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And these "certain area or few areas" contain 500 3-hair grafts??
What exactly is YOU QUESTION/PROBLEM at all?
That's exactly the reason why I always recommend you a 10,000 body hair HT with Umar - there you will not have any problems with counting 3-hair grafts at all ...
Let's assume, and we just assume, that in my case they made 2800 drills (and therefore 2800 extraction holes) instead of just the planned 1400 drills for grafts for the recipient site - okay?
If 80% of these 2800 holes REGENERATE - there would be a loss of grafts in the donor area of 560 grafts (20%) - in the donor area.
If the ratio would be 1:1 instead of = 1400 drills, 1400 grafts for the recipient site - there would be an estimated loss of grafts in the donor area of around 280 grafts (20%) - in the donor area.
AND??
I think even in a worst case scenario (560 grafts in the donor area gone forever), I think this would still be a quantum leap just to lose 560 grafts in the donor area, instead of 1400 with traditional FUE!!
And who says that you have an 1:1 ratio with FUE??
Is there really someone who really believes that if a FUE doctor is making 1400 drills in your donor area, you will get 1400 grafts for your recipient area?? pffffff ...
If an FUE doctor is really doing this (or claims he is able to do this), I can guarantee you, that in this case, he implants at least 20% of these 1400 for nothing, because at least 20% of them WILL NOT GROW in the recipient area! In this case, you lost 1400 grafts in the donor area, and in best case, you only got 1100 in the recipient area. Great.
Furthermore, you ONLY pay the graft number you really get in your recipient sites. Where is the problem??
Why can't you guys calculate such ridiculous things yourself??
CONCLUSION
What's really important for HST, is the % of REGENERATION in the donor area - and so it's practially completely irrelevant how many drills were made, or whether or not they were forced to made more drills.Comment
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I think you're missing the point. In my case, when the technician took over, the ratio dropped to about 20:3. That means 85% of the extractions are failed in that area. Hence, even if you noticed 85% of the hairs growing back, that still may mean you have exactly NO regrowth at all.Comment
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It's actually worse than that, she STARTED my procedure which suggests to me that she was supposed to do half of my extractions, my donor could have been in a real mess after this.
Again, I'm trying to be positive, but I wasn't happy being worked on by someone who clearly was inexperienced. If these failed extractions recover then I'll be happy, but if I'm left with scars or lose those follicles I won't be happy at all.Comment
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I'd suggest anyone who's going to the Gho clinic to look at that page and make sure only *technicians* do the extraction ...
The 2 technicians that worked on my head did a good job. The non-technician messed up. Although, IF all failed extractions grow back, it's of course still ok (I guess), although damage to the follicle MAY cause even more difficult extraction next time maybe !?Comment
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Sorry for the stupid question, but WHAT PART OF THIS EXACTLY ...
... don't you understand?
And who should be "somebody else", when nobody really knows A SHIT about
1) what really happened;
2) what's the real problem;
2) and finally, what's completely wrong with you at all.
Why the f?&&&& hell don't you address your questions, brain problems, concerns or crap whatever, to YOUR doctor who treated you??Comment
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By the way, this is (besides a nice call by them about how it's going, immediately after the weekend) what I got today from MY doctor:
This is STANDARD in all HSI clinics!!Dear IM,
Thank you for your e-mail.
I am glad to hear that you survived our treatment.
Besides the scheduled evaluations (1st week, 4th month and 9th month), we also have a 1-day-after-treatment evaluation. The purpose of the evaluation is to check if a client has immediate symptoms after the treatment like pain, bleeding, etc.
Thank you for letting me know that everything went smoothly. Feel free to e-mail me to keep me updated with your progress.
Yours sincerely,
Novia Mozart, M.D.
They always tell every patient "You can ALWAYS call us if you have any questions!"Comment
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LOL. Sometimes I wonder, if we lost the war 80 years ago and we'd all be German like you: would communication and manners like yours be standard ?
But it's no problem. You obviously do not want to add anything useful at all. What was I even thinking by asking ..
Be my guest and keep making photo's like you've done now and show us 'regrowth' like we've seen quite a few times before already without knowing if this really is regrowth or just failed extractions growing back. It doesn't add ANYTHING useful at all but you seem to be enjoying it, so why not.Comment
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Maybe there where indeed just 80?
Anyway, I definitely can't confirm would you "think". I could ask them everytime, EVERY SH'T in the clinic (and almost the whole clinic staff worked for me on the day of my treatment!) - every person always tried the best to answer my questions - and I had LOTS OF QUESTIONS, especially during my procedure:
The girl who extracted my grafts (I say "girl" because I could be the father of almost all "girls" in THIS clinic) has been pretty nervous in the morning, after the hair shaving part, due to my "special photo session" wishes (they even allow you to film everything!), and she didn't even had a problem to tell this (next to me!) my doctor - "He is making me nervous!"
This has been THE moment I knew, that SHE was absolutely PERFECT for such a guy like me with such a "bad behaviour" - especially for the extraction part ...
... because she didn't use "the thing" for pre-anaesthesia of my donor area I actually expected (because I HATE syringes!); instead of, she used 2 different tools for pre-anaesthesia (not "the thing" as Scissorboy, for example, got it!), hmmm, but worked also pretty good (she explained me even the differences) - or let's say - almost as good. Anyway, I survived ...
THIS girl, besides the fact, that she is extremely sweet, is VERY talented; I could HEAR this, and I could even FEEL this. We had a loooong chit-chat during the extraction part, and between lots of other things, she told me, what she really likes most in her job in the clinic - namely, "Doing HST extractions - that's what I like most!".
That's what she really likes, because I could indeed hear and feel this. She told me and explained me alsmost EVERY SH'T what's going on at the moment, or whether there is a problem at the moment and also why and so on - simply everything.
Anyway, here is where SHE ended up (actually, pretty fast too, for my rather complicated case due to my 3 strip scars):
First, this was MY HST-Operating-Theatre for my treatment ...
In this photo, you can already see TWO petri-dishes with my grafts, immediatelly after the extraction part. The 2 dishes in detail ...
In the left dish, there are 2x 500 HST grafts + the section with the star in it with the "unsuccessful grafts".
In the right dish, there are the remaining 400 HST grafts - these 400 grafts are the result of the last extractions of the whole extraction part, because the sections of the dishes (1, 2 and *) just work according to the so-called "First in, First out-principle"
From the whole extraction part until the implantation part, NOBODY touches the dishes! They do not even move them - not even 1 mm! With a good reason ...
That's correct, they work with 2 click-pedals - 1 for the successful extractions, and 1 for the unsuccessful extractions + the successful extractions (aka "all holes").
And now tell me, how many unsuccessful extractions can you see in my "star-section"?
Try to estimate ...
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i find it a bit strange that IM didnt ask about graft breakdown, normaly he is all about details
if 2.5 hairs per graft is an average, it means some guys get more than that,
the best way is to get someone who is willing to go for 50 graft test on slick bald area of scalp, think somebody from forum wanted to do test but Gho would let him
That would definately be final proof, and i would push Gho to give that person 40 3s and 10 doubles...monitor both recepient+donor
sound like a good idea?Comment
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Oh, damn - I didn't see this post before I made my previous post. Hmmm, can't delete it anymore. But I'm able to delete YOU once and for all ...LOL. Sometimes I wonder, if we lost the war 80 years ago and we'd all be German like you: would communication and manners like yours be standard ?
But it's no problem. You obviously do not want to add anything useful at all. What was I even thinking by asking ..
Be my guest and keep making photo's like you've done now and show us 'regrowth' like we've seen quite a few times before already without knowing if this really is regrowth or just failed extractions growing back. It doesn't add ANYTHING useful at all but you seem to be enjoying it, so why not.
It's simple:
All the other interested users will not see or hear something anymore about my procedure/details etc, until such a REAL useless idiot like you is banned from this site once and for all. Trust me, I wouldn't even have a problem, when the contrary would happen. Seriously ...Comment
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didnt know iron man was german,
heard dutch n germans dont get along v well but IM its not nice to call someone 'real useless idiot'... love the phrase but its not appropriate, keep it constructive and back to topic.
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