The Ironman Procedure

[534623]

Regarding proof...

On the Nigam issue, I completely agree, something is definitely wrong there, however I'm enjoying seeing him squirm. If he proves us all wrong though then great, but on his current performance it looks grim.

Concerning “hair loss” – where is the difference between a guy like Dr. Nigam and topcat or ejj or you or me?

Basically, there is none. Again, at least concerning hair loss.
All struggle –more or less- with hair loss and Dr. Nigam has the same problem like even many medical doctors or even hair transplant doctors out there. Around 15 years ago, I did exactly the same what Dr. Nigam is doing since about 15 MONTH (besides the fact, that I didn’t have so many legit sources than today) - I had exactly the same “behaviour” than Dr. Nigam today; being immediately excited about things as soon as I could hear or read “hair cloning” or “hair multiplication” or “rejuvenation of lost hair” etc etc, without really, I mean REALLY knowing how difficult all such medical approaches can be in reality, to bring them to fruition and how long it will take. If a real expert is reading what a guy like Dr. Nigam posts on hair loss forums, such a guy will agree with me, that this guy has actually NO CLUE what he is (completely confused) talking about. He is just talking about things which he snapped up on hair loss forums the past 12 month or so. That’s all. But again, about 15 years ago – I wasn’t that different, at least in my mind. Am I different today? Today, everything that counts for me is “show me the proof, show me the science” – and I will tell you what really works or not, and even from where you have stolen “your science”.

[topcat]

Hey Ironman do you even know who the doctor is that is performing a procedure on your head? And if so how long has he been doing it?

[gc83uk]

Hey Ironman do you even know who the doctor is that is performing a procedure on your head? And if so how long has he been doing it?

A monkey could do Gho's procedure, it's that easy. That's what makes it so great.

[gc83uk]

Concerning “hair loss” – where is the difference between a guy like Dr. Nigam and topcat or ejj or you or me?

Basically, there is none. Again, at least concerning hair loss.
All struggle –more or less- with hair loss and Dr. Nigam has the same problem like even many medical doctors or even hair transplant doctors out there. Around 15 years ago, I did exactly the same what Dr. Nigam is doing since about 15 MONTH (besides the fact, that I didn’t have so many legit sources than today) - I had exactly the same “behaviour” than Dr. Nigam today; being immediately excited about things as soon as I could hear or read “hair cloning” or “hair multiplication” or “rejuvenation of lost hair” etc etc, without really, I mean REALLY knowing how difficult all such medical approaches can be in reality, to bring them to fruition and how long it will take. If a real expert is reading what a guy like Dr. Nigam posts on hair loss forums, such a guy will agree with me, that this guy has actually NO CLUE what he is (completely confused) talking about. He is just talking about things which he snapped up on hair loss forums the past 12 month or so. That’s all. But again, about 15 years ago – I wasn’t that different, at least in my mind. Am I different today? Today, everything that counts for me is “show me the proof, show me the science” – and I will tell you what really works or not, and even from where you have stolen “your science”.

You have to understand I completely agree on the above comments regarding Nigam. If you see me engaging or asking questions to Nigam it's simply to: a) blow his cover asap or b) find something unexpected.
I'm 99.99 sure the answer is (a).

Let me ask you something Iron Man. A genuine question. In the next few years, lets say 2020 to be certain. What treatment besides Gho's current HST will be available and who do you think will be leading the way?

I know you don't have a crystal ball, but after "15 years" you surely have an idea?

[topcat]

A monkey........really, that's amazing. Well you gentlemen certainly sound like you know what you are talking about so I guess I will just take your word for it.

[gc83uk]

A monkey........really, that's amazing. Well you gentlemen certainly sound like you know what you are talking about so I guess I will just take your word for it.

Your sounding bitter.

I have had two procedures from Gho so I should know what I'm talking about right?

They don't even where the goggles, basically doing it blind. It's mostly down to the tools used.

[sp8rky]

Your sounding bitter.

I have had two procedures from Gho so I should know what I'm talking about right?

They don't even where the goggles, basically doing it blind. It's mostly down to the tools used.

They don't use magnification? f that then!

[gc83uk]

They don't use magnification? f that then!

Yes that's Correct! Why the thumbs down?

[topcat]

No GC I'm not bitter........lol..........just giving back IM a little of his own medicine and quite frankly I have been nice in comparison. I hope it all works out for you no one deserves a bad result.

[gc83uk]

Fair enough Top Cat, I must have missed your sentiment.

And yes I totally agree nobody deserves a bad result, I've read about your case and you've really been through it all. Hats off to you.

[534623]

Fair enough Top Cat, I must have missed your sentiment.

And yes I totally agree nobody deserves a bad result, I've read about your case and you've really been through it all. Hats off to you.

THAT is a point, I simply can’t understand:
As mentioned in my previous posts, concerning hair loss, basically, nobody is different. All guys in this thread (including me) struggle more or less with hair loss – or with LACK OF DONOR HAIR.

Fortunately, I still have a plenty of real scalp donor hair, BUT unfortunately, not as much anymore as I initially had - due to the “golden HT standard” in the 90s. Same problem as –for example- singer Gerard Joling. Do you really think that guys like Joling or me never ever got “good offers” from traditional hair transplant clinics during the past 10 years or so?

Traditional FUE?
I assume that Mr. Joling had the same thoughts in the past as I had them; namely, it DOESN’T MAKE SENSE doing a HT in general, not even a normal “FUE” procedure! It simply makes no sense - especially in SUCH cases!

For example:
With normal FUE, I still could get (besides FUE scarring etc) around 3000-4000 grafts from my donor area, without too noticeable thinning – best case!!
And afterwards – WHAT?
Well, now please explain me, what could I do AFTERWARDS? The game would be OVER once and for all, in case, when I still need graft numbers beyond the already extracted grafts. So, what? I’m talking about an “unfinished business” on one hand, and on the other hand, STILL HAVING OPTIONS (2nd, 3rd procedure etc) without scarring etc afterwards with HST. An option, which has been worth waiting for somewhat longer - instead of buying an “irreparably unfinished business” with risk. That’s the point.
Sure, I already could have more hair on my head due to traditional HT’s (like topcat), but would I be delighted? I guess – NO.
Will I be delighted in April?
In advance, what ever happens (a good or bad result), definitely NO – but I still will have OPTIONS thereafter …

Oh, before I forget: Even it would be a bad result – there is, in addition, still clause 7 in Dr. Gho’s contract. And clause 7 says … at least it has nothing to do with my “bad behaviour”.

[didi]

That was funny pic and comment





3000-4000 grafts avail


How many do you think you'll have with HST, What did hasci say

[gc83uk]

THAT is a point, I simply can’t understand:
As mentioned in my previous posts, concerning hair loss, basically, nobody is different. All guys in this thread (including me) struggle more or less with hair loss – or with LACK OF DONOR HAIR.

Fortunately, I still have a plenty of real scalp donor hair, BUT unfortunately, not as much anymore as I initially had - due to the “golden HT standard” in the 90s. Same problem as –for example- singer Gerard Joling. Do you really think that guys like Joling or me never ever got “good offers” from traditional hair transplant clinics during the past 10 years or so?

Traditional FUE?
I assume that Mr. Joling had the same thoughts in the past as I had them; namely, it DOESN’T MAKE SENSE doing a HT in general, not even a normal “FUE” procedure! It simply makes no sense - especially in SUCH cases!

For example:
With normal FUE, I still could get (besides FUE scarring etc) around 3000-4000 grafts from my donor area, without too noticeable thinning – best case!!
And afterwards – WHAT?
Well, now please explain me, what could I do AFTERWARDS? The game would be OVER once and for all, in case, when I still need graft numbers beyond the already extracted grafts. So, what? I’m talking about an “unfinished business” on one hand, and on the other hand, STILL HAVING OPTIONS (2nd, 3rd procedure etc) without scarring etc afterwards with HST. An option, which has been worth waiting for somewhat longer - instead of buying an “irreparably unfinished business” with risk. That’s the point.
Sure, I already could have more hair on my head due to traditional HT’s (like topcat), but would I be delighted? I guess – NO.
Will I be delighted in April?
In advance, what ever happens (a good or bad result), definitely NO – but I still will have OPTIONS thereafter …

Oh, before I forget: Even it would be a bad result – there is, in addition, still clause 7 in Dr. Gho’s contract. And clause 7 says … at least it has nothing to do with my “bad behaviour”.

lol stop pretending your HST is in April, it's clearly next week

[didi]

IM
tell us what date is your procedure so we can all gather together on this forum and pray for you, we will pray for 2000 healthy unsplit grafts.

Dont worry is it doesnt work theres always FREE Dr Nigams HM option in his regenerative state of the art lab (aka pizza oven)

[ccmethinning]

IM's HST could be one of the biggest events in the hairloss community. Because of your skills and amazing understanding of the procedure, I sincerely hope you document your case.