you talk to spence about this, its brilliant idea
        I concur. I am very curious to see such results.

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        • gc83uk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1339

          Originally posted by Vox
          I am thinking now about more difficult cases like mine. Say you have to cover 200 cm^2 relatively sparsely with 30-35 grafts per cm^2. This is 6000-7000 grafts, feasible in 4-5 years if the donor regeneration works after that many extractions. Do you (or anyone) have an idea how this would look like buzzed down to ~0.5-1.0 cm? What is the average number of hairs per graft with this method? Sorry if it was posted somewhere and I missed it.
          Vox, tough to answer, but if you've seen my recipient photos after my 1st and 2nd HST you'll be able to what 30-35 grafts per cm2 looks like.

          I'll be adding some new photos this week showing my entire area including my 3rd HST which is probably around 30-35 grafts on a completely slick area total approx 85-100cm2. So as you can imagine its far from thick, but when buzzed to number 1 which is 3mm then it looks ok. Anyway I'll let you be the judge of that in a couple of days.

          Reason why I haven't uploaded any new recipient photos since immediately after the procedure is because initially the area is a bit scabby, but it's all cleared now so photos will look better.

          It's worth noting the new photos from the recipient will be minus about 25% of the grafts, I've shed a bit unfortunately as it's been about 3 weeks now. The real representation will be in about 3 months from now.

          Also you could achieve 6000 - 7000 within 3.5 years (4 treatments, 9 months apart).

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          • gc83uk
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1339

            Originally posted by maxhair
            Yappity yappity. Get on with it man. Some of us are bald as a motherf*cker.
            Just lose the attitude yea and we'll talk properly. ok?

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            • maxhair
              Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 97

              ... the world is waiting.

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              • gc83uk
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2011
                • 1339

                Originally posted by maxhair
                ... the world is waiting.
                Nobody is waiting but you.

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by JJJJrS
                  Why not? I could use a little bit of income on the side Maybe maxhair can pay us $1000 after we analyse his results?
                  hmmrrm...maybe it's ok for you, but I think I would charge him twice as much. Okay, perhaps without labelling every single encircled extraction site with numbers, he can get a discount - so he has just to pay $1,999.99 instead of.

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                  • Vox
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 298

                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Vox, tough to answer, but if you've seen my recipient photos after my 1st and 2nd HST you'll be able to what 30-35 grafts per cm2 looks like.

                    I'll be adding some new photos this week showing my entire area including my 3rd HST which is probably around 30-35 grafts on a completely slick area total approx 85-100cm2. So as you can imagine its far from thick, but when buzzed to number 1 which is 3mm then it looks ok. Anyway I'll let you be the judge of that in a couple of days.

                    Reason why I haven't uploaded any new recipient photos since immediately after the procedure is because initially the area is a bit scabby, but it's all cleared now so photos will look better.

                    It's worth noting the new photos from the recipient will be minus about 25% of the grafts, I've shed a bit unfortunately as it's been about 3 weeks now. The real representation will be in about 3 months from now.
                    It's OK gc83uk, take your time. I will wait. I have already lost what I was to lose from my hair (or so I think), I want just to get an idea of what my head will look like if I decide to take the plunge. After reading such forums for years, it seems to me that the only viable and future proof solutions that work right now are FUE and HST.

                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Also you could achieve 6000 - 7000 within 3.5 years (4 treatments, 9 months apart).
                    I remember having read somewhere about multiday FUE mega-sessions for high NW'ers. Can you, or anyone, confirm and summarize the pros and the cons of such procedures? If they are for real, why hasci does not do the same with HST?

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                    • maxhair
                      Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 97

                      Yeah, I'm the only bald guy on here looking for concise proof. Great point.

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                      • gc83uk
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1339

                        Originally posted by maxhair
                        Yeah, I'm the only bald guy on here looking for concise proof. Great point.
                        Knew you'd come round to agreeing.

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                        • LMS
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 226

                          GC, what kind of density are you going to be looking for in the hairline?

                          I know Dr Gho can do 50-60 cm2 with regular transplantation methods however thats only roughly 100-120 hairs per cm2 (at 2 hairs a graft average) which is a far cry from the average Caucasian density of 200 hairs per cm2.

                          I'm hoping it'll be possible to maybe increase density from 50 grafts cm2 to 100 grafts per cm2 with the injection method. It'd be great at least in the hairline.

                          Also totally off topic, I remember reading somewhere that you make a living online. I also run an online business and it is how I'm obviously going to be funding my procedures with Gho.

                          What sort of industry are you in? I do paid traffic to CPA offers.

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by Vox

                            I remember having read somewhere about multiday FUE mega-sessions for high NW'ers. Can you, or anyone, confirm and summarize the pros and the cons of such procedures? If they are for real, why hasci does not do the same with HST?
                            Btw - my English is a little bit shitty, so I do not understand everything ...

                            Spencer Kobren speaks with Dr. Coen Gho, about the current status and efficacy of his proprietary hair restoration technique, Hair Stem Cell Transplantation (HST). For daily updates on the world of hair loss follow Spencer Kobren on Twitter @spencerkobren Subscribe: iTunes (audio) | iTunes (video) | Zune (audio) | Zune (video) | RSS (audio) |...


                            Starting at 39:40>>> what is Dr. Gho saying concerning NW5 or NW6 guys and concerning their safety zone in the donor area?

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                            • Vox
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 298

                              Originally posted by 534623
                              Btw - my English is a little bit shitty, so I do not understand everything ...

                              Spencer Kobren speaks with Dr. Coen Gho, about the current status and efficacy of his proprietary hair restoration technique, Hair Stem Cell Transplantation (HST). For daily updates on the world of hair loss follow Spencer Kobren on Twitter @spencerkobren Subscribe: iTunes (audio) | iTunes (video) | Zune (audio) | Zune (video) | RSS (audio) |...


                              Starting at 39:40>>> what is Dr. Gho saying concerning NW5 or NW6 guys and concerning their safety zone in the donor area?
                              Nothing special. He just says that they can help in NW5/6 class since they use the DHT-insensitive area.

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                              • 534623
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 1854

                                Originally posted by Vox
                                Nothing special. He just says that they can help in NW5/6 class since they use the DHT-insensitive area.
                                I think he "highlighted" the safety-zone area part, what actually means "IF we always just use the safety-zone and do not extract OUTSIDE the safety zone" - what they acually do. That's what I think what he meant.

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