any news of Gaz after 5th HST?

[Pentarou]

Just another bump in case Gaz gets round to offering some photos and an update...

Hope you are well, Gaz. Belated congratulations on becoming a father.

[caddarik79]

Hi Caddarik,

Perhaps a good FUE might have done, however I wasn't a good candidate, due to the type of alopecia I had as a child, they believed that it could set it off again and make things worse, despite me saying it couldn't really get any worse.

I went to a few clinics in the UK and a few more turned me down, one suggested a flap procedure, where basically they try and cut out the bare scalp, lol, that wasn't ever a consideration in my mind.

Another FUE clinic said 2500 max was as far as I could go with my poor donor and I was really considering these guys.

But then I found Gho because of his treatment on people with scarring & unusual cases, and OMG am I glad I chose him.

My biggest fear of getting FUE was it not working or looking awful and then not being able to take my last resort, shaving to the bone, because of the white speckle fue dots on my head. I couldn't face that scenario.

The fact that Gho was using needles smaller than anyone else at the time (don't know about now) minimised the risk for me.

Also doing it bit by bit, allowed my scalp to recover much more easily, who knows what might have happened if I had gone ahead and got 2500 FUE in one procedure.

Regeneration wasn't my priority, it was just being able to get some hair in that huge slick area and hope that the donor doesn't get damaged in the process. Obviously this worked and the rest is history.

Hey Cocacola, great to see all the old names still connected to the forum!

To be completely honest, one of the best things about Hasci for me is the healing recovery time, it just feels like going to the dentist, so I wouldn't personally hesitate in going back for a 2nd procedure if I were you.

As for my donor area now, you can see like gaps, but I have had like 6 procedures. If I grow my hair to say a 1cm it looks fine totally unnoticeable, but for the first 3 or 4 procedures even down to a grade 1 it looked totally fine.

As for the regeneration, that old chestnut lol, discussed to death on here, I still believe there is some regeneration, however I think it sort of happens by accident/chance depending on how much of the donor graft is taken and the stage of life that graft is in. I'd still say there is approx 20% net gain.

Anyway I had 1000 HST 2 weeks ago now, so that takes me to approx 7100 grafts, which is not far off 10,000 hairs (about 1.35 per graft) taken from my donor and implanted in the recipient and I even got slightly greedy you could say by asking them to lower those window peaks by approx 1cm either side, so a few have gone in there too, nothing major.

I will post a photo shortly and upload to some cloud site.


Take care all

Thank you for your answer! You must be happy with it.

What about these pictures ?
Did you Have a chance to talk to them about their own researches and potential future treatments?

On their site, it looks way less active and funky as if their golden era was past them...

[gc83uk]

Hi Caddarik,

Perhaps a good FUE might have done, however I wasn't a good candidate, due to the type of alopecia I had as a child, they believed that it could set it off again and make things worse, despite me saying it couldn't really get any worse.

I went to a few clinics in the UK and a few more turned me down, one suggested a flap procedure, where basically they try and cut out the bare scalp, lol, that wasn't ever a consideration in my mind.

Another FUE clinic said 2500 max was as far as I could go with my poor donor and I was really considering these guys.

But then I found Gho because of his treatment on people with scarring & unusual cases, and OMG am I glad I chose him.

My biggest fear of getting FUE was it not working or looking awful and then not being able to take my last resort, shaving to the bone, because of the white speckle fue dots on my head. I couldn't face that scenario.

The fact that Gho was using needles smaller than anyone else at the time (don't know about now) minimised the risk for me.

Also doing it bit by bit, allowed my scalp to recover much more easily, who knows what might have happened if I had gone ahead and got 2500 FUE in one procedure.

Regeneration wasn't my priority, it was just being able to get some hair in that huge slick area and hope that the donor doesn't get damaged in the process. Obviously this worked and the rest is history.

Hey Cocacola, great to see all the old names still connected to the forum!

To be completely honest, one of the best things about Hasci for me is the healing recovery time, it just feels like going to the dentist, so I wouldn't personally hesitate in going back for a 2nd procedure if I were you.

As for my donor area now, you can see like gaps, but I have had like 6 procedures. If I grow my hair to say a 1cm it looks fine totally unnoticeable, but for the first 3 or 4 procedures even down to a grade 1 it looked totally fine.

As for the regeneration, that old chestnut lol, discussed to death on here, I still believe there is some regeneration, however I think it sort of happens by accident/chance depending on how much of the donor graft is taken and the stage of life that graft is in. I'd still say there is approx 20% net gain.

Anyway I had 1000 HST 2 weeks ago now, so that takes me to approx 7100 grafts, which is not far off 10,000 hairs (about 1.35 per graft) taken from my donor and implanted in the recipient and I even got slightly greedy you could say by asking them to lower those window peaks by approx 1cm either side, so a few have gone in there too, nothing major.

I will post a photo shortly and upload to some cloud site.


Take care all

[caddarik79]

Same here, very interested in your result.
But one question though !
Wouldn't a good FUE have achieved the same for half thé money ?

We know multiple hst end up damaging the donor in the same fashion. Why not go straight to FUE for more immediate dramatic results?

Also, did you get the chance to talk about future and research at hasci and Gho?

Cheers

[cocacola]

Hi Gaz,

Nice to see you post here. It’s true that time passes by so fast. I did mine in 2013...already 5 years. You were one of the pioneers trying it out on the forum that inspired me to try it as well.

Despite all the criticism of HST it bought me a lot of time to feel ok about my hair as it solidified my hairline and built “permanent” wall even if not too dense.

Now that my crown got rekt a bit and there are some potential treatments on the horizon in a more serious way that 5 years ago i am thinking what should i do.

Would really appreciate your feedback on what multiple HST can achieve and impact on donor from your perspective.

[gc83uk]

Thanks both.

In total with the previous 6100, then we are getting to around 7300 with Tuesdays 6th HST, that should equate to about 10,000 hairs in my case.

I'll get a before photo on here of how it is now, probably tomorrow!

I know what you mean about life and being busy, that is pretty much why I've not been back since 2014. I can't even believe it's been that long!

[c5000]

Hi Gaz

Good to hear from you.

How many grafts will that be in total across all 6 HSTs?

Is there any chance you could upload a pic of how your hair looks just now?

Good luck on the 6th treatment. I think if life wasn’t so busy for me right now, i’d be going back for my 4th treatment!!

[incider]

Nice to hear from you again and good luck with your upcoming HT.

[gc83uk]

In case anyone is still interested, I'm going for my 6th HST on Tuesday. Probably another 1000-1200 I expect.

It's been a while since I last went and looking forward to it!

[long4hair]

I'm 100% sure we are going to see regeneration from pilofocus. The science is behind it. Dr. Gardner confirmed that what he's doing should work. Furthermore, there are studies done that show it works to some degree and acell should increase the percent regenerating. Dr. Cole has said the reason he isn't able to get consistent regeneration from acell is because it leaks, if he had a way to prevent it from leaking he'd get it all the time to some highly beneficial degree. Therefore, with Dr. Wesley administering it underneath the skin, there won't be any leaking. Hence, consistent donor regeneration will follow.

FearTheLoss, you say that the science backs up donor regeneration with Pilofocus - could you please explain why the science behind Pilofocus supports donor regeneration?

Also, you said that Dr. Gardner indicated what Dr. Wesley's doing should achieve donor regeneration - can you please provide a link to Dr. Gardner saying that?

Also, you said there are studies showing that Pilofocus achieves some donor regeneration - can you please post a link to that study?

[gc83uk]

Hey Gaz, how are you doing ? Good to hear from you. I remember having had this discussion with you about how I thought you had over depleted your donor and you said it still looked natural. I was wondering how do you feel about that now ? Personally I think you went over the line and had at least 1 HST too many, but maybe you feel different about that yourself.

Regardless, one should always see surgery like this in light of the initial situation. And man, I must say, you've come a LOOONG way. I remember you said how you had gained your life back and I'm sure that's right (although I still think it would have looked much better if you had done 1-2 HST's less so your donor would have looked natural and healthy, where you've now gotten yourself that moth-eaten/overdepletion look). I hope you don't mind me using those words but you know I've warned you several times that this would be the result, so I'm not going to sugar-coat it now. BUT again, reality is too that it the overall result looks SO much better than it was before that I also think you shouldn't worry too much about it.

About the state of the hairloss industry, I must admit I haven't been watching developments closely but man, it just seems history repeating all over again and I think it's going to be like this for quite some time. But then again, I think the whole scamming haydays are a bit behind us now, all those Dr Nigam/HASCI like buzz about hair cloning, hair regenerating, stem cells etc, it seems to be way less than a few years ago.

BTW, the final results for the HASCI analysis, the 100% proof of its scam (or not, lol), are almost in, just watch that other thread

I really thought by now this shit would be cured!

I know what you mean about my donor, however the mistake I made was having the first couple of hsts harvested from those 1 inch strips. Would have looked much more evenly harvested had my entire donor area been used equally over all the different procedures, but I'm not too fussed tbh.

[joachim]

Hey Gaz, how are you doing ? Good to hear from you. I remember having had this discussion with you about how I thought you had over depleted your donor and you said it still looked natural. I was wondering how do you feel about that now ? Personally I think you went over the line and had at least 1 HST too many, but maybe you feel different about that yourself.

Regardless, one should always see surgery like this in light of the initial situation. And man, I must say, you've come a LOOONG way. I remember you said how you had gained your life back and I'm sure that's right (although I still think it would have looked much better if you had done 1-2 HST's less so your donor would have looked natural and healthy, where you've now gotten yourself that moth-eaten/overdepletion look). I hope you don't mind me using those words but you know I've warned you several times that this would be the result, so I'm not going to sugar-coat it now. BUT again, reality is too that it the overall result looks SO much better than it was before that I also think you shouldn't worry too much about it.

About the state of the hairloss industry, I must admit I haven't been watching developments closely but man, it just seems history repeating all over again and I think it's going to be like this for quite some time. But then again, I think the whole scamming haydays are a bit behind us now, all those Dr Nigam/HASCI like buzz about hair cloning, hair regenerating, stem cells etc, it seems to be way less than a few years ago.

BTW, the final results for the HASCI analysis, the 100% proof of its scam (or not, lol), are almost in, just watch that other thread

hey arashi, regarding latest treatments with tsuji, follica, etc.: u should have a look at "H"L"T". that's the place where news happen now, and in future.

[Arashi]

Hey, long time since I was last online here.

I was thinking I hadn't posted any photos for what seems like years!

As said previously I usually buzz it to a grade 2 and it feels good around that length, however I've gotten lazy of late, I think this might be the longest it's ever been, so I snapped a couple of crappy pics with my camera phone: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtZbVzz0gZcaok_TLPdKd0tnea30.

I'll be shaving it tomorrow, but thought some would appreciate these sort of photos rather than just seeing the buzz versions all the time.

When it's short it looks better IMO, however others (usually older ppl) tell me to grow it. F**k that.

I won't be getting any more procedures in the coming months/year, after that we'll see maybe. Way too busy trying to live life right now with a 2yr old and a 9 month old baby, it's complicated enough without worrying about how many follicles I have

Is there any progress in the hair transplant industry?

Hope all is well with my old btt guys.

Hey Gaz, how are you doing ? Good to hear from you. I remember having had this discussion with you about how I thought you had over depleted your donor and you said it still looked natural. I was wondering how do you feel about that now ? Personally I think you went over the line and had at least 1 HST too many, but maybe you feel different about that yourself.

Regardless, one should always see surgery like this in light of the initial situation. And man, I must say, you've come a LOOONG way. I remember you said how you had gained your life back and I'm sure that's right (although I still think it would have looked much better if you had done 1-2 HST's less so your donor would have looked natural and healthy, where you've now gotten yourself that moth-eaten/overdepletion look). I hope you don't mind me using those words but you know I've warned you several times that this would be the result, so I'm not going to sugar-coat it now. BUT again, reality is too that it the overall result looks SO much better than it was before that I also think you shouldn't worry too much about it.

About the state of the hairloss industry, I must admit I haven't been watching developments closely but man, it just seems history repeating all over again and I think it's going to be like this for quite some time. But then again, I think the whole scamming haydays are a bit behind us now, all those Dr Nigam/HASCI like buzz about hair cloning, hair regenerating, stem cells etc, it seems to be way less than a few years ago.

BTW, the final results for the HASCI analysis, the 100% proof of its scam (or not, lol), are almost in, just watch that other thread

[gc83uk]

Hey, long time since I was last online here.

I was thinking I hadn't posted any photos for what seems like years!

As said previously I usually buzz it to a grade 2 and it feels good around that length, however I've gotten lazy of late, I think this might be the longest it's ever been, so I snapped a couple of crappy pics with my camera phone: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AtZbVzz0gZcaok_TLPdKd0tnea30.

I'll be shaving it tomorrow, but thought some would appreciate these sort of photos rather than just seeing the buzz versions all the time.

When it's short it looks better IMO, however others (usually older ppl) tell me to grow it. F**k that.

I won't be getting any more procedures in the coming months/year, after that we'll see maybe. Way too busy trying to live life right now with a 2yr old and a 9 month old baby, it's complicated enough without worrying about how many follicles I have

Is there any progress in the hair transplant industry?

Hope all is well with my old btt guys.

[aim4hair]

Even with a good traditional hair transplant where the hairs are placed at the right angles to match existing hairs, hair never seems to lay flat as it exits the scalp like natural non transplanted hair does at inbetween lengths

This is not true, a good HT doctor would be able to exactly follow the natural hair direction whether the hair lay flat forward or spike up.... and this is the only way you can have a natural result. Otherwise it is just not natural looking and your head will be showing clearly an obvious unnatural and terrible hair transplant.
For example in attached pic, the patient natural hair lay flat forward.... Look how the transplanted hair follow exactly the natural angles and all of them are implanted in the same angles which looks very good and natural and noone would be able to tell that he had an HT no matter what the length of his hair is.....
Look how the angles of the hairline are perfectly done as well as the angles of the temple hair.......
If a clinic promise you a "natural" result, then following exactly the natural hair direction is the ONLY way to achieve that.... If they can't do that then they shouldn't promise you a "natural" result.