The Ironman Procedure

[Arashi]

What the hell? Your right I don't get it. Simply because if I have 100 extractions in my sample area and ALL 100 are showing regrowth after 1 week (lets pretend), then these extractions according to Arashi are the failed extractions right?

What they say at HASCI is that failed extractions always grow back AND that they grow back first. So, if they extracted 100 hairs and only 15 of them were succesful, then the first 85 hairs that grow back will be those failed extractions and not real regrowth.

[Arashi]

no no, you didn't get it - first he claimed everywhere, that ALL the early regrown hairs in the donor area "are just those regenerated hairs, which were actually just unsuccessful extractions"

Please quote my post where I said this, you Nazi schweinhund

oh, and that "his doctor confirmed him this via email". In other words, she comfirmed him, that her boss is not only fooling you and me, also the whole research community, because he is always talking about "regrowth after 1 week" - right?

You keep suggesting people should mail HASCI when they have question. I kindly asked you to verify my email, because you didn't believe me. Why didnt you email her ? I even gave her your email address, but as usual, you're not interested in facts, because you don't want to hear ANYTHING that is not Gho-positive. I bet that's why you don't want to post pictures of your ugly shithead. Not because it's ugly as hell with all the nasty scars and black ugly spots, we can see that already, but because we all know there were WAY more than 1400 extractions holes.

[gc83uk]

What they say at HASCI is that failed extractions always grow back AND that they grow back first. So, if they extracted 100 hairs and only 15 of them were succesful, then the first 85 hairs that grow back will be those failed extractions and not real regrowth.

OK!

What do you suggest happened in my case, where we found 85% regrowth in 1 week, whats your honest assessment of that?

I personally feel that it's possible that unsuccessful extractions could grow back as quickly as 1 or 2 days and successful extractions your going to need at least 3-5 days to see any of these emerging.

How does that fit with your thinking?

[Arashi]

Namely, just the unsuccessful grafts regenerate indeed (so that patients like you and me think "great!" after 1 week), but instead of, the SUCCESSFUL extractions never grow back. THAT's what he is trying to pretend. But NO, he doesn't address this "intelligent thinking" TO HIS DOCTOR - ask YOU him why ... I already tried this several times ...

You really don't get it, eh. Get your ugly head out of your fat ass for once and TRY to understand that not everyone here swallows everything that Gho states like sweet pie. Some people actually USE their heads for thinking and want to know FACTS. I'm not saying at ALL what you mentioned above. I'm just saying we don't know yet because nobody has good enough details.

[Arashi]

OK!

What do you suggest happened in my case, where we found 85% regrowth in 1 week, whats your honest assessment of that?

My doctor said that different parts of your head usually yield different extraction ratio's. This is because hair on your head grows in different directions in different places. The flatter the hair growth, the harder it is to extract and worse the ratio will be. Hence, if the part that "Nazi Schweinhund" focused on during his anal-ysis, was a difficult part with bad extraction ratio, we just can't say anything. That's why it's important to focus on several part of the head, keep count and in a perfect world, we'd know exactly how many holes were drilled. That's where this useless thread could ACTUALLY become useful, if Nazi Schweinhund wasn't so extremely stupid and would actually care about knowing the truth. But obviously he isn't interested in the truth, he only wants to post Gho positive made-up whishful thinking storylines.

[534623]

Please quote my post where I said this, you Nazi schweinhund

No problem …

Here on haarweb.nl

http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=318570&postcount=25

and her on the baldtruthtalk:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=91778&postcount=51

And you are still doing it here in this thread.

What? I'm a "Nazi scheinhund"?

[gc83uk]

My doctor said that different parts of your head usually yield different extraction ratio's. This is because hair on your head grows in different directions in different places. The flatter the hair growth, the harder it is to extract and worse the ratio will be. Hence, if the part that "Nazi Schweinhund" focused on during his anal-ysis, was a difficult part with bad extraction ratio, we just can't say anything. That's why it's important to focus on several part of the head, keep count and in a perfect world, we'd know exactly how many holes were drilled.

Ha that was a negative assessment if I ever saw one. I'm fairly sure Iron Man has taken multiple photos of his head and even recorded a video showing the extractions from ear to ear.

Iron man if you could upload that to a website such as vimeo.

What do you think of Gho's paper showing regrowth after 1 week?

You had to admit it's unlikely that the regrowth I had after 1 week is ALL or mostly unsuccessful extractions. I had a 2nd area also monitored and it also came over 80%.

[534623]

That's why it's important to focus on several part of the head, keep count and in a perfect world, we'd know exactly how many holes were drilled.

Interesting. And why didn't you do it in your case?
You said in another thread "that you will also document everything - but just for you yourself only".

By the way, can you tell us which "stuff" to get in your country causes such wired psychopathic symptoms you have? Is this stuff very costly? More expensive than a HST procedure?

[gc83uk]

Also she said in your email to you 'within a week' right?

And "These are also often the follicles which during the early removal of the grafts were cut"

Often? Not all then?

Was it Deborah you emailed about this? I'll email her right now about it.

[Arashi]

No problem …

Here on haarweb.nl

http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showpost.php?p=318570&postcount=25

and her on the baldtruthtalk:

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=91778&postcount=51

And you are still doing it here in this thread.

What? I'm a "Nazi scheinhund"?

LOOOOL. What part exactly makes you think I said that ?

[Arashi]

Interesting. And why didn't you do it in your case?

Because nobody ever mentioned anything about failed extractions. I was the first to bring it up here.

[Arashi]

Also she said in your email to you 'within a week' right?

And "These are also often the follicles which during the early removal of the grafts were cut"

Often? Not all then?

Was it Deborah you emailed about this? I'll email her right now about it.

Nope, It was Kristel. You can reach her at: k.vanherwijnen@hasci.com

[Arashi]

Ha that was a negative assessment if I ever saw one. I'm fairly sure Iron Man has taken multiple photos of his head and even recorded a video showing the extractions from ear to ear.

Iron man if you could upload that to a website such as vimeo.

What do you think of Gho's paper showing regrowth after 1 week?

You had to admit it's unlikely that the regrowth I had after 1 week is ALL or mostly unsuccessful extractions. I had a 2nd area also monitored and it also came over 80%.

You even said yourself that you didn't keep count of extraction ratio. So although 80% regrowth seems good, without knowing the actual drill amount we just don't know if it's 50% regrowth, maybe 30% or no regrowth at all.

[534623]

LOOOOL. What part exactly makes you think I said that ?

Because there is no confirmation for your "email post". And why don't you simply ask her AGAIN?
Why should I ask her? I have nothing to do with your doctor - or your pretended "HST procedure".

[gc83uk]

Nope, It was Kristel. You can reach her at: k.vanherwijnen@hasci.com

Ah well I've already emailed Deborah Smaal, she knows her stuff, so I'll post whatever she says here