Dr. Nigam, Can We Get an Official Timeline?

[garethbale]

agreed.

I'm starting to think Dr Nigam is beginning to lose credibility and we'll soon be back at square one again

i've seen this happen far too often.

Well Nigam said the following...

''I will give a timeline as requested by you,on 1st november....''


Let's see what happens this time

[hellouser]

No it doesnt tell me where peoples priorities are man. It tells me that this industry hasnt embraced social networking or new technology.

If gamers can solve a ten year HIV puzzle in ten days maybe we need to get our own puzzles into the fold.it framework. I bet there are a ton of balding geeks that could help.

I know enough about kickstarter campaigns to know that we need to be specific and have a clear goal.

Maybe we should do a first kickstarter getting something into fold.it ?

Don't believe me...

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/10/gam...e-in-ten-days/

A kickstarter/crowdfunding campaign initiative has been proposed so many times on this forum and others, but every time a thread comes up theres always at least one negative nancy to come in and try to demolish the idea;
'wah, it wont do anything, wah you won't get far, wah wah wah'

I'm in 1000% to start such a project, but im NOT going to do it on my own, theres way too much work.

[HairBane]

A kickstarter/crowdfunding campaign initiative has been proposed so many times on this forum and others, but every time a thread comes up theres always at least one negative nancy to come in and try to demolish the idea;
'wah, it wont do anything, wah you won't get far, wah wah wah'

I'm in 1000% to start such a project, but im NOT going to do it on my own, theres way too much work.

I'm telling you, a legitimate hair loss cure would get crowdfunded for millions of dollars if it was done right (contact lots of press before starting, make a video explaining the plan, etc.). You could offer various rewards:
$10 = updates, first to be told when it's ready
$10,000+ = first in line for treatment

Check out this $600 laser hat garbage that got funded for half a million dollars http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/th...e-laser-helmet

The only thing that's difficult is the logistics with the money. Who sets up the kickstarter? Are we funding Nigam's manhattan project, or some smaller, more specific experiments? A pre-existing company, or a new venture?

[Arashi]

I'm telling you, a legitimate hair loss cure would get crowdfunded for millions of dollars if it was done right (contact lots of press before starting, make a video explaining the plan, etc.). You could offer various rewards:
$10 = updates, first to be told when it's ready
$10,000+ = first in line for treatment

Check out this $600 laser hat garbage that got funded for half a million dollars http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/th...e-laser-helmet

The only thing that's difficult is the logistics with the money. Who sets up the kickstarter? Are we funding Nigam's manhattan project, or some smaller, more specific experiments? A pre-existing company, or a new venture?

Crowdfunding only works if you make it exactly like a professional investment. Erect a company and price shares at $100 and IPO it. Not sure about regulation though, that's probably going to be the difficult part.

[HairBane]

Crowdfunding only works if you make it exactly like a professional investment. Erect a company and price shares at $100 and IPO it. Not sure about regulation though, that's probably going to be the difficult part.

Crowdfunding right now undeniably works most of the time, but the rewards can't be money. Right now it's illegal to do microinvesting crowdfunding like that, with monetary rewards, but I agree that it's the next revolution, once it's legal.

[hellouser]

Crowdfunding only works if you make it exactly like a professional investment. Erect a company and price shares at $100 and IPO it. Not sure about regulation though, that's probably going to be the difficult part.

You only see it that way, as a professional investment because a) many/most of the kickstarters are meant as such and b) youre in investments yourself

You need to step away from your bias to see the potential in such a project.

[hellouser]

I'm telling you, a legitimate hair loss cure would get crowdfunded for millions of dollars if it was done right (contact lots of press before starting, make a video explaining the plan, etc.). You could offer various rewards:
$10 = updates, first to be told when it's ready
$10,000+ = first in line for treatment

Check out this $600 laser hat garbage that got funded for half a million dollars http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/th...e-laser-helmet

The only thing that's difficult is the logistics with the money. Who sets up the kickstarter? Are we funding Nigam's manhattan project, or some smaller, more specific experiments? A pre-existing company, or a new venture?

All of those things need to be figured before launching such a project. Axel had some fantastic ideas before he disappeared. If he doesnt respond to any of my emails ive already sent him, i'm going to assume he's not interested in the project. By this point, the months that have passed since ive last heard from him, i should assume that anyway.

Like I said, we need to organize a TEAM of dedicated people, discuss a strategy, and then plan the execution before making it live. This would need to happen REALLY fast as many of us are losing patience waiting for these incompetent LOSER scientists peddling their useless findings over the last 30+ years. Enough is enough, the only people that are going to help us are ourselves.

[brunobald]

We can't crowdfund in the same way kickstarter projects do it because this is speculative bioengineering, we have no idea if its going to work, and so can't offer rewards. What we need to offer is a way of accelerating research into mpb cures in general and make sure anyone who donates is donating to slush fund to be spent as we as a community see fit; a little like how cancer research is funded now. Jahoda himself said there is next to no money in hairloss research, we want to see his work become successful.

But we don't want to give money out Willy nilly. That's were clued up students like Desmond come in. We plan for example what work needs to be done in order to get 3d sphereoids 100% gene expressed. We recruits a phd student to undertake the work at a top university using all their equipment. The findings become our of property and we release that info to the public domain. Nobody gains anything but mpb research.

[NeedHairASAP]

I've done a kickstarter. Rewards aren't a necessity, only an addition. An addition that makes feel like less of a donation.

If we wait for equity crowd-funding rules to pass, then we can offer equity stakes in the company.

I'd be happy to fund nigams manhattan project, if we can find a respected CFO and CEO to handle the financials. I'm not sending 500K to nigam directly. He can be head of research organization or whatever.

As to whether other researchers would be down to "split" the rewards, or if they'd rather go solo and reap the benefits themselves. This is a valid point.

i would say to them, would you rather own 100% of $0.00?

Or 5% of $4B? ($200M)

Obviously it's better to team up, increase your chances of success, mitigate your chances of failure-- and take a "smaller" cut.

I think the issue is less convincing them of the above argument, and more a question of who owns their research and if that existing company is willing to sell it to our company for an equity stake.. etc.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

one more day until the official timeline...

by the way in his site there is a thick result...8k grafts. i think its the first one

[didi]

one more day until the official timeline...

by the way in his site there is a thick result...8k grafts. i think its the first one

Pls provide link,


is it this one

http://www.drnigams.net/multiplication/dinesh_5.jpg

[Arashi]

Pls provide link,


is it this one

http://www.drnigams.net/multiplication/dinesh_5.jpg

I'm not sure to laugh or cry anymore. Dr Nigams must think we're all idiots. That's why he'll never get a professional photographer and will always keep posting these useless photo's. I find it insulting.

[didi]

I know what you say but this is what Dr Cole just said in regards to Nigams:

"I did spend a good bit of time with Dr. Nigam in San Francisco. He talks a good game. I need to go there to evaluate the results, however. Other physicians in India are no so sure about his claims. We shall see."

[Arashi]

I know what you say but this is what Dr Cole just said in regards to Nigams:

"I did spend a good bit of time with Dr. Nigam in San Francisco. He talks a good game. I need to go there to evaluate the results, however. Other physicians in India are no so sure about his claims. We shall see."

I don't doubt that Dr Nigams is a great talker. He sure knows how to get people where he wants them. But I don't care about smooth talking. I just want facts and Nigams can't supply any. And btw, did you read about Wesley ? Some weird lumps developed under his skin in the extraction zone, where he received injections and he's afraid that he might have gotten cancer from Nigam's injections. He said he already did a cancer investigation immediately after Nigam's treatment, so he feels somewhat relaxed though and he thinks it might just be hair growing inwards. He is keeping a close eye on it but it does bother him (quite understandably) and therefore he's considering a follow up investigation. Maybe/Probably it's nothing but I can imagine the misery Wesley must be in right now. Poor guy. Let's hope the best for him.

[gc83uk]

Some weird lumps developed under his skin in the extraction zone, where he received injections and he's afraid that he might have gotten cancer from Nigam's injections.

I hope he's OK, I'm sure there is nothing to worry about, but he's doing the right thing by getting checked out! That will put off a huge number of people right there with that story!

Dr Nigam will be freaking out when he reads that.