HASCI - New Website!

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Breaking Bald
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 598

    #16
    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    Yeah, disappointing.
    +1

    Crappy results

    Comment

    • 25 going on 65
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 1476

      #17
      I have held my tongue on this for awhile, but the more time goes on, the more I am disappointed that they still do not have any cosmetically impressive results

      Comment

      • garethbale
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 603

        #18
        They have a very small range of results and none are particularly impressive.

        If they pluck part of the hair and leave part intact, then presumably they can harvest the same area again. Logic states that this would mean results with excellent coverage and good density (at least twice as good as tradional HTs), yet the pictures show small areas that have been treated and don't look any more dense (probably less dense) than traditional HT results.

        I don't get it. I am convinced about the lack of scarring and quick healing but far from convinced on the results. Wesley Sneijder is the only one I'm impressed with.

        Comment

        • yeahyeahyeah
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1776

          #19
          Originally posted by Kiwi
          I think it's the same for all HT docs mate.

          You can't make 4000 hairs look like your original density of a hundred thousand hairs.

          So in the sense that you've only got limited donor, and if Gho does have it so donor regenerates then you'd be mad to get a normal HT.

          If only all docs used the Gho technique and he freely shared this technique - it'd be a better world for all of us right now.
          Go to Rahal's web site and look at his results.

          Heck - look at Spex's results.

          Either I am severely mislead, or you can do it.

          These guys after a HT, still look like they are balding.

          Comment

          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #20
            That whole photo section on the site is pretty worthless IMHO. Without knowing how many grafts were transplanted, how can you even judge any of those pictures ? Some of the pictures would be simply stunning if the patient got 600 grafts, but would be really disappointing if if were 6000.

            Comment

            • Artista
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 2070

              #21
              That certainly is an impressive website. I must admit that, to this day, i have not researched Dr Gho's procedures fully.
              Lets see where this goes.

              Comment

              • garethbale
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 603

                #22
                Originally posted by Arashi
                That whole photo section on the site is pretty worthless IMHO. Without knowing how many grafts were transplanted, how can you even judge any of those pictures ? Some of the pictures would be simply stunning if the patient got 600 grafts, but would be really disappointing if if were 6000.
                Arashi

                In your opinion, why do you think they publish such average results when there have clearly been better results posted on various forums and there must be better ones elsewhere, given Gho's extensive number of patients?

                Comment

                • Artista
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2070

                  #23
                  As far as Im concerned, I look for an IMPROVEMENT to my hair loss, NOT for a 'cure'...Those photos show DECENT IMPROVEMENTS to hair loss.
                  Im not saying that this is the way to go,,Im just commenting on its imagery itself

                  Comment

                  • Arashi
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 3888

                    #24
                    Originally posted by garethbale
                    Arashi

                    In your opinion, why do you think they publish such average results when there have clearly been better results posted on various forums and there must be better ones elsewhere, given Gho's extensive number of patients?
                    It beats me. Maybe they want to give a realistic impression of what can be attained with, for example, 1000-1600 grafts. But then, why don't they mention the number of grafts ?

                    All in all I think that photo section on their website is pretty bad as it is. If they just want to impress us with what can be done, given enough money then the section clearly failed, since none of the photo's show us anything that can't be done with regular FUE. Heck, like everybody says, there are better FUE results out there (from people who got 10k grafts, or even with 4k grafts some better results can be attained than any of these photo's show us).

                    If the goal of the section is to show us a realistic picture of what can be done with 1000-1600 grafts, they should at least mention the number of grafts.

                    Comment

                    • 25 going on 65
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1476

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      Heck, like everybody says, there are better FUE results out there (from people who got 10k grafts, or even with 4k grafts some better results can be attained than any of these photo's show us).
                      I would say 1-1.8k

                      Comment

                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        #26
                        If the results are for 1,000 - 1,800 grafts then I can live with those results given the low graft count. The procedure with Gho is bloody expensive as hell though. I mean suppose they did show complete NW6/7 to NW1 restoration... how badly would the public be turned off if they found out the price?

                        1,600 / typical procedure
                        Approx 10,000-15,000 grafts to cover NW6
                        Lets use 12,000 / 1,600 = 7.5 visits

                        At about $12,200 USD / visit (1,600 grafts) this 7 procedures would cost you a whopping $85,400 USD. And thats a MINIMUM. Space that 9 months apart and your waiting a little over FIVE YEARS (9 months apart per session). Are you really going to piss away $85,000+ and wait 5 years minimum just to get your hair back?

                        If Gho can do something to get it up to the 3,000 graft count for everyone, this would essentially bring the costs to about $16,000 USD per session but would only require 4 sessions, a total of 3 years in total $64,000.

                        Putting down the $15,000 for 1-3 procedures is perfectly fine, a couple touch-ups to restore a normal look is also fine, but to expect 7+ visits and wait so long and pay SO much is way out of reach for a huge majority of the public. Something HAS to be done about that.

                        Where the f*ck is Dr. Lauster's work?! Shouldn't we already have a cure available as a standard procedure when he grew artificial follicles in a petri dish over TWO YEARS AGO? What the hell is taking so long? Why are mens problems seen as such a JOKE?

                        Comment

                        • JJJJrS
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 638

                          #27
                          I don't know why they don't put the graft numbers there. Even the pictures are mostly the same ones from years back. If they really want to highlight their procedure, there's many pictures they could acquire from celebrities (Sneijder, Joling) and forum posters (tobban, nijmegen, gc, even neversaynever).

                          I think the results section on their site is something they could definitely improve on. To be fair though, I think it's better to put results like this rather than unrealistic, best-case scenarios or dense-packs on a NW2 like some other clinics do.

                          Comment

                          • aim4hair
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 437

                            #28
                            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                            Go to Rahal's web site and look at his results.

                            Heck - look at Spex's results.

                            Either I am severely mislead, or you can do it.

                            These guys after a HT, still look like they are balding.
                            Spex had 9 or 10 HTs
                            Most of the impressive results from H&W and Rahal are for ppl with 3000+
                            grafts.
                            I hope HASCI add the number of grafts for those results, cause if all of them had only one procedure with less than 2000 grafts, then i would say their results are pretty impressive for the number of grafts they received considering the advanced nw level they are at.

                            Comment

                            • yeahyeahyeah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1776

                              #29
                              Originally posted by aim4hair
                              Spex had 9 or 10 HTs
                              Most of the impressive results from H&W and Rahal are for ppl with 3000+
                              grafts.
                              I hope HASCI add the number of grafts for those results, cause if all of them had only one procedure with less than 2000 grafts, then i would say their results are pretty impressive for the number of grafts they received considering the advanced nw level they are at.
                              And whats your point?

                              Based on the photo gallery I am likely to choose rahal, ferundi over gho. Spex etc has proven that you can get a natural/dense looking result.

                              Gho should be showcasing his best results as well as his average ones...after a HT they all look like they are thinning. Making the procedure a waste of time.

                              Comment

                              • aim4hair
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 437

                                #30
                                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                                And whats your point?

                                Based on the photo gallery I am likely to choose rahal, ferundi over gho. Spex etc has proven that you can get a natural/dense looking result.

                                Gho should be showcasing his best results as well as his average ones...after a HT they all look like they are thinning. Making the procedure a waste of time.
                                dude my point is very simple, go to those doctors you mentioned and collect their results of those who had less than 2000 grafts on the same nw level. then you can compare.
                                it's ridiculous to compare an HT with 5000 grafts to another one with 1500 grafts... or a person who had 10 HTs with someone who had only one.

                                if you wanna get as much grafts as possible in one pass, and you are not concerned about donor limitation or scaring, then simply HST is not for you.

                                Comment

                                Working...