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[didi]

garethbale,

you made a few good points in your post, it seems like they are not 100% in the procedure, thats my feeling, i wish im wrong but more than a year ago Gho was talking abt army of willing doctors that are lining up to learn hst and yet and a half onwards we havent seen single clinic open?? Where are all these doctors



The Institute

Hair Science Institute (HSI) has clinics in Amsterdam, Maastricht, London and Vienna, and will soon be opening clinics in countries outside of Europe.




Yet he is refusing to train docs like dr Cole,hrmm
nothing wrong with showing testimonial but when i think that his waiting list is 6 months long then he shd be able to come up with more photographic evidence and put it online,

i wanna it to work but when i sense something isnt right ill call them out on it,
hasci comes accross as very secretive and not willing to share but on the other hand they wanna train docs for $50k, its baffles me that noone got trained since they initially set up 4 clinics about 4 years ago or so..

[garethbale]

I don't know an awful lot about Gho or his procedure, but I just feel the whole thing seems to be shrouded in secrecy. If their procedure does allow for hair regeneration, why can't they simply provide photos showing this on their website. When I asked about the lack of photographic evidence, I was told that the client and HASCI sign a document that states that photos may only be seen 9 months afterward between the clinic and the patient. Presumably if donor regenerates then why must this be the case.

The whole thing sounds really dodgy...its almost as if they're still not totally confident in their procedure and testing the waters. If this really can reuse hairs, this should be the best thing since sliced bread. IMO, Gho is able to take a small part of the follicle, but then all he can transplant is the same thing...a thin hair. I believe this is why the results he posts seem to be quite thin (i.e.e density) (eg Sneijder, Joling)

[534623]

I agree with you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you providing your testimonial for prospective patients. That's not my concern. I don't want to have an argument, I just stated my opinion concerning Ironman's photographic "proof" being used to sell procedures.

Could you please repeat the bold part IN DETAIL again? I mean, your CONCERNS more specific, please.

[534623]

the question is:

True or untrue?

I mentioned (just in a spontaneous manner) "hair transplant industry" - right?

The following article (January 2012) is such a typical article from the hair transplant industry:

http://www.ishrs.org/articles/follicular-unit-extraction-fue-manual-and-powered-device-assisted.htm

This (new) article ...

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/1809/07_ltr/12_12-00164/article.html

... is about the same affair - just other authors.

So where is the difference - especially if you check out the "References" of both articles?

I mean, we are talking here about "FACT BASED" things - right?

[Delphi]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing prospective customers a testimonial, which is pretty much what it was. I should know as I wrote the email a few weeks back advising them to take a look at the photos.

I agree with you. There is absolutely nothing wrong with you providing your testimonial for prospective patients. That's not my concern. I don't want to have an argument, I just stated my opinion concerning Ironman's photographic "proof" being used to sell procedures.

[534623]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing prospective customers a testimonial ...

Correct...

[gc83uk]

I'm not comfortable with Gho's staff showing a prospective patient a thread from a hair loss forum in an attempt to sell the procedure. In fact , I find this highly unprofessional which puts to question why they wouldn't have better documentation of the success of their procedure than Ironman's illustrations on a patent's set of photos. There something not quit right about this.

It's one thing to point to praise on the internet, but quit another to use these pictures as evidence that the procedure is effective. I'm glad that poster on the other site brought this up.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with showing prospective customers a testimonial, which is pretty much what it was. I should know as I wrote the email a few weeks back advising them to take a look at the photos.

[534623]

It's one thing to point to praise on the internet, but quit another to use these pictures as evidence that the procedure is effective. I'm glad that poster on the other site brought this up.

Are you able to prove (link to this post) your claims?
I doubt that - because so far you couldn't prove ZILCH ZERO NADA (not even a mouse fart) of all your claims within this thread.

[Delphi]

I'm not comfortable with Gho's staff showing a prospective patient a thread from a hair loss forum in an attempt to sell the procedure. In fact , I find this highly unprofessional which puts to question why they wouldn't have better documentation of the success of their procedure than Ironman's illustrations on a patent's set of photos. There something not quit right about this.

It's one thing to point to praise on the internet, but quit another to use these pictures as evidence that the procedure is effective. I'm glad that poster on the other site brought this up.

[gc83uk]

Iron man, if anyone can do this it would be you, I don't have the patience.

I think you'd have a tough job anyway because the clarity of the earlier image isn't as clear as the later images. I would be interested to see if you could do it though.

By the way, I read on a Swedish forum that a patient was in Maastrict for a consultation recently and after speaking to Gho at length, he was then chatting with some of the other hasci staff/technicians.... The techs were showing the prospective patient an email from a 'happy customer' (this was me) and they were showing the patient the documented thread which you made at hairsite showing the regrowth.

So it seems the Hasci staff are using those photos with the green and blue circles! You can read all that on a forum here http://www.lookgood.se/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=43318


Also take a look at http://www.recuperarelpelo.es/foro/v...ic.php?t=42654
You reckon that is Spanishdude?

[534623]

If your donor is limited and you have unlimited funds then Dr Gho is a no-brainer for most people I would think!

I have something more interesting for you …


In fact, I’m talking about THIS –documented- photo (day 2 after having your 2nd HST procedure),
and THIS –undocumented- photo (photo1, day 12 after having your 1st HST procedure),
which I have just digged out again.

Anyway, is there someone who is able to document gc’s original photo of his 1st HST procedure?

This means 1)
to find the EXACT same observation area as in the photo on the left (2nd procedure),
as well as 2)
encircling of all 53 already documented/observed extraction sites/follicular units?

In fact, normally EVERYONE who has installed any picture processing program (photoshop etc) on his computer is able to do this.

Anyway, show me YOUR results – and maybe I will show you guys my result … but I would rather prefer to see YOUR work. With the small pics above, I think I could already give you at least “a hint” where you should find the (already documented) observation area in the other/old photo (1st HST). At least, it shows the area where I "assume" the observation area.

So, what’s the intention in general? What exactly are we trying to find out?
Are we able to find out something really interesting?

[gutted]

for those on the gho procedure - msm and vitc may help with donor regeneration. there was a user who wanted to know what this was in a previous thread, i think it was the user neversaynever.

it also helps with old/new donor scars, they soften out over time.

[aim4hair]

After the transplanted hair started to grow and scabs fall (9 days post op) and before the transplanted hair started to fall (not all of them fell btw but most) i was really satisfied with the look (specially the hairline they gave me), so if all the hair grow back again i will be satisfied, and actually i was told that when the hair grow again it will be thicker and stronger which will give me even a better result than the one right post HT.
BTW, i always have my hair buzzed (wesley sneijder style) and that's why lack of scarring was one of the most important factors for me...
It's a waiting game for me now, but to be honest, it puts me on ease knowing that if things go wrong (god forbid) i won't be a prisoner of scars and i can just shave it off with a clipper as i have been doing for the last few years.

[hairysituation]

Man why do you think i would hide it if im unsatisfied with the final result ?
My experience is really great so far from the ease of surgery, amazing recovery time and lack of scaring or any evidence of an HT in both the recipient and donor area...
But rest assure that if the final result is not satisfactory, i'll be saying it out loud to everybody, i say it like it is, after all it's my head and i won't be advertising something i paid for and turned out to be a disappointment ...

Good to know, man! Well, the potential dissapoitment is very related to your expactations. What kind of results do you expect?
I`m glad that you had a satisfactory experience so far!

[aim4hair]

Can you promise to post the final result, even if you are unsatisfied with the outcome? I can imagine it`s hard to do it, but it would really helps other consumers, and you will at least not have bad scarring.

Good luck to you!

Man why do you think i would hide it if im unsatisfied with the final result ?
My experience is really great so far from the ease of surgery, amazing recovery time and lack of scaring or any evidence of an HT in both the recipient and donor area...
But rest assure that if the final result is not satisfactory, i'll be saying it out loud to everybody, i say it like it is, after all it's my head and i won't be advertising something i paid for and turned out to be a disappointment ...