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  • DLB550
    Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 30

    #16
    Holy s***balls

    Originally posted by cocacola
    Hey gc!

    Do you think you will post an update with maybe some pics anytime soon. With all this uncertainty, your case is the most we have on hasci. Would be great to see how ur donor and recipient are doing.

    Cheers!
    Seems like I knocked on the wasps nest here. I used CC's post as I too would really like to take a look at where you are at Gaz?

    I really am feeling more confused than ever now, Gaz you mentioned above you were talking about a 20% net gain overall, what would you say happens in the donor area then?

    I think I am somewhere between NW 2.5/3 ish and although I don't actually want NW 0 I want part of my temples filling and getting a more defined forelock again and density in the mid scalp.

    I guess what I really want to know is will HASCI be able to give this to me? Gaz, do you remember my pictures from my previous post?

    I understand what Arashi is saying as if there was 80% regeneration I could have like 5 ops over 5 years which would easily be affordable for me and then I would be dense and well covered.

    I wouldn't want 30 FU/cm2 as this wouldn't give me the density I need.

    Also, if I went for 1 HASCI operation and was totally unhappy could I then go for a 2.5K FUE HT which would give me density but scarring?

    Sorry this bit is slightly off topic, but what's the lastest news on Pilofocus? This is scarless right? and what of possible regeneration?

    I emailed Jotronic this week and he said he has had about 9+k grafts overall, I thought we are all limited to 6k max?

    I really appreciate you guys coming back to me, I'd be lost without you!

    Sorry guys my reponse is all over the place but all these questions are running through my mind and just trying to make some sense of all of this before I make the commitment to go to Hasci, especially as I will have to travel to Maastricht for this.

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    • Hair123
      Member
      • Mar 2013
      • 32

      #17
      Originally posted by Arashi
      If they could prove 20% regrowth and market it accordingly (scarless + 20% regrowth), everybody would be happy. It would be the best alternative currently available and nobody would feel like they got scammed. However unfortunately that's not the reality.
      Perfectly put Arashi.

      The main problem lots of people (myself included) have with Gho is that we simply don't know exactly what we would be paying for.

      The minute they allow us make an informed buying decision things will get much better, regardless of the percentage of regrowth they are achieving (if any).

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      • DLB550
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 30

        #18
        Originally posted by Arashi
        2) They even advise people with GOOD donor (their own words) to not increase the density on the temples above 30 grafts/cm2, which isnt anywhere near enough to look natural, because according to them, a donor simply doesnt contain enough hair for that. If 80% regen was true, there would be WAY more than enough hair to get a NW7 to NW1 with over 60 grafts/cm2 !
        Sorry Arashi but who at HASCI has advised that they can't get the density higher than 30cm2? I thought Gaz stated first operation is around 35cm2 and then a second operation for density?

        Originally posted by Arashi
        3) We've never seen anyone who went more than 4 times to HASCI
        Gaz, what has been said about you going for another session with them, that would be 5 correct? How satisfied are you overall, pics would be great.

        Originally posted by Arashi
        I'm sure there's more but this is from the top of my head. In fact, NOTHING adds up regarding HASCI ...
        But the operation is scarless and you do actually grow hairs in the recipient, correct? So you couldn't get a decent density with HASCI?


        I am also thinking longer term on this as well, I am thinking that the sessions I might have now up to approx 4k grafts would tide me over well for the next 8-10 years perhaps, and then hopefully we see some other important advancements with Johoda etc etc etc which need only 5-600 donor hairs for mass multiplication. Perhaps I'm being niave here as well...

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        • DLB550
          Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 30

          #19
          Hey Guys, is anybody coming back on this one?

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #20
            Originally posted by DLB550
            Sorry Arashi but who at HASCI has advised that they can't get the density higher than 30cm2? I thought Gaz stated first operation is around 35cm2 and then a second operation for density?
            The doctor who treated me (Kristel). On the one hand she said my donor was good. Then, when I mailed them I wanted to go back for another session to increase density she said that wouldnt be a good idea, since there's not enough donor on one's scalp to do that (so increasing density on the temples would use hair that I'd need for when my crown would get thinner for example).

            But the operation is scarless and you do actually grow hairs in the recipient, correct?
            Yes and yes. Recipient growth is quite good actually (just like with a good FUE)

            So you couldn't get a decent density with HASCI?
            You can get density but there's not enough hair with HST to get a full head of density. Which to means it doesn't work as advertised (cause if 80% regrowth would be true, they could turn even a NW7 into a NW1 with natural looking density)

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            • DLB550
              Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 30

              #21
              Thanks for coming back Arashi I appreciate the answers.

              So based on this are you going for an FUE?

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              • DLB550
                Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 30

                #22
                Actually just wanted to post again as this has now totally freaked me out.

                Hasci have advised 1 treatment now and 1 treatment in the future. What if they did 1 session then wouldn't treat me again?

                Then I'd look really odd with a thin first session??

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                • clarence
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 278

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Arashi
                  The doctor who treated me (Kristel). On the one hand she said my donor was good. Then, when I mailed them I wanted to go back for another session to increase density she said that wouldnt be a good idea, since there's not enough donor on one's scalp to do that (so increasing density on the temples would use hair that I'd need for when my crown would get thinner for example).
                  They should (as should you) know fairly well, by your age, if your crown is gonna be a big problem, am I not right?

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                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #24
                    Originally posted by DLB550
                    Thanks for coming back Arashi I appreciate the answers.

                    So based on this are you going for an FUE?
                    No, I wouldn't want FUE, I'd want something scarless. At the moment I think I'm going to wait for pilofocus.

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                    • DLB550
                      Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 30

                      #25
                      What's happening with Pilofocus Arashi? Is there actually regeneration? Any ideas how much it would cost?

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #26
                        Originally posted by DLB550
                        What's happening with Pilofocus Arashi? Is there actually regeneration? Any ideas how much it would cost?
                        Regeneration hasn't been confirmed. Also, you need to read Iron Man's comment:

                        Originally posted by 534623
                        Did he show his own photos in connection with his Pilofocus technique or did he just show the pics from Dr. Jerry Cooley, who extracted grafts with a 4mm punch and applied ACell thereafter? It's the latter ... and therefore, regrowth is just pure speculation based on a small experiment by Dr. Cooley.
                        Watch this video:

                        Originally posted by didi
                        https://vimeo.com/77919975

                        password: piloscopy
                        Regeneration segment of the video starts exactly at the 21 minute mark.

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                        • DLB550
                          Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 30

                          #27
                          Originally posted by hellouser
                          Regeneration hasn't been confirmed. Also, you need to read Iron Man's comment:



                          Watch this video:



                          Regeneration segment of the video starts exactly at the 21 minute mark.
                          Thanks HU,

                          I will take a look at the video. It's looking like HASCI is the best option out there for me at the moment. I wish it wasn't this hard to make a choice!

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