he's been doing HST since 2008 and has been doing FM before than
He has been pushing HST commercially and publicly since maybe January 2011ish?
So considering its been around since 2008 it is somewhat troubling there isnt a full restoration picture floating around...
although...if you were a nw7.... if you were to wait 9-12 in between each procedure.. and got 2000+ grafts in each... you'd have an almost full restoration after 5 procedures... aka 5 years... so 2011 is the earliest we would see a full restoration if we were super lucky and somebody actually went through that... BUT i dont think go has offered more than 1600 grafts at a time until the last few months... so I guess its not realistic to expect a full restoration yet... but we should be starting to see people going for their 2nd and 3rd procedure starting to happen in the coming months
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As far as I'm concerned Dr. Gho's method seems most promising at this point. Realizing there is an obvious lack of sufficient documentation regarding Gho's patients, has anyone tried contacting him personally to request he do a more thorough and well documented review of his results?
Scissorboy's results indicate to me that were moving away from hair transplants and more towards stem cell hair restoration; a very positive step in the right direction in my mind. This is of course dependent on whether or not the donor hair proves to regenerate fully with no significant thinning or loss of hair post procedure. Regardless, the fact that there is no scarring is definitely a plus!
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4 month update:
Scissorboy commented on his facebook video page regarding his donor hair:
"I can see no thinning in the donor area and no signs of thinning in that area... however that is not a part of my head that is easy to observe like the front of my head and my hair density there is very thick and very little hair was extracted over a fairly large donor area so I can't give a really good answer on re-growth. I will take some up close pics of the donor and post them here shortly. My hair in that section is about an inch thick right now so I will try to part it when taking the pictures. I think it will be hard to see anything with a normal camera even with closeups but I will take them anyway. I was suggested to get a dino microscrope to look close but they are $500-900. If you have any other suggestions for verification please let me know."
I AGREE
has anyone tried to contact Gho and ask
1. have you done a full restoration yet? a nw6 to nw2 or even more dramatic?
3. Can you possibly put up more results?
at this point I'm convinced that Gho can get at least 50% regrowth on average... my main questions now are
1. can we get a full restoration? nobody on the site seems to have had more than 2000 grafts....
2. how many grafts can we expect on average? i think in the past about 6,000 grafts is the average MAX grafts that can be extracted without a severe thin look in the donor... so what is the average possible grafts with HST? 9000? 10000? more?
lastly some german singer.. joling or something... he had two or three strip surgerys... which would usually max out many patient's donor areas... however joling has had TWO MORE procedures (both HST)... this is pretty good evidence that Gho is for real... and joling looks alright
I like go because I doubt i'll get my young nw1 hairline back... thusly I'd like to have my head shaved... but it would nice to have a hairline that atleast somewhat frames my face... like joling or WS has doneLeave a comment:
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As far as I'm concerned Dr. Gho's method seems most promising at this point. Realizing there is an obvious lack of sufficient documentation regarding Gho's patients, has anyone tried contacting him personally to request he do a more thorough and well documented review of his results?
Scissorboy's results indicate to me that were moving away from hair transplants and more towards stem cell hair restoration; a very positive step in the right direction in my mind. This is of course dependent on whether or not the donor hair proves to regenerate fully with no significant thinning or loss of hair post procedure. Regardless, the fact that there is no scarring is definitely a plus!
Original update:
4 month update:
Scissorboy commented on his facebook video page regarding his donor hair:
"I can see no thinning in the donor area and no signs of thinning in that area... however that is not a part of my head that is easy to observe like the front of my head and my hair density there is very thick and very little hair was extracted over a fairly large donor area so I can't give a really good answer on re-growth. I will take some up close pics of the donor and post them here shortly. My hair in that section is about an inch thick right now so I will try to part it when taking the pictures. I think it will be hard to see anything with a normal camera even with closeups but I will take them anyway. I was suggested to get a dino microscrope to look close but they are $500-900. If you have any other suggestions for verification please let me know."Leave a comment:
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Because unfortunately if the HST grafts are extracted, they have to be cultivated (or be prepared for injection) and after a few hours you can see how many of those cultivated grafts can be usedLeave a comment:
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2 things:
1-scissorboy is a relative "EASY" case , but any way we need to compare with many many other cases ( and sadly we will have to wait at least other 9 months...)
2- if i understood well from the video Gho said that they are gonna cultivate the hair sying something like :" from 1 hair we make 2 hair from 2 hair we make 4 etc." I still dont understand if the donor regrow totally or not and why in some case i couldnt use all the hair like the case of the 525 hair instead of 1200. we need to make clear these points. to have CLEAR answers. sorry but im a beginner very confused.
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This statement makes zero sense! A medical procedure (even a cosmetic one) is not analogous to a situation comedy.
And you talk about doing research well that is what I want done.
Over on HS you guys are negotiating with Scissor Boy to have his results examined by an independent party. I believe it was you who suggested that he even has to shave his head again.
So you are looking for the same verification that I am.
So don't lecture me on my demands for a third party opinion.
if the good Dr. Gho would simply take some of his cases and document them from the beginning to end, It would end the skepticism that people have.
Just look at the sites of some of the leading clinics like The Shapiro Medical Group, Hasson & Wong, or Dr. Robert Bernstein. They all show hundreds of cases in high-resolution photography. They have nothing to hide.
The idea of Dr. Gho's technique appeals to me very much. i have held off on having a procedure done hoping that something less invasive like this would come along. I just don't want to be scammed!Leave a comment:
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i absolutely quote . is impossible to find photos, so who had experience about that please post photos , after we will try to put them in order.
Before pics, 6 month pics, and 12 month pics
but every photo will be good . PHOTOS ARE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.Leave a comment:
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Many people talk about wanting to see pics of NW7s transformed to NW1 but how when he hasnt been doing this that long. Unfortunately that would take many years. We need to see more cases and doctors need to work on this here in the states. Sneijders hair looks great.Leave a comment:
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Somebody needs to put together a Gho photo album.
Before pics, 6 month pics, and 12 month pics. I am seriously curious but can't find these pics for the likes of Wesley or Gerald.
And what about their testimonials. 1 year testimonials are very important
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as i said before, the closer you can come to 12.000 harvested grafts, the better your result will be.
I think 12.000 Grafts are the magic transformation number with a good dense result
And if you dont wanna get Gho doing everything, at a certain point you can always opt for FUE to lower your hairline or whatever you wanna doLeave a comment:
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Obviously you can't have infinite donor. If you harvest the same graft spot over and over and over and over and over you can't assume your body can just heal that. I dont think anyone said HST is infinite.
even 50% regrowth is good. A person who with traditional FUE or FUT could only get 6,000 grafts now can...
on the first procedure get 6,000 (gho doesnt offer mega sessions yet, this is just for examples sake)
on a second procedure get another 3,000
on a third procedure we'll say he gets a final 1,500 before his donor starts to look depleted (don't forget maybe 25% of this last 1,500 will most likely regenerate)
those calculations are with 50% regrowth not Gho's claims of 80-100% regrowth.
so Gho has given him an extra 4,500 that NO OTHER DOCTOR can offer
in conclusion,
go to Gho and you can get 9,500 grafts done (this should give nw5+ a fighting chance)
or go to tradtional procedures and get 6,000 (plus longer recovery, higher chances of scarring, etc.)
so for nw5+ people... for you in layman's terms......
Go to Gho and look like wesley schnjieder or gerald joling with shaved heads
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go to a traditional FUE or Strip surgery and be that guy with the comb over who was better off not getting a hair transplant (6,000 grafts on nw6 or 7 can't be anything but a comb over)Leave a comment:
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Nothing is 100% and they say almost intact donor for future treatments and i think that they mean "If you are a NW7 you can restore your hair to around 70 to 80% of your original hair and then its the endLeave a comment:
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Well according to everyone in this thread hair restoration doctors in the US are all millionaires so 50,000.00 euros must be pocket change to them.
Look I don't want to argue with you. I want to believe in this.
I just want to be sure that hair loss sufferers are not getting scammed.
Even Dr. Gho's clinic has said that the donor supply is not 100% infinite, see below; a quote from this thread.
you CANNOT use ur donor supply infinitely. HASCI TOLD ME THIS THEMSELVES! I ve been to the clinic in Maastricht for consultation.
If it is not true donor regeneration and once you are in the chair they tell you that you might only get say 50% back You would be pissed.
This is why we need lots of photo evidence and peer evaluation.
Any patient considering any cosmetic procedure should think this way for their own good.Leave a comment:
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do you, maol, expect a comedy TV shows to stop in the middle of the show and mention how you should check out a different comedy show on a different channel because its way funnier?
world doesn't seem to work like that... so you have to do a lot of research yourself instead of planning on so and so doctor to give you the go ahead.. because he wontLeave a comment:
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