The Ironman Procedure

[Arashi]

Because there is no confirmation for your "email post". And why don't you simply ask her AGAIN?
Why should I ask her? I have nothing to do with your doctor - or your pretended "HST procedure".

What do you want me to ask her again ? If it was a joke what she told me ? If she made it up ? YOU are the one who doesn't believe what she's saying. I don't have ANY reason to doubt here myself.

[Arashi]

Ah well I've already emailed Deborah Smaal, she knows her stuff, so I'll post whatever she says here

Please, do email Kristel as well and ask her if I quoted her post or not, since Nazi Schweinhund seems to think I'm making it up and doesn't want to email her to verify it (I'm sure that that is because he actually KNOWS it's the truth).

[gc83uk]

Please, do email Kristel as well and ask her if I quoted her post or not, since Nazi Schweinhund seems to think I'm making it up and doesn't want to email her to verify it (because he actually KNOWS it's the truth).

I can't do that pal, they'll just say patient confidentiality etc.

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

[Arashi]

I can't do that pal, they'll just say patient confidentiality etc.

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

Patient confidentiality ? What's the confidentiality if I am stating myself what she has told me ? Look, if you really don't believe me, just ask Kristel. You have my permission Or just send her the quote and let her confirm if this is something that she actually told a patient.

[Arashi]

Let's just wait and see what she has to say on it first.

But what's the use, if you quote her response email, just like I did, Nazi Schweinhund will just say you're making it up (unless it's Gho-positive of course).

[Arashi]

But again, I really don't get what the fuzz is all about. I mean, isn't it only logical that failed extractions have a WAY better regrowth ratio (next to 100%) AND grow back first ?

[534623]

You really don't get it, eh. Get your ugly head out of your fat ass for once and TRY to understand that not everyone here swallows everything that Gho states like sweet pie. Some people actually USE their heads for thinking and want to know FACTS.

Right, and therefore Dr. Gho explained your "unsuccessful extractions" a long time ago in his paper ...

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

... even with a PHOTO of such an "unsuccessful graft"!
And even with detailed COUNTS of the unsuccessful grafts!
Really EVERYTHING - there is absolutely nothing new about this issue - NOTHING!

[gc83uk]

Patient confidentiality ? What's the confidentiality if I am stating myself what she has told me ? Look, if you really don't believe me, just ask Kristel. You have my permission

I believe you, but the answer she gave you in that email is terrible. I'm surprised you never emailed back because using words like 'often' is just not conclusive especially when you have heard and read Gho saying he regrowth after a week.

Why didn't you query that at the time?

[Arashi]

Right, and therefore Dr. Gho explained your "unsuccessful extractions" a long time ago in is paper ...

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

... even with a PHOTO of such an "unsuccessful graft"!
Even with COUNTS of the unsuccessful grafts!

Great paper ! But again, what are you're trying to say ?

[Arashi]

I believe you, but the answer she gave you in that email is terrible. I'm surprised you never emailed back because using words like 'often' is just not conclusive especially when you have heard and read Gho saying he regrowth after a week.

Why didn't you query that at the time?

I'm not sure what you're saying. Her answer just made a lot of sense to me. Doesn't it to you ?

[gc83uk]

But again, I really don't get what the fuzz is all about. I mean, isn't it only logical that failed extractions have a WAY better regrowth ratio (next to 100%) AND grow back first ?

Yes that great. But your also suggesting the successful ones which we have documented after 1/2 weeks could be ALL failed. That's what the fuss is about.

[Arashi]

Yes that great. But your also suggesting the successful ones which we have documented after 1/2 weeks could be ALL failed. That's what the fuss is about.

Again, isn't it only logical that failed extractions grow back first ? The more tissue that remains, the faster it heals and can grow back. Why would you even doubt that statement ?

[gc83uk]

Again, isn't it only logical that failed extractions grow back first ? The more tissue that remains, the faster it heals and can grow back. Why would you even doubt that statement ?

Man, I've never doubted that.

[Arashi]

Man, I've never doubted that.

Hehe. So what are we exactly debating about then ?

[gc83uk]

Hehe. So what are we exactly debating about then ?

I put the question to you earlier on the lines of, failed extractions grow back within say 2 days and the successful ones in 1 week.

How does that sit with your thinking?