Let's compare Gaz donor pre-op 2012 and post-op 2013, no?

[Arashi]

Try to mark what you think is a cm2 and count the hairs. I just did that. With black I marked a part that I thought was a cm2. But even if you make it bigger, like I did in red, there's just no way there's much more than 15 grafts/cm2. Probably even lower than that. And keep in mind, these are HASCI grafts !! So not 2.5 hairs/graft, but 1.3 hairs graft.

http://postimg.org/image/592m5udmx/

If you carefully select a part, and really be liberal on the size of the cm2, you might get it up to 20 grafts/cm2 at best. But on average, I think it's not more than 15. And these are HASCI grafts. So I'd say he has the density of about 7-10 FUE grafts/cm2 in recipient.

[Arashi]

Right now you have 50 grafts/cm2 in recipient

What ??? Are we looking at the same recipient ? https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5afwai9h...004_023535.jpg
Remember that the front part has always been there, it's the top part where there were no hairs. I'd say it's closer to 15 grafts/cm2 than 50 grafts/cm2. Possibly even lower than 15.

[didi]

Its showing signs of moth-eaten donor minus white dots, not virgin by any stretch of imagination.

If I was GC I would stop with HSts, you might end up with more hair in recipient than in donor, thin donor look shitty when grown out.


Right now you have 50 grafts/cm2 in recipient, in theory that should be dense enough to wear it longer, 2cm or so?

[Arashi]

I really don't get it you guys say that donor looks great. Yes, there's still hair but if you compare it to a part that was never used, like the part close to his temples ( https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5afwai9h...004_221616.jpg ) , it looks to me that at least half of the hair is gone ( https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5afwai9h...004_022319.jpg ) . If you put half of his donor on top of the scalp, you would see similar results, right ?

Again, HST has been a great solution for Gaz, his scalp just looks so much better than before and having FUE scars was really not an option here. So great decision and great results. But I don't see how this would 'prove' there's any regrowth at all. And then if we look at the facts (like I showed in my analysis), it just seems highly unlikely there's more than 30% regrowth, and it might very well be that there even was no regrowth at all.

[caddarik79]

and I would say that with another 1800, you will have enough coverage to let it grow longer... and keep your donor quiet a rest until something better than HST happens.

[caddarik79]

I had an hst myself, but if it wasnt for gc case i would have been convinced that hst is just a more optimal and less invasive redistribution of hair. However, his case puts doubts on the idea that there is no regeneration.

yes, donor looks great after 4 HST and still we are not 9 months post-op, there will be some more regrowth to come... well done!!!

Still I receive NO ANSWER from HASCI, this silence does not help for trust.

[cocacola]

I had an hst myself, but if it wasnt for gc case i would have been convinced that hst is just a more optimal and less invasive redistribution of hair. However, his case puts doubts on the idea that there is no regeneration.

[Arashi]

Your case is a very strong indication that Dr. Gho is legit, thanks for sharing it with us.

Take a look at the photo's. Try to guestimate the size of the recipient area and the amount of hair per cm2. So, thats how many hairs he's gotten there now ? And would that same result have been impossible with FUE ?

[Hair123]

I've taken some pics last night and today of my donor and a couple of pics of my recipient, one really close up which is kinda cool.

Donor area is worst above my right ear, however this area was more depleted than other areas last time too. The back seems fairly decent still, so I think theoretically I could take more from this area. I've got to cover up those scars too at some point, looks a mess the more I think about it!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5afwai9hurmxep/RDiyIXLVV7

donor looks good, recipient looks good!

considering you used to have ZERO hairs in a good part of the top of your scalp, those kind of results would be impossible to achieve without donor regeneration.

Your case is a very strong indication that Dr. Gho is legit, thanks for sharing it with us.

[gc83uk]

I've taken some pics last night and today of my donor and a couple of pics of my recipient, one really close up which is kinda cool.

Donor area is worst above my right ear, however this area was more depleted than other areas last time too. The back seems fairly decent still, so I think theoretically I could take more from this area. I've got to cover up those scars too at some point, looks a mess the more I think about it!

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/s5afwai9hurmxep/RDiyIXLVV7

[caddarik79]

Hi Caddarik, yes I will do this for you and the forum, no probs!

I'll put something up in a few days, hair needs to be shorter than it is now to make a proper comparison with the before picture.

Thank you Gaz, very much appriciated, I am still waiting for an answer from Gho (remember I've sent an e-mail about all the controversial threads on regeneration and yield?)

Received an holding reply from Pierre the french correspondant who assured me he forwarded my 3 mails to Gho in person and that Gho will either answer here, or to me or to Pierre.


i'd like to clarify the thing... I'm optimistic with your result especially that you have an extra session planned in May + to me, from the pics pre HST, aerata is one thing bit you don't seem to be touche by MBP, your hair in the back and hairline seem to be the same everywhere, not thinning... so, your slick area needed some coverage which you have now... it can only go better and better... and reading you from the beginning, I have to say that you are one of the person here I appreciate the most for his apporach to people in the forum, your smartness, your kindness, and sometimes jokes... I wish you the best result possible, new life and to keep in touch with us.


I also sent an email to Mwamba, I live in Belgium and met him twice, he is a good doctor, honest, I had a two hours talk about options in 2011 for FREE and he showed always some available and ready and willing to do the best postionning.

I have this good impression that hair loss is on its way to be cure surgically, your example is encouraging... I am like Arashi, I will temporise, mbp is different than aerata.... you took the right decision.

Cheers mate

[gc83uk]

Hey Gaz,

I remember seeing a very clear and good pic of your donor last year before your third HST.
Can you do exactly the same pics of your donor now, so that we can compare the situation in donor and see if these 1800 grafts left you big gaps with no hair or if it looks like you only maybe lost 15% of it.

Thank you,

Recipient looks cool so far.

But a side by side of these two donor pics will be eloquent.

Hi Caddarik, yes I will do this for you and the forum, no probs!

I'll put something up in a few days, hair needs to be shorter than it is now to make a proper comparison with the before picture.

[caddarik79]

what's wrong with this thread? aren't we supposed to compare and figure out about the donor?


BTW, I am still waiting for a Gho answer, Pierre assured me he forwarded my three e-mails, I also sent links to this forum to make them conscious on how heavily controversed they are.... even more than ever.

[caddarik79]

Hey Gaz,

I remember seeing a very clear and good pic of your donor last year before your third HST.
Can you do exactly the same pics of your donor now, so that we can compare the situation in donor and see if these 1800 grafts left you big gaps with no hair or if it looks like you only maybe lost 15% of it.

Thank you,

Recipient looks cool so far.

But a side by side of these two donor pics will be eloquent.