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[hairysituation]

Sorry, I can't see not 1 photo!!

The only "significant difference" I can at least READ, is the difference between 2400 grafts (spreadlocks) and 1300 grafts (ScissorBoy).

And what do you know about Scissorboy's "awesome hair charactheritics"?
The only awesome charactheristic you can see is Scissorboy's dark, black hair - that's all.

Edit:
Now I can see the photos - should I interpret them?

Fair enough. Here is his pictures.

But the treated area was also much larger in Spreadlocks´case.
I was refering to Scissorboy´s density, and his curly hair. The cosmetic difference is significant and undeniable.

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Edit:
Now I can see the photos - should I interpret them?

Ohh man, PLEASE say simply - NO! Please!!

[didi]

2400 fue vs 1300hst grafts


its almost a double amount, how can you compare these 2 cases


graft for graft hst n fue are on par,

perhaps hsts that look thin are due to bad hair characteristics,

[hairysituation]

Ohh man, PLEASE say simply - NO! Please!!

By all means, interpret the results.

[534623]

But the treated area was also much larger in Spreadlocks´case.

Could you ever see a graft placement photo? I guess - no.

1st. It really is the little things that matter. [indeed] I used to style my hair in a way to hide the bald spots and cover it in hairspray to hold it in the right place. Now I obviously do not need to do this anymore so I no longer shy away from the wind or drizzling rain.
[...]
(Due to so much hairspray).

And what styling or action did he use in the after photos to hide the transplanted areas (=biggest problem zones)?

[hairysituation]

Could you ever see a graft placement photo? I guess - no.



And what styling or action did he use in the after photos to hide the transplanted areas (=biggest problem zones)?

Yes, if you just look at the second link I provided, you will see the graft placement.

I don´t know how to answer your second question. Just tell me were you are going with this.

[534623]

Yes, if you just look at the second link I provided, you will see the graft placement.

Ahh, okay. Thanks. And?

The treated area is indeed much larger in Spreadlock's case. Yeah - and?
Now I'm even able to count the grafts in the much larger area (area besides the temples) - how many grafts can you count there (estimated)?

[534623]

I don´t know how to answer your second question. Just tell me were you are going with this.

My 2nd question actually wasn't a question - it was rather just an observation. In other words, Spreadlock's after photos doesn't tell a viewer much about the REAL HT outcome. His photos tell a viewer just how nice he can style hairs - that's all. No sh't and no joke.

Anyway, this is NOT so with Scissorboy's result ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tWm4qAj-9Q

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Anyway, this is NOT so with Scissorboy's result ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tWm4qAj-9Q

btw - why don't you google "Scissor boy final results!" - because nobody is interested to explain each and every detail (including photos) over and over again. Maybe you'll find some more comparison photos concerning this topic:

spoken by an completely unknown in this industry:

"And a lot of the guys, including the celebrities that he is doing surgery on, when you see them in real world situations, when they are not, you know, prepared to be on camera, uhhh, their hairlines look OK, but, you know, very thin for someone who went through a procedure. Usually when a 2000 graft procedure from a traditional strip or a good FUE surgeon, you are gonna see a more substantial result. At least from what I’ve seen, ..."

Interestingly, I could see so far exactly the contrary ...

[hairysituation]

Ok. I don´t have time or energy to discuss every single detail. Neither am I able to or have time to estimate/count grafts. I just pointing out that Sperlocks´results look fuller than Scissorboy´s. Additonally, I emphasized that the treated area was larger in Sperlocks´case. Therefore, I think the graft-count differences was not a valid argument.

As for reasons I explained earlier, I´m resigning from this discussion. I just hope that "didi" dosen´t rush into anything, and has a balanced view regarding HST.

[didi]

http://staging2.usmedia.nl/advance-consulting/web/portfolio/hair-stemcell-transplantation-clinic-in-jakarta

General information

Project location:Jakarta, Indonesia

Consortium:Hair Science Institute BV and PT Akurat Intan Mayda

Project Budget:€ 1,175,260

External financing:PSI

Project period:From July 2012 to January 2015



Applicant Hair Science Institute BV (HASCI) has developed a patented Hair Stemcell Transplantation (HST) technique. Compared to conventional hair removal/transplantation techniques, it yields better results in terms of improved hair generation, less or no visible scars left, improved hair sustainability effects and improved treatment efficiency and patient comfort. This technique is used exclusively in HASCI’s clinics in Europe.

Together with local medical partner AIM, HASCI intends to set up a hair transplantation clinic in Jakarta. Loss of hair in the South-East region of Asia is seen as an urgent (cultural) problem, creating a vast commercial potential for HASCI. Already, the clinics in Europe receive various patients from South-East Asia to undergo treatment.

HASCI will set up an HST clinic in Jakarta to serve the domestic and regional demand. The joint venture will employ 45 staff members amongst which dermatologists and nurses. Hardware investments include building renovation and purchase of medical/operational equipment. Staff will be trained in a.o. HST techniques, (post) patient treatment, hygiene, dermatology, HIV/AIDS prevention, applying diagnostic tests.

The company will pursue an active outreach campaign which includes accessing a network of hospitals and clinics. It will disseminate and publish information on its transplantation techniques amongst relevant sector players including doctors and dermatologists.

[garethbale]

To thicken ...

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Wesley+Sneijder/Torino+FC+v+FC+Internazionale+Milano+Serie/T70VBsR8Iz9

... what exactly up?

And why concealers, if he still IS able to use additional HST's ??

Interesting, I really thought that just at HS are the biggtest idiots on this planet ...

No, you are providing a photo where you can barely see Sneijder's HT. I'm talking about a photo where you can see the top of his head. I can't seem to link them as they all seem to be from HS. And as hairysituation says, look at Joling's (or Dean Saunder's) result. You can barely see the transplanted hair!

Interesting that you go to such lengths to bash histogen over their lack of new hairs or visible growth, when clearly in Gho's photos the hairs are so thin its ridiculous. Gho's HTs are only a good option if you plan on wearing a buzzcut.

And you call me the idiot???

[534623]

http://staging2.usmedia.nl/advance-c...nic-in-jakarta

General information

Project location:Jakarta, Indonesia

Consortium:Hair Science Institute BV and PT Akurat Intan Mayda

Project Budget:€ 1,175,260
[...]
HASCI will set up an HST clinic in Jakarta to serve the domestic and regional demand.
[...]
The company will pursue an active outreach campaign which includes accessing a network of hospitals and clinics. It will disseminate and publish information on its transplantation techniques amongst relevant sector players including doctors and dermatologists.

Good find, didi! I like especially the "regional demand" part ...

[gc83uk]

No, you are providing a photo where you can barely see Sneijder's HT. I'm talking about a photo where you can see the top of his head. I can't seem to link them as they all seem to be from HS. And as hairysituation says, look at Joling's (or Dean Saunder's) result. You can barely see the transplanted hair!

Interesting that you go to such lengths to bash histogen over their lack of new hairs or visible growth, when clearly in Gho's photos the hairs are so thin its ridiculous. Gho's HTs are only a good option if you plan on wearing a buzzcut.

And you call me the idiot???

This argument about the hairs being thin is bordering on ridiculous now.

Having had HST twice, I am in a better position that most to assess the thickness of the hairs.

If you are talking about the diameter of the hairs being thinner, then you are 100% wrong. However if your talking about the end result being thinner as in the grafts per sq cm being sparse, then yes I can understand where your coming from with this.

Generally 35 grafts per sq cm is what Gho does, and up to around 50-60 grafts per sq cm in subsequent procedures.

I don't believe there is a single documented case as of yet of Gho doing subsequent procedures maxing the grafts to 50-60 grafts per sq cm, so to say HST is in some way substandard is not correct.

Joling is only a few months into his 3rd HST, from what I can gather the 2nd HST was not in the frontal area, the 3rd HST is in the frontal area, so I would imagine there is approx 50 grafts per sq cm in that area now, but to assess it after just a few months really isn't fair.

I reckon in the next 12 months we will be able to comment more on the overall density on what Gho can achieve. It's also worth mentioning that there is another procedure called HSI, (different to HST) the main difference here is the grafts are implanted at the same time as the hole is made in the scalp, this means the spacing between the grafts is much less, which theoretically will allow for a greater density much higher than this 50-60 grafts per sq cm.

HSI is still in the early stages and reserved for patients like myself with severe alopecia or burns, the cons are the procedure takes about twice as long. They struggle to do more than 700-1000 grafts per day with HSI.

[hairysituation]

This argument about the hairs being thin is bordering on ridiculous now.

Ok, so you basically saying that the sparseness is due to their light density packing (30 grafts pr square centimeter), and not the hair diameter.

Since you are an honest and actual patient, do you mind if I ask you some questions?

1. If they can get constant 80% regeneration, why are the conservative in their approach?

2. Why do they keep on repeating "A natural density is more important then a high density"? I mean, a natural density and a high density is not contradictory.

3. Look at Gerard Joling, it dosen´t look like a man who had over 7000 grafts. Do you agree or disagree?