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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1408

    well you guys can always opt for the below if you don't like Gho





    hahahahahahaha

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    • mlao
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 384

      Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
      Go ahead laugh, but until Dr. Gho can prove to the hair loss community that his
      "magic procedure" works the joke is on everyone who forks over the thirteen thousand dollars to have it done.

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      • mlao
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 384

        It seems that all the people from Hairsite think this question is a joke.
        They are implying that Dr. Gho's procedure is so innovative that only he can explain why he doesn't use a magnifying loupe, which is a standard tool in most types of surgery.
        I'm fine with that just have him step up and present at the ISHRS yearly meeting in Alaska and explain it along with all his other magical methods.
        I realize that a lot of you think I am anti Gho well you're wrong.
        I just don't want to see hair loss sufferers get ripped off once again by a guy who seems to be performing FUE.

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        • NeedHairASAP
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 1408

          Originally posted by mlao
          It seems that all the people from Hairsite think this question is a joke.
          They are implying that Dr. Gho's procedure is so innovative that only he can explain why he doesn't use a magnifying loupe, which is a standard tool in most types of surgery.
          I'm fine with that just have him step up and present at the ISHRS yearly meeting in Alaska and explain it along with all his other magical methods.
          I realize that a lot of you think I am anti Gho well you're wrong.
          I just don't want to see hair loss sufferers get ripped off once again by a guy who seems to be performing FUE.
          It is a common fact that the cells around the bottom of a hair follicle are what is creating the regrowth IN ANY TYPE OF HAIR TRANSPLANT. This is a fact backed by atleast 6 or 7 sources including Dr. Cole. Even Dr. Rassman (aka Dr. Rat Man) admits this.


          Now with that understood malo; you should read everything you can about Gho's procedure and put the logic together yourself. I think that if you accept the premise that the dermil sheath or dermal papilla or whatever the cells around the bottom/sides of the follicle are what is causeing the regrwoth in the recipient area than you can't deny Gho's theory..... you can not deny HST... you can say that maybe his technicians are not good at the procedure but the science behind it is pretty much common fact... whether the outcomes are consistent I guess is up in the air


          I think Gho has also proven, at the very least, that his procedure is the MOST NON INVASIVE PROCEDURE AVAILABLE... and thats hands down. there is no other hair transplant you can get where the down time is under 3 days... The Jooling guy who got the surgery was partying two nights later... I've heard FUE and FUT horror stories where peoples heads are throbbing for weeks on end.... This non invasiveness has been mentioned by Dutch Forum members... at least 2 or 3... and the people in all of goes videos (15 videos at least) all seem in much better shape immediately after than any other FUE



          and as for EVERYBODY saying that it seems he is just doing FUE.... uh ya, duh..... The procedure is a refined FUE method... so ya from far away its going to look EXACTLY LIKE FUE.... not sure why you think it wouldnt ook like FUE from afar? the difference is your scars heal within 3-5 days and the regrowth can be up to 3 months (or more) sooner than ANY OTHER TRADITIONAL TRANSPLANT METHOD



          ya the procedure is too much... because only one person offers it... if retards like you guys would DEMAND the procedure and BOYCOTT those FUT or FUE surgeons... THAN MORE PEOPLE WILL OFFER IT AND THE MORE PEOPLE THAT OFFER IT THE CHEAPER IT WILL BE


          I will tell you right now. HST will be cheaper in 12-16 months once Gho gets some other places open and people "graduate" from his HST program


          I can't wait ton tell all of you.... "I told you so"




          but in all seriousness guys... look up that premise (that the cells around the hair follicle are what causes the regrowth IN ANY TYPE OF TRANSPLANT) and decide for yourselves if its true.

          Next read all the articles about HST you can find... and then decide for yourselves is the science behind it is solid.


          This is a better approach than crying about not seeing proof



          There is a guy , Grant aka Scissor boy, who had 1200-1400 grafts done by Gho... He is suppose to be flying back for an in depth, head shaving, inspection by Gho...... So if we dont see other proof from forum members around the world by then... we should have some more proof for donor regrowth in six months tops.....


          until then have fun talking about your limp d*cks from propecia and massive rogaine sheds that probably will never regrow.....

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          • mlao
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 384

            Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
            Now with that understood malo; you should read everything you can about Gho's procedure and put the logic together yourself. I think that if you accept the premise that the dermil sheath or dermal papilla or whatever the cells around the bottom/sides of the follicle are what is causeing the regrwoth in the recipient area than you can't deny Gho's theory..... you can not deny HST... you can say that maybe his technicians are not good at the procedure but the science behind it is pretty much common fact... whether the outcomes are consistent I guess is up in the air
            I give up.
            PROOF that's all I want. He has yet to produce one patient with his claimed result. No photo evidence of regrowth in the donor area. Show me that.
            Side by side pictures that are verified by other specialists and I will say it's good. I don't care if it's an IAHRS surgeon, a dermatologist or biologist, whatever.
            Again I will ask anybody on this forum or HS if they had the money and he had an opening would you have it done with what we know about the procedure at this moment.

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            • NeedHairASAP
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1408

              Originally posted by mlao
              I give up.
              PROOF that's all I want.



              1. go to english version
              2. go to the navigational bar on the left
              3. click science
              4. at the bottom of the paragraph click "publications: scientific"
              5. pick your poison
              6. for further reading click "general" in the sub navigational bar, under the navigational bar's "in the media" tab
              7. who's your daddy

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              • CVAZBAR
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 443

                Ok when did Gho start this procedure? I don't mean him claiming his HM but this current procedure that he is doing. The HST? How long has he been doing this?

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                • mlao
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 384

                  Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                  http://www.hasci.com/homepage.aspx


                  1. go to english version
                  2. go to the navigational bar on the left
                  3. click science
                  4. at the bottom of the paragraph click "publications: scientific"
                  5. pick your poison
                  6. for further reading click "general" in the sub navigational bar, under the navigational bar's "in the media" tab
                  7. who's your daddy
                  No need to act nasty. The science section on his website is for layman and prospective customers.
                  What I want is for an independent medical peer group to lend validity to his procedure. No good doctor is going to discount the procedure if it works.
                  In his interview with Spencer he said you could verify his technique by taking pictures of the donor area post extraction.
                  The photographic technology exists to take a picture of an isolated magnified area of the scalp where grafts have been taken.
                  If there is better than 90% regrowth after a year I would agree the it's a success.
                  If he were to do this with a controlled group of say 25 patients and presented it to an independent group of doctors that would go a long way to convincing me.

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                  • RichardDawkins
                    Inactive
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 895

                    Over 90% Regrowth? Sorry but HST would be cool if it only had 80% regrowth because even with 80% you simply cannout run out of donor area.

                    Assume you only have 100 Grafts in the donor area left to harvest.

                    1 session 1000 / 800 regenerated
                    2 session 800/ 640 regnerated
                    3 session 640 / 50X regenerated
                    4 session 500 / xxxxxxxxxx

                    You seee with traditional you would only got 1000 Grafts and wit even 80% regeneration you would have around

                    2900 Grafts, now transfer THIS to a person with more then just 1000 harvestable grafts and you catch my drift.

                    Anyway i would really like to see Gho doing his master piece one day, where he grafts 10.000 grafts from a donor area, man this would be fun to see

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                    • RichardDawkins
                      Inactive
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 895

                      Btw NeedHairASAP is actually and boringly right with his statement. If we would all demand this, well the clinics could not afford it to wait anymore.

                      But people are generally despearate and will run to the clinics like flies to shit. Btw funny thing in a german forum Armani offered three patients or so reduced fees if they would show their results :-) this happend right after a huge Gho discussion :-)

                      So if clinics would know that Ghos stuff wont work, why do some of them directly attack at Gho threads immediately after someone asks a question.

                      Wake up guys, even Spencer never had a traditional transplant for good reasons, even docs who perform traditional transplants are warning patients to jump to the next best clinic they see and read also into regenerative stuff.

                      Strangely those docs get attacked by forum users tsch i dont know why.

                      I also see a huge decrease in the price tag in the future for HST, i mean right now Gho offers 2300 Grafts for this 9400 Euros, instead of increase the price tag he decreased it even with being fully booked till 2012.

                      Also they tell you via phone that they can of course get a higher density (70 grafts or so) in multiple sessions two or three. I think they will change this politics soon into One or two sessions tops, like in getting a density of 50 in the first session and then a high density pack afterwards to the point how far you can go without doing harm.

                      Hmm and if all this can be achieved with a fully regenerated donor....... should be nice, i think

                      You know its not about Gho proving us all, we will get plenty of patients in the future anyway its more about


                      CLINICS TO PROVE GHO WRONG

                      And so far none of the clinics had the guts to do it and i ask WHY

                      Anyway i hope that Cole and Cooley will come up and team along with Gho, to me this would be the best constellation. And leave Rat Man out of this, this guy brings my piss and blood to boil every time i see his name

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                      • NeedHairASAP
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 1408

                        Originally posted by mlao

                        What I want is for an independent medical peer group to lend validity to his procedure. No good doctor is going to discount the procedure if it works.

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                        • NeedHairASAP
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 1408

                          Originally posted by mlao

                          The photographic technology exists to take a picture of an isolated magnified area of the scalp where grafts have been taken.

                          If there is better than 90% regrowth after a year I would agree the it's a success.
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                          • NeedHairASAP
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 1408

                            Originally posted by mlao
                            No good doctor is going to discount the procedure if it works.
                            I have to disagree


                            there is a lot of incentive for doctors, even "good" ones, to discount the procedure... until it becomes more cost effective for them to adopt the technology.... but right now..... amping gho is something that NONE of them will do.....

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                            • NeedHairASAP
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 1408

                              Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                              I have to disagree


                              there is a lot of incentive for doctors, even "good" ones, to discount the procedure... until it becomes more cost effective for them to adopt the technology.... but right now..... amping gho is something that NONE of them will do.....

                              do you, maol, expect a comedy TV shows to stop in the middle of the show and mention how you should check out a different comedy show on a different channel because its way funnier?

                              world doesn't seem to work like that... so you have to do a lot of research yourself instead of planning on so and so doctor to give you the go ahead.. because he wont

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                              • mlao
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 384

                                Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
                                I have to disagree


                                there is a lot of incentive for doctors, even "good" ones, to discount the procedure... until it becomes more cost effective for them to adopt the technology.... but right now..... amping gho is something that NONE of them will do.....
                                Well according to everyone in this thread hair restoration doctors in the US are all millionaires so 50,000.00 euros must be pocket change to them.

                                Look I don't want to argue with you. I want to believe in this.
                                I just want to be sure that hair loss sufferers are not getting scammed.
                                Even Dr. Gho's clinic has said that the donor supply is not 100% infinite, see below; a quote from this thread.

                                you CANNOT use ur donor supply infinitely. HASCI TOLD ME THIS THEMSELVES! I ve been to the clinic in Maastricht for consultation.

                                If it is not true donor regeneration and once you are in the chair they tell you that you might only get say 50% back You would be pissed.

                                This is why we need lots of photo evidence and peer evaluation.

                                Any patient considering any cosmetic procedure should think this way for their own good.

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