a second HST session in september

[hellouser]

50cm2

Do you think its fair to assume that with an 1,800 graft procedure for an NW2/3, 25cm2 could be used on the hairline and the remaining 25cm2 used to fill in the temples to bring back down to NW1/2?

[hellouser]

Don't u mean 5cm2?

I've never seen anyone pack 1,800 grafts into more or less a 2cm x 2cm area.

50cm2 is correct.

[sausage]

50cm2

Don't u mean 5cm2?

[gc83uk]

How much of the head does 1800 grafts cover?

50cm2

[sausage]

How much of the head does 1800 grafts cover?

[Vox]

The only way, to get what you "suggested", would/could be

1) a kind of CONTRACT with the HSI; that means, you undersign a contract, for let's say at least 3 or 4 procedures to get the "benefit" of the lower price per graft.

2) Another suggestion would be that as soon as you go for a 2nd, 3rd etc session (without any contract), you will simply get a better price per graft - or something.

Anyway, unfortunately, all these suggestions are currently NOT the case (you have always to pay the current price per graft!) - at least to the best of my knowledge.

This would be a reasonable approach for high NW patients that need many procedures. If the patient wanted so, the clinic should offer him a long term plan for hair restoration, under contract, at prices much better than the current pricing scheme lets you reckon. But as long as there is no serious competition, I am afraid that nothing will change.

[sausage]

Yes I did everything via email. I also sent them some photos and within a few weeks I went down to London.

If you don't hear back from web-form then I'll give you the email address of Deborah who usually emails back within a few hours.

All the best.

ok, sweet. Cheers.

Good to hear that waiting times for consultations are short.

[gc83uk]

I might try to clear the cache some other time. I tried a different browser...no luck....I tried filling in a consultation on their foreign sites and no luck either.....

how did you book your consultation....did u do it through the form?

Yes, in the email I have asked the same sort of questions so will let you know if I get any sort of response....

Yes I did everything via email. I also sent them some photos and within a few weeks I went down to London.

If you don't hear back from web-form then I'll give you the email address of Deborah who usually emails back within a few hours.

All the best.

[sausage]

Not having any browser problems here, I've just clicked about 20 odd links on their site. Might be worth clearing your cache or using a second browser to see if it's local or not!

You're asking smart questions, so hopefully you've sent all these in an email to HASCI, do me a favour post them here when you get a reply plz.

Like I said before though, if you wanted 3000 in one day, then you would have to tell them that you want 3000 or nothing kinda thing, but I'm damn sure that they'll say you may compromise the donor regrowth because of the number extractions, it'll be a blood bath. Acceptable for FUE, but HST is different!

If you have a large head/donor area then the extractions won't be so close to each other hence the 3000 figure would probably be possible.

This is just what I think!

I might try to clear the cache some other time. I tried a different browser...no luck....I tried filling in a consultation on their foreign sites and no luck either.....

how did you book your consultation....did u do it through the form?

Yes, in the email I have asked the same sort of questions so will let you know if I get any sort of response....

[gc83uk]

ok, what about 2nd, 3rd, 4th procedures........I assume if you are saying they a precautionary with the 1st procedure then if the 1st procedure went well they would go up to 3000 grafts in one day if the patient wanted.

The website is hit and miss with me, sometimes pages do not load, the consultation/email form errors every time I try it.....so I have just sent an email to their London email via hotmail.

Not having any browser problems here, I've just clicked about 20 odd links on their site. Might be worth clearing your cache or using a second browser to see if it's local or not!

You're asking smart questions, so hopefully you've sent all these in an email to HASCI, do me a favour post them here when you get a reply plz.

Like I said before though, if you wanted 3000 in one day, then you would have to tell them that you want 3000 or nothing kinda thing, but I'm damn sure that they'll say you may compromise the donor regrowth because of the number extractions, it'll be a blood bath. Acceptable for FUE, but HST is different!

If you have a large head/donor area then the extractions won't be so close to each other hence the 3000 figure would probably be possible.

This is just what I think!

[sausage]

What your saying here has probably crossed most peoples mind at some point. I would bet that most who have seen Gho have wanted more grafts than they ended up receiving. I even seem to remember Iron Man wanting more, but ended up with 1600 approx. It seems to be a precautionary measure on the first procedure.

Not sure what else I can say on that to help you more than I already have.

As for the false advertising thing. I know for a fact they have done 2500 grafts on one patient in 1 day, that was a couple of years ago when I heard about that, so I'm presuming for them to even mention 3000 grafts then they must have done so, otherwise like you said it is false advertising. When I pushed for more info, they said for such cases the donor would need to be large and in good condition.

Make of that what you will. Best thing is to contact them and post their answer here. The more info the better.

And the rates link works fine for me!

ok, what about 2nd, 3rd, 4th procedures........I assume if you are saying they a precautionary with the 1st procedure then if the 1st procedure went well they would go up to 3000 grafts in one day if the patient wanted.

The website is hit and miss with me, sometimes pages do not load, the consultation/email form errors every time I try it.....so I have just sent an email to their London email via hotmail.

[gc83uk]

If this is the case...I don't really understand why they are so against doing 3000 grafts in one session.......why I hear you ask.......

Just go on their website.....

First of all click on 'Hair Stem Cell Transplantation'. Scroll to the bottom of the page. Look at the table they have created showing how HST compares to FUE and FUT.........Look under 'Maximum grafts per day' and it says 3000. If they are not keen or don't do up to 3000 grafts a day then this is false advertising and concerns me that other things they claim may be false too.

And also as I have already mentioned, their pricing chart goes up to 3000 grafts and gets cheaper after having 1800, how can any customer (who needs over 1800 grafts) take advantage of these cheaper grafts if the clinic only do up do 1800 grafts.

I understand I will need to get in contact with HASCI about this but just based on your experience and those of others it is a little concerning.

PS. Can anyone access the 'rates' page on the HASCI website, it has failed to open for me for the past 2 days.

Also, I am a NW6 so yes I need a lot of grafts. As Gho claims 85% regrowth then this method should be fine for me. Whereas surgeons doing FUE have told me they would only be able to extract 3000 grafts which isn't enough.....with Gho I can extract 6000 grafts and will only lose 15% of that due to the 85% regrowth, so I would lose just 900 grafts from the back of my head whereas FUE would have taken 3000 from me.

What your saying here has probably crossed most peoples mind at some point. I would bet that most who have seen Gho have wanted more grafts than they ended up receiving. I even seem to remember Iron Man wanting more, but ended up with 1600 approx. It seems to be a precautionary measure on the first procedure.

Not sure what else I can say on that to help you more than I already have.

As for the false advertising thing. I know for a fact they have done 2500 grafts on one patient in 1 day, that was a couple of years ago when I heard about that, so I'm presuming for them to even mention 3000 grafts then they must have done so, otherwise like you said it is false advertising. When I pushed for more info, they said for such cases the donor would need to be large and in good condition.

Make of that what you will. Best thing is to contact them and post their answer here. The more info the better.

And the rates link works fine for me!

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

anything less than 3000 i think is going to be waste of time and money

[sausage]

if they could do 3000 in one pass with 10000euro all i would do it ..more than once

It is more than that, it is £11,100 for 3000, that's if they actually allow you to pay like that which I would expect they do. But as GC said it seems they are very reluctant or don't even do 3000 grafts in one day even though it states that on their website.

If it was pay £8300 for 1800 grafts and £2,25 per graft thereafter up to as many grafts you are having over time then I would be up for getting this done.

As of yet their website is not working so I cannot book a consultation. Pfffft.

[TO YOUNG TO RETIRE]

if they could do 3000 in one pass with 10000euro all i would do it ..more than once