Gho's files patent for Hair multiplication

[35YrsAfter]

Acell has nothing to do with HST.

ACell is just one brand of extracellular matrix medical product made from pigs bladder. Neither you nor I know whether Gho incorporates an extracellular matrix product in his procedure.

You quoted:

YES, transected follicles, be they lateral or partially longitudinal can regenerate a terminal hair….too bad that the yield is very very very low.

OK, so we're NOT talking about something considered impossible because it has never happened. If even a miserably low number of transected follicles can regrow, Why not more? Are you not aware of the number of "low yield" results that have been dramatically improved upon through advances in technology?

What you are promoting on the nay side here is like:

Nails are no good for building homes because they rust.
Solution: galvanized nails, stainless steel nails, coated nails.

In 1998 a software engineer told me that computer games will always be pixelated because there is no way a GPU could be made powerful enough to generate realistic looking graphics.
Solution provided by Nvidia and ATI.

Wood is not a suitable material for framing homes because it's prone to rot and termite damage.
Solution: Pressure treated wood.

Greenware coffee cup melts in the dishwasher therefore, clay is an unsuitable material for kitchenware.
Solution: fire the cup in a kiln.

Crops grow poorly from seed planted in clay soil.
Solution: Test soil for ph and till in soil amendments.

These simple examples could go on and on.

My earlier point is a very valid one... Doctors placed plugs for around 30 years. Why did it take so long for single hair placement to catch on? That fact alone gives me very little confidence in these studies that some think prove follicle regeneration has not improved in the last ten years. There will always be a minority of doctors making breakthroughs that become the object of ridicule and disbelief. I'm not saying Gho can do what he claims, I'm just saying that it is possible considering the current state of regenerative medicine.

[clarence]

Here, I just looked it up for you:

Nothing interesting about those ingredients, perhaps, but might any possible electrolytes present make a difference?

[gc83uk]

Maybe he is. I know some clinics are using HASCI size drills for quite a while. They just call it FUE though, they didnt make a special name for it like Gho did.

Thought hasci had a patent on their drill. Would be interesting to see that patent!

[Arashi]

Interesting!

Why isn't woods doing this now? Or is he?

Maybe he is. I know some clinics are using HASCI size drills for quite a while. They just call it FUE though, they didnt make a special name for it like Gho did.

[Arashi]

but is this what Hasci's patented extraction tools are attempting to do would you say?

No. Dr Gardner explained it very well:

Because in order to split the follicle correctly it needs to be micro-dissected out of its surrounding tissues which accompany the follicle even during an FUE. This takes time ~3-5 minutes depending on the skill of the person and how "clean" the follicle was when it came out. So if you scale this up by the several thousand follicles required you end up with a very large number of man hours.

[gc83uk]

Dr Woods reported 0-5% regrowth, I'd say HST is in that same range, would make a LOT of sense.

Interesting!

Why isn't woods doing this now? Or is he?

[Arashi]

I'm not pretending I know so, because I don't, but is this what Hasci's patented extraction tools are attempting to do would you say? Like I've said a few times, I suspect there is some regeneration with Hasci, but it's more accidental, meaning by the law of averages, you're going to hit the sweet spot, what % of the time I obviously don't know.

Dr Woods reported 0-5% regrowth, I'd say HST is in that same range, would make a LOT of sense.

[gc83uk]

Again, like Dr Aaron Gardner said, the ONLY way this could work is to disect the follicle under a microscope, remove all sheaths, split the stem cells and then implant those back. This would however take 5-10 minutes PER FOLLICLE. So let's say 5-10 follicles per hour, not feasible in practice. But this could work. Just cutting a follicle in half will not work.

I'm not pretending I know so, because I don't, but is this what Hasci's patented extraction tools are attempting to do would you say? Like I've said a few times, I suspect there is some regeneration with Hasci, but it's more accidental, meaning by the law of averages, you're going to hit the sweet spot, what % of the time I obviously don't know.

[joachim]

BTW, maybe Dr Nigam actually DID succeed, but he just didnt realize it because he implanted all follicles upside down. LOL

looooool

[Arashi]

BTW, maybe Dr Nigam actually DID succeed, but he just didnt realize it because he implanted all follicles upside down. LOL

Anyway, Gho publicized his method in that journal a few years ago. All ingredients of his elixer are public. So anyone interested can repeat the experiment 1:1. Wouldnt you agree that if it really worked, that somebody would have succeeded replicating his experiment and selling hair multiplication therapies by now ?

[Arashi]

Here, I just looked it up for you:

EXCERPT
Suitable longitudinal partial follicular units were visually and stored in the preservative medium for 2 hours
until implantation. The medium is composed of the following ingredients:

- sodium chloride,
- potassium chloride,
- magnesium sulphate,
- sodium phosphate,
- calcium chloride,
- glucose,
- sodium bicarbonate,
- sodium lactate,
- sodium pyruvate,
- human serum albumin,
- insulin,
- bis(maltolato)oxovanadium (BMOV)
- and a-tocopherol (vitamin E)
---------------------

Thats right. Your partially transected follicles are soaked in a BLOOD PRODUCT. I assume it is a DONATED or BOUGHT BLOOD PRODUCT from a blood bank Otherwise it would be specified as AUTOLYGOUS BLOOD PRODUCT, meaning, your own donation.

Could the authors please specify, is the HUMAN BLOOD SERUM donated or bought from a blood bank or is it AUTOLOGOUS,

Apart from the serum and insulin, I read equally complicated formulas on ENERGY DRINKS AND CUP-A-SOUP

Dr Ray Woods

[Arashi]

Again, like Dr Aaron Gardner said, the ONLY way this could work is to disect the follicle under a microscope, remove all sheaths, split the stem cells and then implant those back. This would however take 5-10 minutes PER FOLLICLE. So let's say 5-10 follicles per hour, not feasible in practice. But this could work. Just cutting a follicle in half will not work.

[Arashi]

Who tried ghos method and found it failed?

Doctors tried it long before Dr Gho, like dr Woods stated. Dr Limmer and dr Woods probably were the first ones experimenting with this idea, back in the 90's. But others tried it, some even tried it while documenting on this forum, don't you remember that French doctor Mousseigne ? And dr Mwamba ? Even Dr Nigam tried it, he tried several methods, both in vivo and in vitro, none of his experiments were successful. He tried probably every single way: cutting in vitro (like gho does), cutting under microscope, cutting in 2, cutting small pieces, cutting horizontal, cutting vertical. All failed.

Unfortunately it's possible that the medium he keeps it in makes the difference-- which he keeps proprietary.

He patented the medium, so all ingredients are public. One of the ingredients is human blood by the way, something Gho doesnt tell you, that he's bathing your follicles in human blood before injecting them back. That's probably the reason why his magic elixer is illegal in the states. Nothing interesting in the 'secret medium', you can look up all ingredients, dr Woods discussed this 'magic elixer'in one of his posts. There's nothing interesting there.

[gc83uk]

@Cocacola

The original slick area was approx 100cm2 however I decided to get a few hundred placed either side the forelock too, so maybe 120cm2 in all.

@Chuck

Missed your question earlier sorry, yes I would consider beard grafts, especially in the scar area.

[NeedHairASAP]

He explained in that journal how he did it. Again, people tried it, EVERYBODY reported the same: it just does NOT work. It didnt 25 years ago and it doesnt now.

proof

Who tried ghos method and found it failed? Unfortunately it's possible that the medium he keeps it in makes the difference-- which he keeps proprietary. So it makes it hard to test the validity of his claims. As the same time, it leaves the possibility of it working open. Maybe saline is why it didn't work in the past. We just don't know--- or at least I didn't think we knew. You seem to imply others have tried gho's exact protocol and failed. I would be interested in seeing the reports you mention.