Dr. Nigam's fraudulent claims about Dr. Gho's work

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    #46
    Originally posted by drnigams
    Tomorrow,Arashi.
    Tomorrow? What will happen tomorrow?

    Even more fraudulent claims?
    And here is one of Dr. Nigam's extremely fraudulent claims about Dr. Gho's work... And here you can see in detail what Dr. Nigam, in fact, did in this photo: Dr. Nigam simply made lots of blue circles everywhere in an area behind neversaynever's ear - an area, which simply doesn't (naturally) have a high follicle density


    Hey man, buy a wig - or maybe Dr. Gho can do something for you against your hairloss....

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    • Boldy
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 287

      #47
      534623 DR Coen Gho sock puppet

      I wonder why the OP (534623) feel attacked, when there is a case of direct competition with DR. C Gho. ...

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      • 534623
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1854

        #48
        Originally posted by Boldy
        I wonder why the OP (534623) feel attacked, when there is a case of direct competition with DR. C Gho. ...
        Nigam a direct competition??

        To compare something - you must SEE something!

        btw - why do you always appear at the same time like Dr. Nigam??
        ...including your dermal papilla bullshit?

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        • 534623
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1854

          #49
          Originally posted by drnigams
          Here are neversaynever's "plucked hairs" (photo by Dr. Nigam - labeled by IronMan):

          Dear,534623,
          You did not do your home work properly.This pic of plucked graft is not of neversaynever , neither is it the plucked graft as you can see the roots clearly.
          hmmm, and you mean in neversaynever's case someone cannot see the "roots" in the photos you posted at HS?



          "plucked grafts" - pfffffffffffffffffffft....

          Seems what you (desperate) tried to perform in neversaynever's case is Dr. Gho's old FM procedure - namely called "Follicular Multiplication":

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          • Boldy
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2013
            • 287

            #50
            534623 coen gho's sock puppet.

            Because I find the pioneering work, that is better than the current technique we have here in the Netherlands, more than interesting. and regarding dermal papilla work, check this site out, this professor has created the cure.




            Its the cure, and there will be no need for hst/ other transplantation techniques.


            You have done a HST procedure and your hair looks wonderful! . In your case, I wouldn't be bothered with my hairloss, and would continue enjoy life to the fullest man! and leave all the forums behind me...



            your only job on this forum is bashing people and humiliate them. luckily no one takes you serious on this forum...

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            • gc83uk
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1339

              #51
              Originally posted by 534623
              Seems what you tried to perform in neversaynever's case is Dr. Gho's old FM procedure - namely called "Follicular Multiplication":
              This is what I'm heading towards with my questioning. It does seem like from his evidence so far that he is doing a form of FM.

              Anyone who doesn't know, FM was done by Gho between roughly 2000-2005, until he discovered HST.

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              • 534623
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1854

                #52
                Originally posted by gc83uk
                This is what I'm heading towards with my questioning. It does seem like from his evidence so far that he is doing a form of FM.

                Anyone who doesn't know, FM was done by Gho between roughly 2000-2005, until he discovered HST.
                Exactly ...


                ... and everything is explained in detail since more than 7 years.

                Oh, I forgot, someone like Nigam knows only they science of the past 7 month - which he picked up on hair loss forums.

                Guys, I mean seriously - besides Dr. Nigam's bold claims and photoshopped photos on his website, is here someone who could EVER see something legit and successful by Dr. Nigam?

                Pfffffffft...

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #53
                  Originally posted by drnigams
                  Tomorrow,Arashi.
                  Why tomorrow instead of right now ? Or do you need 1 day time to photoshop away 1 hair for every 2 hair grafts ?

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                  • drnigams
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 551

                    #54
                    GC,
                    Let me explain what HST does, ironman can correct me where i am wrong or if he knows something extra as he claims.
                    First in layman terms HST and my donor doubling is similar except HST uses triple wave needle or punch0.5mm to extract the partial follicular unit(as the graft is wider than .5mm needle) most probably at the level of dermal papilla by going deep(3.5mm to 4mm) into the dermis.
                    We go only 1mm deep to first loosen the follicular unit and than pluck the graft with a forcep or tweezer to extract 3/4th follicle.Hence less chance of any mark.Some times we may pluck the right length sometimes not.HST also have suitable grafts and unsuitable grafts.
                    HST sometimes need more drills than one to extract a graft.This is not the case with us.
                    HST claims as per their patent that since the graft is bisected or broken,it leads to activation of hair stemcells due to wound healing and ecm in their preservation medium(if ecm alone can activate follicles,we can do plucking follicles or dermaroller for wound creation and inject acell).They also claim that the extracellular matrix they add into their preservation medium along with the other buffering,nutritional factors ,is thier cococola secret formula(thats what they responde to by mail ) leads to activation of follicle stemcells and the resident stemcells of the sorrounding tissue.
                    None of this is true but a marketing tool to to capitalise on the popular word stemcell multiplication.I do not believe like most of the other ht docs that this is true ,stemcells do not get activated and multiplied to create new follicles just by dipping in the preservation medium for 2 hours.And for wounding based cativation of stemcells there are simpler methods.Although it has been proven by jahoda that the plucked follicles can have 60% regeneration when implanted although as thin hair.
                    We believe we have an advantage with our lab and softer regulations wherein we can send some body hair or scalp hair for isolation and activation of all the stemcells present in the follicle(and after 6 weeks multiplied stemcells) and sorrounding tissue and their subsequent injection into the bisected follicle and or follicular units.
                    We also believe we have an advantage of growth factor and isolated dp cells(2 months from now dp culture) injection into the grafts because of softer regulation which is easy but unfortunately not regulatory wise possible for HST.
                    Ofcourse both of us add ecm,buffers,nutritional factors and other stuff into the preservation medium in which grafts are left if required.
                    Since in our technique we do not disturb the dermal papilla with it's intact blood supply(i do not know regarding this part what hst does) there is 95 to 100% potential, except human error wherein donor should regenerate totally.
                    There is again a common misconception that HST bisects the follicle(i am not saying follicular unit) longitudnally as they show in their drawn representative pictures.But check their actual histological slide in their published article ,you will see longitudnal bisection like partial fue of follicular unit and not the actual single follicle.
                    Further you mail me at dr.rahul1970@gmail.com wherein i give you my skype id to chat one on one to explain you in simple terms for any further clarification.


                    unit
                    Originally posted by gc83uk
                    Thanks, but I'm still not clear. Can you explain to me how the procedure used on NSN is different to HST?

                    The answer you gave above, I don't know if this is a general explanation or in direct response to my last question asking you to compare HST and NSN procedure in a couple of sentences in Layman's terms.

                    I understand that because of the .5mm punch that some grafts are transected, this I understand. But I just want to understand in a sentence or two the main differences.

                    So much has been written I just don't know what day it is anymore

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                    • drnigams
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2012
                      • 551

                      #55
                      Arashi,
                      You are a bad one..it is 4.22am in the morning here and pic upload is done by my media team not me.come on these pics are already loaded 5 days back at HS ,you can always counter check.
                      Originally posted by Arashi
                      Why tomorrow instead of right now ? Or do you need 1 day time to photoshop away 1 hair for every 2 hair grafts ?

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #56
                        Originally posted by drnigams
                        Arashi,
                        You are a bad one..it is 4.22am in the morning here and pic upload is done by my media team not me.come on these pics are already loaded 5 days back at HS ,you can always counter check.
                        Yeah I'm just loading that webpage, but again, since you hotlinked 2 popular forums to multiple highres photo's on you own website, you've created your own DOS botnet attack on your own website. It's therefore slow as hell, Chrome just chrashes, IE seems to be loading bit by bit, but it's taking forever. Hopefully I'll have the pictures within half an hour.

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                        • Boldy
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 287

                          #57
                          @ nigams, Its better to use http://imageshack.us/

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                          • Boldy
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 287

                            #58
                            534623 coen gho's sock puppet.

                            Because I find the pioneering work, that is better than the current technique we have here in the Netherlands, more than interesting. and regarding dermal papilla work, check this site out, this professor has created the cure.




                            Its the cure, and there will be no need for hst/ other transplantation techniques.


                            You have done a HST procedure and your hair looks wonderful! . In your case, I wouldn't be bothered with my hairloss, and would continue enjoy life to the fullest man! and leave all the forums behind me...



                            your only job on this forum is bashing people and humiliate them. luckily no one takes you serious on this forum...

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Boldy
                              534623 coen gho's sock puppet.

                              Because I find the pioneering work, that is better than the current technique we have here in the Netherlands, more than interesting. and regarding dermal papilla work, check this site out, this professor has created the cure.




                              Its the cure, and there will be no need for hst/ other transplantation techniques.


                              You have done a HST procedure and your hair looks wonderful! . In your case, I wouldn't be bothered with my hairloss, and would continue enjoy life to the fullest man! and leave all the forums behind me...



                              your only job on this forum is bashing people and humiliate them. luckily no one takes you serious on this forum...
                              Bendegij Nederlands ? Woar woondegij ?

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #60
                                Hehe ik denk ik schrijf in een dialect, dan kan je geen online translator gebruiken, maar zelfs dialect kan je blijkbaar tegenwoordig gewoon online vertalen zie ik net

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