NeedHairASAP

[534623]

These discussions would be much more productive without him. I think this is an important topic, but it's like dealing with a child.

Yup, that's the reason why everyone appreciates your posts - they are all fact based and productive. Absolutely. I could gather tons of worthful information just from YOUR posts! Now I know exactly how the HST procedure is working and what I can expect from it. Thank you so much!

[Delphi]

Ok. If you are so happy and convinced about the procedure, great! Go ahead and do it, and stop wasting time on these depressive hair loss forums. As I stated earlier, I hope everything works out well for you. I don`t have the energy right now to argue any further about this. It`s not productive. I have stated my opinion now. You know were I stand, and we all know were you stand.

Good luck!

I really wish Ironman would go away and live his life too. These discussions would be much more productive without him. I think this is an important topic, but it's like dealing with a child. Even when you try to show him some respect he just continues to act out. He just can't help it, and it makes every discussion so ugly and unproductive.

[hairysituation]

Which one (of the "most"), and what do you know about them?

Sorry, but just "blah blah blah" doesn't help anyone.

Ok. If you are so happy and convinced about the procedure, great! Go ahead and do it, and stop wasting time on these depressive hair loss forums. As I stated earlier, I hope everything works out well for you. I don`t have the energy right now to argue any further about this. It`s not productive. I have stated my opinion now. You know were I stand, and we all know were you stand.

Good luck!

[topcat]

Hey Ironman are you going for complete hair restoration or just partial?

Do you know how many procedures you will be having and the doctors name? Is it one of the new guys or one that has been there for 1 year? Go for the guy with 1 year experience, more experience the better.

Looking forward to your updates in April. Can you post some before pictures now so we can see where you are at?

[534623]

Sneijder actually looks good but he is buzzed,
which we all know is good for sparser hair.

Yup, especially in the sunlight - or in a football stadium, where they always use, you know, candlelight for the lightning ...

[ccmethinning]

I challenge all those complaining to find a graft by graft comparison that proves that Gho's procedure is inferior.

For example, find a 1500 graft FUE that you think is better than a 1500 graft HST on someone with similar norwood levels and hair characteristics.

Lets compare apple to apples, not apples (1500 grafts HST) to oranges (6000 grafts FUT).

[534623]

In 1 office visit, for under $2000, and have it all grown in 1 month that it is not a viable treatment.

1 month?? Are you crazy or what??? The hairs have to grow in OVER NIGHT!!

[ccmethinning]

Most people on this forum seem to think that unless a treatment can turn this:



into this




In 1 office visit, for under $2000, and have it all grown in 1 month that it is not a viable treatment.

[534623]

See the photos on the official website, which is a marketing tool meant to make the procedure look good. The results are cosmetically mediocre (do not take my word for it, look for yourself).

Watch this video ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xapYyuI0lVA

... and you will know (34:20) that they are NOT "maketing tool meant" - in fact, they are just meant for such guys like you, who are mostly brainwashed by the many marketing tool meant before/after photos on hair loss forums.

btw - in this video, Dr. Gho is asking Spencer Kobren the same question: "To WHICH patient result do you/their refer?" And what do you know about this patients in general? So you have to ask Spencer Kobren about the answers.

[25 going on 65]

One thing though--earlier I said I didn't know if he was wearing concealer in the 16 month video. At this point I will say he is not, at least not in the thinner looking parts of the transplanted areas.

[25 going on 65]

Which one (of the "most"), and what do you know about them?

Sorry, but just "blah blah blah" doesn't help anyone.

See the photos on the official website, which is a marketing tool meant to make the procedure look good. The results are cosmetically mediocre (do not take my word for it, look for yourself). Quite sparse despite that the hair is styled to give more coverage in the "after" photos and expose more scalp in the "before" photos.
I watched the scissorboy 16 month video again and his right side looks thin. Left side looks better but not dense, although it is hard to judge for certain due to reasons I mentioned before. (To be fair Gho does not advertise as a dense packing clinic to my knowledge).
Joling looks thin.
Sneijder actually looks good but he is buzzed, which we all know is good for sparser hair. What does it look like grown out? hairysituation's comment about looking like "pubic hair" might be an overstatement but I see where he is coming from on the website photos.
If there are particular results you want me to look at, I will

[534623]

I hope you document your case online, because if any patient can provide conclusive evidence, it's you.

Sure, but just for myself and for my own further (availaible graft)calculations on one hand, real comparison studies on the other hand. Otherwise I completely agree with ...

To the annoying skeptics;

If I were to get Gho's HST procedure, what the f**k makes any of you think i'd shave my head just to satisfy you losers when I've spent thousands of dollars to ENJOY having hair?

Quit bitching, shut up and get the procedure yourself if your that desperate for an answer that satisfies your curiosity.

[JJJJrS]

How many OBJECTIVE and INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE "case studies" (in general in this "industry") could you see during the past 20 years??

Can you post us some examples? thanks.

I was mainly referring to before and after results posted online, so we can evaluate HASCI's artistic ability, not necessarily scientific, independently verifiable case studies in the sense that you're thinking of. Obviously that doesn't exist with FUT and FUE either, anymore than Gho's peer-reviewed paper.

I personally haven't seen enough before and after results at this point to convince me to go down the HST path yet, but I'm sure more results will be posted. It seems that you feel otherwise and I wish you the best with your procedure. I hope you document your case online, because if any patient can provide conclusive evidence, it's you.

[534623]

In general, we just haven't seen enough case studies to really make a concrete conclusion.

How many OBJECTIVE and INDEPENDENTLY VERIFIABLE "case studies" (in general in this "industry") could you see during the past 20 years??

Can you post us some examples? thanks.

[JJJJrS]

Facts? As you know, facts are not always desirable - and sometimes they are very risky (if you post them). Anyway, I very often tried (mostly just for myself) to COMPARE HST results with similar conventional ("show case") hair transplants ... like in this case 1400 HST grafts versus a 2550 (!) "golden standard" hair transplant. Come on guys, don't tell me sh't ...

There are plenty of results from IAHRS surgeons that I would consider poor and we can spend pages and pages listing them. That goes for all hair transplant doctors. Some of them don't have a single result I'd consider impressive. In comparison, Wesley Sneijder's result might be the best I've seen when you consider the small number of grafts that were used (I believe it was 1.5k) and the immediate recovery time (hair was looking good after a month). That doesn't mean every patient from Gho is going to get a result like Sneijder. If we look at the HASCI website, there are quite a few mediocre, underwhelming results. I also hope we can get more conclusive information on Joling's results. In general, we just haven't seen enough case studies to really make a concrete conclusion.