HASCI - -How well does it work? Now we'll be able to find out!

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  • AlmostUndone
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 127

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    • AlmostUndone
      Senior Member
      • May 2015
      • 127

      Hey, I think one more week, and the final answer shall be laid before your eyes. We're almost there now.

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      • cocacola
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 222

        Thank you for taking the time to explore this thing in such depth! I am hoping results will show some regeneration, but if they dont show any i wonder if we have any sort recourse versus hasci...

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        • AlmostUndone
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 127

          Before (left side)

          Before (right side)


          Thirteen months after (left side)

          Thirteen months after (right side)







          There is it. The final answer is in those pics! I put in immense markings, and now it shouldn't be hard for someone to count what the regeneration rate is.

          Oh, time is up. I have done my share, delivered what I promised. I hope the pictures are enough to count all the new hair in the recipient, but I won't be doing it myself. Cheers

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          • caddarik79
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 495

            Hello Almostundone,

            Euuuuuuh, it seems that you provided pictures of your recipient.
            But the regeneration debate is about what comes back in the donor area... no?
            Their claim is that 85% of what is taken in donor will come back.

            I don't get how could we figure this out with recipient ara pictures.

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            • AlmostUndone
              Senior Member
              • May 2015
              • 127

              Originally posted by caddarik79
              Hello Almostundone,

              Euuuuuuh, it seems that you provided pictures of your recipient.
              But the regeneration debate is about what comes back in the donor area... no?
              Their claim is that 85% of what is taken in donor will come back.

              I don't get how could we figure this out with recipient ara pictures.
              A while back we already did two separate analysis of the donor which you'll find earlier in this thread: Before and after, just like the recipient. What more do you wish for??

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              • caddarik79
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 495

                Sorry did not see that. What were the conclusion for donor ?

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                • AlmostUndone
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2015
                  • 127

                  Arashi's analysis: 1166 hairs lost in the donor. (on page 15 of this thread)
                  My own analysis: 1243 hairs lost in the donor (on page 16 of this thread)

                  My analysis had a very different concept from Arashi's. The results for both oughta be re-checked at some point

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                  • AlmostUndone
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 127

                    Fifteen months after, not thirteen months.

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                    • AlmostUndone
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 127

                      What happened guys? One year ago - no, five months ago you tell me you are very excited, but can't now perhaps help out a little bit. Cocacola, cadarrik? What should we do??

                      Look how much work I've done guys! Today I updated the pictures one more time (See links above) so you guys should now be able to easily figure out the final answer, tomorrow, if you'd like.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                        What happened guys? One year ago - no, five months ago you tell me you are very excited, but can't now perhaps help out a little bit. Cocacola, cadarrik? What should we do??

                        Look how much work I've done guys! Today I updated the pictures one more time (See links above) so you guys should now be able to easily figure out the final answer, tomorrow, if you'd like.
                        Agreed, I also think it's a good idea of one of them would do the final counting. Because if I'd do it and I'd tell the world 'surprise, HASCI is just an expensive FUE, no new hair was created at all', they'd just say the research was bad, like they've been saying so far.

                        Anyway really awesome job so far Almostundone, I know how hard it was to get to where you are now, so much work !

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                        • Arashi
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 3888

                          Originally posted by AlmostUndone
                          What happened guys? One year ago - no, five months ago you tell me you are very excited, but can't now perhaps help out a little bit. Cocacola, cadarrik? What should we do??
                          So it seems no one is interested in the final conclusion. Well I guess we know the answer already. You had 800 grafts transplanted and you've lost roughly 1200 hairs in donor as we found in your donor analysis. Combine that with the fact that we've seen earlier HASCI transplants roughly 1.5 hair/graft and yeah, we know the answer already I guess. HASCI's magic trick is just a FUE with 1.5 hair/graft on average.

                          Still if no one wants to do it, I might do the final calcs, but currently I'm really busy

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                          • Swooping
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2014
                            • 794

                            Originally posted by Arashi
                            So it seems no one is interested in the final conclusion. Well I guess we know the answer already. You had 800 grafts transplanted and you've lost roughly 1200 hairs in donor as we found in your donor analysis. Combine that with the fact that we've seen earlier HASCI transplants roughly 1.5 hair/graft and yeah, we know the answer already I guess. HASCI's magic trick is just a FUE with 1.5 hair/graft on average.

                            Still if no one wants to do it, I might do the final calcs, but currently I'm really busy
                            Hey Arashi, how you doing.
                            Last edited by Winston; 10-04-2016, 08:53 PM. Reason: Please refer to our posting policies and Terms of Service.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              Originally posted by Swooping
                              Hey Arashi, how you doing.
                              Hey Swooping how are you doing mate ?

                              Everything fine here. I've just started counting the recipient since nobody seems to feel like doing it. On the one hand it's kind of unnecessary, but on the other hand, the work doesn't feel complete without it.

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                @Almostundone: I've started mapping the before/after the way I previously did (coloured lines and numbers) and man you've done a great job again mate Everything I checked tonight you've mapped correctly, that must have been some blood, sweat and tears to get that done, big respect ! I've started on your left temple, a bit above the area where grafts got transplanted so it's easier to link before to after. Once I've mapped that area I'll move onto the transplanted area to do the counting.

                                Depending on the time I have I hope to have everything ready in about 2 weeks.

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