a second HST session in september

[didi]

Ok I missed this thread and I am not going to read through 11 pages of what is probably nonsense, so if anyone asked this then forgive me.

But if there is someone who has done what is quoted here why haven't we seen before and after shots? This would essentially be something close to a full restoration and more or less prove HST's claims. I would expect this result to be plastered everywhere, sooooo where is the proof to back up this claim?

11500 hst grafts equals 7000 FUE/FUT grafts , number of hairs is more important than number of grafts, H&W does it all the time, 7000 grafts is nowhere near enough to give high NW full head of hair, illusion at best

even if this '11500' case is true its not impressive at all and that's the best case they got after 8 years of doubling

[greatjob!]

My french speaking correspondant there confirmed me a 11.540 grafts patient who got 9 procedures

Ok I missed this thread and I am not going to read through 11 pages of what is probably nonsense, so if anyone asked this then forgive me.

But if there is someone who has done what is quoted here why haven't we seen before and after shots? This would essentially be something close to a full restoration and more or less prove HST's claims. I would expect this result to be plastered everywhere, sooooo where is the proof to back up this claim?

[Vox]

I don't think daughters care how their dads look, I am not surprised they would see a hair transplant as unnecessary, an unnecessary waste of money, and unnecessary risk.......daughters would be worried about a father going under the knife.

I was not clear enough: she said that she does not want to see me change. Parents are for children THE reference, so they better stay invariable for as long as possible. I will not forget either the comments she made even months after I changed my old eyeglasses. Yes, it took her months to accept even such a simple thing. I observe generally that changes on me can alarm her.

I don't know how old you are but it does surprise me that anyone over 50 would bother getting a HT but it obviously effects them too, even though they are most likely settled down, not expected to have hair.....

Older generations getting upset about hairloss puts it into perspective how horrendous it is for people in their teens and 20's who have to deal with this shit.

I have not really any intention to get a HT, I was just fooling around with them by curiosity to see what is their position in this. What a HT can anyway do to NW7 head? Nothing, except for ruining the natural slick look if something goes not that well. But as I said in the other thread, I want my hair back for its primitive and most important role, that is protection.

[sausage]

It almost sounds too rude to be true.

You mentioned she wasn't attractive... maybe in a weird twisted way she was trying to lower your self confidence to make herself a worthy candidate?

Either way, I can't stand people like that. They have no tact.

Yeah, I don't get it.

I'd never start a convo with a girl in that manner, if I did my balls would be crushed. As a normal polite human being I would not even fathom doing that so why would anyone else.

She did look like she was in her early 30's and she probably hadn't had any action in a while.....realised she wasn't particularly attractive and like you say, tried to lower my self esteem to try to say I was in her 5th division league, not the Premier League.

I don't really know what the **** her game was. It has just really got to me.

[sanook]

I would say it takes more than '2' off. it at least takes 50% off your looks.

I just wrote a new thread about an experience I had last night which pretty sums up everything.

I went out to town last night. A girl started a conversation with me and my mates, she basically in the bluntest of ways said I was not good looking enough for another bar in town which I said I went to earlier in the night......yes, I should have shafted a sharp object up her vagina at that point!!!!!! she did not say it in a nasty tone, but she said it, she pretty much said she wasn't good enough for that pub as well......and to be honest she wasn't attractive but I wasn't an asshole like her and did not say that to her.....weirdly I think she was coming onto me as she was asking me to come to a bar where she worked and got a bit flirty.....stupid bitch, abusing me then cracking onto me, I dunno what the **** she was playing at.....

Whereas in the past, when I had hair, I had attractive girls come up to me.......now I am very bald........an ugly girl straight out gives me shit cos I'm bald...

It is a complete 360 degree turn from where I was when I had hair...

THERE IS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE YOU AS A BALD MAN.

It almost sounds too rude to be true.

You mentioned she wasn't attractive... maybe in a weird twisted way she was trying to lower your self confidence to make herself a worthy candidate?

Either way, I can't stand people like that. They have no tact.

[elvispresley]

Dr Nigam doesn't want to share his technique with Indian surgeons,

I though he would be more open about it, I don't want him to become like Gho and refuse to share it


Then when you talk to these Indian doctors they think Dr Nigam is bogus



dr Mwamba/Cole should look into this asap

when i say share i mean share the info result and dialog with people.
sharing the tecnique is very difficult in this world of moneycentrisism.
for me at the moment he has the best approach.
sharing the result ,be constantly answering the community is good enough for me. is respectful and he is asking respect to other doctors , still imho

[didi]

imho :

gho: is to expensive

nigam : still no results but very open (is why i like him because he goes against the common MONEYCENTERED style of others doctors),
so also if after 6,10 months will fail , he still did a good job by going against the flow.

we have so many options coming and we will find something quicker ONLY if the doctors start to put away their MONEYCENTRISM (or proud or whatever) like Nigam is doing .

anyway i repeat the most important thing is to be UNITE and SHARING .
all the bad comments from users go against the final goal.

we can do it.

Dr Nigam doesn't want to share his technique with Indian surgeons,

I though he would be more open about it, I don't want him to become like Gho and refuse to share it


Then when you talk to these Indian doctors they think Dr Nigam is bogus



dr Mwamba/Cole should look into this asap

[elvispresley]

imho :

gho: is to expensive

nigam : still no results but very open (is why i like him because he goes against the common MONEYCENTERED style of others doctors),
so also if after 6,10 months will fail , he still did a good job by going against the flow.

we have so many options coming and we will find something quicker ONLY if the doctors start to put away their MONEYCENTRISM (or proud or whatever) like Nigam is doing .

anyway i repeat the most important thing is to be UNITE and SHARING .
all the bad comments from users go against the final goal.

we can do it.

[sausage]

Bald guys have it much tougher in dating game, no one can deny it, hair loss takes off 2 points easily. If you are say 5 (average looking),hair loss makes you 3...3 doesn't cut it these days,

its even worse to be nw5/6 in 20s, younger girls wont date shiny bald guys, of course there are exceptions but you knw what im talking abt,

if you are 7 with hair, baldness turns you into 5...you become very average looking guy with no hair..its all about making good first impression, be it online, on the street or bar...


im not surprised so many guys go crazy about losing hair and end up spending so much money on HTs and other fixes

I would say it takes more than '2' off. it at least takes 50% off your looks.

I just wrote a new thread about an experience I had last night which pretty sums up everything.

I went out to town last night. A girl started a conversation with me and my mates, she basically in the bluntest of ways said I was not good looking enough for another bar in town which I said I went to earlier in the night......yes, I should have shafted a sharp object up her vagina at that point!!!!!! she did not say it in a nasty tone, but she said it, she pretty much said she wasn't good enough for that pub as well......and to be honest she wasn't attractive but I wasn't an asshole like her and did not say that to her.....weirdly I think she was coming onto me as she was asking me to come to a bar where she worked and got a bit flirty.....stupid bitch, abusing me then cracking onto me, I dunno what the **** she was playing at.....

Whereas in the past, when I had hair, I had attractive girls come up to me.......now I am very bald........an ugly girl straight out gives me shit cos I'm bald...

It is a complete 360 degree turn from where I was when I had hair...

THERE IS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE IN HOW PEOPLE PERCEIVE YOU AS A BALD MAN.

[didi]

Bald guys have it much tougher in dating game, no one can deny it, hair loss takes off 2 points easily. If you are say 5 (average looking),hair loss makes you 3...3 doesn't cut it these days,

its even worse to be nw5/6 in 20s, younger girls wont date shiny bald guys, of course there are exceptions but you knw what im talking abt,

if you are 7 with hair, baldness turns you into 5...you become very average looking guy with no hair..its all about making good first impression, be it online, on the street or bar...


im not surprised so many guys go crazy about losing hair and end up spending so much money on HTs and other fixes

[sausage]

In all my respect to everyone who suffers from advanced hairloss at a young age i dont think its the main thing that prevents people from finding a significant one. I see tons of baldies with girls and i know personally many guys with full heads that have difficulty getting girls, and they are not physically ugly at all. Its mostly about your attitude. Sure looks count a lot too and hairloss will probably take off a point or two from you, but you dont become a 0/10.

It takes a massive chunk out of me. You can tell what people think about you as blokes take the piss all the time. Hairloss makes a massive difference to how someone looks. When I had hair I used to be told I looked like Elijah Wood who is not a bad looking guy.....now I get told I look like Moby.

I mean, who the **** wants to go out with Moby.

[cocacola]

In all my respect to everyone who suffers from advanced hairloss at a young age i dont think its the main thing that prevents people from finding a significant one. I see tons of baldies with girls and i know personally many guys with full heads that have difficulty getting girls, and they are not physically ugly at all. Its mostly about your attitude. Sure looks count a lot too and hairloss will probably take off a point or two from you, but you dont become a 0/10.

[sausage]

This is very interesting and I will add my own experience. I told one day my family (wife + teen daughter) that I am considering a HST and explained the specifics. Just to see what they say. Guess what, the one who reacted immediately was my daughter. She did not want to see me with hair (!) because I have been bald since when she was 2-3 old, so she has no memory of hair on my head. Well, my wife also was negative, for her own reasons.

Incredible in my mind but true, and in line with the theory of the bald role model. I guess this makes a big part of how this curse survived in our days.

I don't think daughters care how their dads look, I am not surprised they would see a hair transplant as unnecessary, an unnecessary waste of money, and unnecessary risk.......daughters would be worried about a father going under the knife.

I don't know how old you are but it does surprise me that anyone over 50 would bother getting a HT but it obviously effects them too, even though they are most likely settled down, not expected to have hair.....

Older generations getting upset about hairloss puts it into perspective how horrendous it is for people in their teens and 20's who have to deal with this shit.

[Vox]

Also I've found that some of the really good looking girls I have been with that didn't care at all about hair, had bald dads! To them it was a non-issue because they grew up with a bald role model.

This is very interesting and I will add my own experience. I told one day my family (wife + teen daughter) that I am considering a HST and explained the specifics. Just to see what they say. Guess what, the one who reacted immediately was my daughter. She did not want to see me with hair (!) because I have been bald since when she was 2-3 old, so she has no memory of hair on my head. Well, my wife also was negative, for her own reasons.

Incredible in my mind but true, and in line with the theory of the bald role model. I guess this makes a big part of how this curse survived in our days.

[sausage]

I am not aiming for density, ideally I am looking for a receded temple look, with thinning, a typical balding shaved down look similar to Wesley Sneijder and Freddie Lunjberg, see photos below.

Basically avoiding the slaphead look and giving me some sort of framing to my face. I still have a little hair on top but not much. I currently keep at buzzed.

Wesley Sneijder: This buzzed to a grade 1 and the more bald areas covered in SMP would look good.


Freddie Lunjberg:


RIGHT.....what can I achieve with these first 1400 grafts with GHO........look at these images below (I AM REFERRING TO THE TOP TWO IMAGES).....draw an imaginary line from receded temple to receded temple, I think I could achieve that frontal section at that density, maybe a bit more...feathered back....getting thinner as it goes back to blend into the rest of my thinning scalp and then I'll get SMP at a similar density into the rest of the scalp. I still have some hair to give texture to the crown and will possibly go for a 1400 graft spattering in future.



Why is this a great idea for me:

FUT is out of the question for me, FUE is too expensive and I am not a good candidate, repeated Gho treatments is expensive and would take years, SMP alone IMO does not look realistic enough, especially hairlines.

A mixture of FUE and SMP IMO would work as I still think you need the 3D texture hair gives but I think the SMP would need to be put in sparsely so not to heavily outweigh the hair. The majority of the transplanted hair should be placed in the hairline as this frames your look, and is the point where people look at you, whereas the top of the head is not so important as people are not looking at the top of your head unless you are sitting down. Although I think with a spattering of hair mixed in with SMP the crown will look fine.

I think this is now my plan..........what concerns me the most is that the gho clinic may not like my idea.