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  • hairysituation
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    Originally posted by gc83uk
    How does someone go about measuring the thickness of the transplanted hair versus the thickness of the normal hair?

    I'd like to do it to put this argument to rest.
    Gc, you really seems genuinely interested in finding the truth. I appriciate that. You are also a real patient. A proactive patient as well. Unfortunately, I don`t know the methodology for measurement of hair qualities. But do you know of any independent dermotologists you can speak to? Maybe (most likely) they know.

    I wish you best of luck!

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  • Delphi
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    Originally posted by 534623
    So what?
    Well, this website looks pretty legit (apart from some spelling errors) http://www.ghoclinic.cz Has anyone else heard anything about it or is willing to share some information? I would hope the prices are lower than they are in the other EU countries since Czech Republic isnt using Euros. Lets see what information we


    Either you can't read or you're unable to watch videos or you're simply ... forget it ...

    "So what?" ... funny ... e.g. Scissorboy bought and documented a "not perfected" procedure. lol
    If I'm being honest, those results don't look too good. If he was in any kind of decent lighting you would see right through from the top down and he admits that he had uneven growth. He also has course, dense hair. These results would have been a huge disappointment for someone with finer hair.

    What you can see actually looks a little stalky and unnatural compared to the really good hair transplants we see being posted. Sorry, just being honest. I love the concept , but it's just not perfected yet and from the looks of things it can't ever be performed in North America anyway.

    @hairysituation, I agree about Ironman, but I do feel for him. He want's this to be real so badly that he can't be logical about it.

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  • gc83uk
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    How does someone go about measuring the thickness of the transplanted hair versus the thickness of the normal hair?

    I'd like to do it to put this argument to rest.

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  • The Alchemist
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Really? You posted so far really A LOT - but nowhere any PROOF for all your ridiculously claims. And as long you can't PROVE what you claim - all your comments are completely worthless - in fact, just R I D I C U L O U S L Y.
    He posted pics of Joling sans any concealer. The result look thin, wispy and completely see through. That's his proof - and it is something that warrants consideration.

    Scissor boy was a NW1.5 -2 to begin with. The video he shot is blurry, poorly lit and you can still make out his transplanted region.

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  • hairysituation
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Really? You posted so far really A LOT - but nowhere any PROOF for all your ridiculously claims. And as long you can't PROVE what you claim - all your comments are completely worthless - in fact, just R I D I C U L O U S L Y.
    Can you come up with a proof which shows a dense looking result from Dr. Gho? I don`t have to come up with a conclusive proof which back my claims. I have my observations and conversations wth Gho and HASCI as personal proofs. And Gho is the one who is making commercial claims, so HE is the one who should prove himself. I also provided pictures of Gerard Joling which clearly showed a wispy and thin looking recipent area.

    His publications are the worthless once. His findings dosen`t match what we see in real life. empiricism, my friend. empiricism is my proof.

    As you know in logic, you dosen`t prove a negative. For example, you does not prove god`s existence by saying "prove that god dosen`t exists.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by hairysituation
    However, I think it`s pretty conclusive that the procedure isn`t as good as advertised.
    Really? You posted so far really A LOT - but nowhere any PROOF for all your ridiculously claims. And as long you can't PROVE what you claim - all your comments are completely worthless - in fact, just R I D I C U L O U S L Y.

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  • hairysituation
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    Originally posted by Delphi
    Sounds a little hypocritical to me Ironman, don't you think? You state things as fact all the time, but you have never had a HST procedure. Very strange logic.

    Hairysituation made a decision based on research, in-depth conversations with Dr. Gho and the clinic, and came to the conclusion that the procedure is not all what it is cracked up to be. That's his choice. I agree that there has never been a documented case of really good, fully grown out recipient results, but this is not to say the Gho's procedure is bullshit, just not perfected yet. So what?
    Gho's procedure, might not be ready for "prime time" yet, but it will probably get there. If you're a person who wants to shave really close and just add some hair in the hairline, it could be a perfect solution. It would not be worth the time, expense, and travel to me, but we all have to decide for ourselves.
    Fair comment delphi! I can`t say for sure that the procedure is pure bullshit, but that`s my opinion. However, I think it`s pretty conclusive that the procedure isn`t as good as advertised. I wish it was. It would made my life so much more easier.

    Regarding Iron_man, he has a selective logic. He isn`t interested in truth. He`s a repair patient who maybe look at Gerard as an role model. Gerard was a repair patient himself. I think Iron_man really need this procedure to work, but he also know deep down that it dosen`t. Just an personal observation, not a scientific fact.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by Delphi
    I agree that there has never been a documented case of really good, fully grown out recipient results, but this is not to say the Gho's procedure is bullshit, just not perfected yet.

    So what?
    So what?
    Well, this website looks pretty legit (apart from some spelling errors) http://www.ghoclinic.cz Has anyone else heard anything about it or is willing to share some information? I would hope the prices are lower than they are in the other EU countries since Czech Republic isnt using Euros. Lets see what information we


    Either you can't read or you're unable to watch videos or you're simply ... forget it ...

    "So what?" ... funny ... e.g. Scissorboy bought and documented a "not perfected" procedure. lol

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  • Delphi
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Oh, again, I can see what you're talking about - namely, about fact based things. And everything without ever having a HST procedure yourself. Not bad.
    Sounds a little hypocritical to me Ironman, don't you think? You state things as fact all the time, but you have never had a HST procedure. Very strange logic.

    Hairysituation made a decision based on research, in-depth conversations with Dr. Gho and the clinic, and came to the conclusion that the procedure is not all what it is cracked up to be. That's his choice. I agree that there has never been a documented case of really good, fully grown out recipient results, but this is not to say the Gho's procedure is bullshit, just not perfected yet. So what?
    Gho's procedure, might not be ready for "prime time" yet, but it will probably get there. If you're a person who wants to shave really close and just add some hair in the hairline, it could be a perfect solution. It would not be worth the time, expense, and travel to me, but we all have to decide for ourselves.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by 25 going on 65
    I don't know if the whole procedure is bullshit, but so far it is not cosmetically viable.
    Could you please SHOW us the "so far" part, so that we can get a better view about your "so far" part. Thanks.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by hairysituation
    You`re a psycho. Get the procedure done yourself, and you will see what I`m talking about.
    Oh, again, I can see what you're talking about - namely, about fact based things. And everything without ever having a HST procedure yourself. Not bad.

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  • hairysituation
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    Originally posted by 534623
    No, not at all! Or should I ?

    So, you shouldn't worry - everyone is taking you completely serious, because everything you say is completely "fact based".
    You`re a psycho. Get the procedure done yourself, and you will see what I`m talking about. All the Gho-patients aren`t happy. They never post their finasl result. Sure, they are just so happy with their new hair that they simply don`t have time for it.

    If constant 80% regeneration actually was true, and the hair remained with the same characteriztics, then it should be possible to get approximately 30 000 grafts. Or at least 20 000.

    Yeah, but instead of make a rational reasoning, let`s pick up on details. Way to go Iron_Man. Way to go.

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  • 25 going on 65
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    Originally posted by hairysituation
    Btw! They also kept on repeating: "We believe that a natural density is more important than a high density" I therafter said that I naturally have a high density, so why wouldn`t it be natural? They didn`t have a good answer for that.

    The whole thing just screemed incompontence and failure. In addition a pathetic rationalization by calling it "natural density". If they worked as advertised, they would be a practical cure. 30 000 grafts with normal hair characteristics, with Dr. Rahal`s dense packing skills. Are you kidding me? Even I would be happy with that. But unfortunately, their product is pure bullshit.

    And Iron_Man, don`t bring up the marco case from hairsite to dissprove Rahal as a surgon. Every good doctor have a few bad cases.
    I don't know if the whole procedure is bullshit, but so far it is not cosmetically viable.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by topcat

    At the moment tattooing seems to be gaining steam and HM seems to be losing steam.
    Sure, hair tattooing - a dream come true for "hair losers" ...

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by hairysituation
    30 000 grafts with normal hair characteristics, with Dr. Rahal`s dense packing skills.
    Are you kidding me?
    No, not at all! Or should I ?

    So, you shouldn't worry - everyone is taking you completely serious, because everything you say is completely "fact based".

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