Dr. Nigam's fraudulent claims about Dr. Gho's work

[drnigams]

Ironman,
You are a knowledgeable person,can't you make out from your common sense that how can in vivo extraction of nsn have grafts with hair root.
This is the pic of the invitro doubling of the doctor which i have posted in both bald truth and HS,as shown in the invitro case below by yourself.
By the statement'this is a referance pic of nsn ' i posted in invtro case thread was to compare the grafts of nsn(invivo doubling) and the doctors(invitrodoubling)
I had a great respect for you ironman...lets take the challenge who wins by the christmas of 2013.
I respect you professionally,i am learning better presentation from you and gc
but you are either a biased guy or paid by HST.Lets keep it healthy..let the real truth come out and let the true guy win....!

fromQUOTE=534623;111745]Oh really? I did not do my homework properly??

Let my kindly check...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=111643&postcount=1

hmmm, maybe you meant with "nsn" in fact "Nigams Scam Notification" case or something ...

Dear Dr. Nigam,
why don't you simply **** OFF ...[/QUOTE]

[gc83uk]

Dr Nigam, kindly address the transected follicle picture and let us know whether it is yourself or Ironman that didn't do their home work?

Regarding the transected follicle, this means only 1 of the 2 hair fu will grow in the recipient and the remaining root/dp of the follicle will remain in the donor area right? I think this is commonly called donor splitting? Please confirm.

[534623]

Ironman,
You are a knowledgeable person,can't you make out from your common sense that how can in vivo extraction of nsn have grafts with hair root.

How? Why should the extrated grafts not have their hair roots attached?

This is the pic of the invitro doubling of the doctor which i have posted in both bald truth and HS,as shown in the invitro case below by yourself.
By the statement'this is a referance pic of nsn ' i posted in invtro case thread was to compare the grafts of nsn(invivo doubling) and the doctors(invitrodoubling)

Sorry mister,
but I'm not the one who labeled the pic with "this IS a reference pic of nsn case". That's simply how you labeled the pic! And therefore the pic simply shows the case of neversaynever - what else??

You mean I should read it as "this pic is a reference pic which does NOT show neversaynever's case" - or what??

btw - "REFERENCE" - nsn's grafts pic should serve as "reference" to what exactly??
Every photo you posted in your thread show grafts with the same characteristics! That means, nowhere can I see a photo with "plucked hairs". And yeah, I know how plucked hairs look like.

[Arashi]

Dr Nigam, kindly address the transected follicle picture and let us know whether it is yourself or Ironman that didn't do their home work?

Regarding the transected follicle, this means only 1 of the 2 hair fu will grow in the recipient and the remaining root/dp of the follicle will remain in the donor area right? I think this is commonly called donor splitting? Please confirm.

That's why he doesn't post a picture of NSN's scalp prior to surgery. He'll claim victory and '100% regrowth', where all he really did was just split grafts.

[534623]

That's why he doesn't post a picture of NSN's scalp prior to surgery. He'll claim victory and '100% regrowth', where all he really did was just split grafts.

he he - good point!

So why didn't he simply use this photo ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=111677&postcount=1

... as reference-BEFORE photo??

Ah, I forgot - Dr. Nigam couldn't extract new grafts anymore in this area, because Dr. Gho fücked this area completely up with white dots, scarring and hairless gaps... - as fraudulently claimed by Dr. Nigam.

[drnigams]

GC,
I like cirtical analyses of ironman.
But is he ready to accept you as judge and has he ever in the forum claimed he was wrong..i don't think so.
That is what learned men,and researchers do.
Gc please see it yourself these pics are of invitro extraction of grafts for doubling.wherein aall the grafts in that case are implanted at the recipient.Where does the question arises of donor regeneration in this case.
As in normal fue if we use .5mm punch for extraction of wider graft ,there will be transection of grafts,We will get less grafts to double.But the transected graft is not wasted ,as the root is intact with blood supply at the donor.To avoid transection of grafts in invitro doubling extraction , i will have to use wider punch which may result in white fue dots.
This is the pic in my presentation of invitro hair doubling and not the pics i presented for nsn invivo donor doubling.

Dr Nigam, kindly address the transected follicle picture and let us know whether it is yourself or Ironman that didn't do their home work?

Regarding the transected follicle, this means only 1 of the 2 hair fu will grow in the recipient and the remaining root/dp of the follicle will remain in the donor area right? I think this is commonly called donor splitting? Please confirm.

[drnigams]

Arashi,
You need to see an opthalmologist.
All the before pics of nsn scalp(reciepient and donor) are posted both on HS and TBT.

That's why he doesn't post a picture of NSN's scalp prior to surgery. He'll claim victory and '100% regrowth', where all he really did was just split grafts.

[Arashi]

Arashi,
You need to see an opthalmologist.
All the before pics of nsn scalp(reciepient and donor) are posted both on HS and TBT.

Your website (containing the pictures) is extremely slow, the pictures are not even loading now. It's probably because everytime a user refreshes a page on hairsite, it re-pulls the pictures from your site. Not a good idea to host them on your site and put the links on a forum. Next time better use a picture sharing host if you don't have good bandwith on your site.

Anyway, I recall you didn't post any high res pre-op photo's of the area you took the grafts from. If you did, I of course take my words back.

[gc83uk]

GC,
I like cirtical analyses of ironman.
But is he ready to accept you as judge and has he ever in the forum claimed he was wrong..i don't think so.
That is what learned men,and researchers do.
Gc please see it yourself these pics are of invitro extraction of grafts for doubling.wherein aall the grafts in that case are implanted at the recipient.Where does the question arises of donor regeneration in this case.
As in normal fue if we use .5mm punch for extraction of wider graft ,there will be transection of grafts,We will get less grafts to double.But the transected graft is not wasted ,as the root is intact with blood supply at the donor.To avoid transection of grafts in invitro doubling extraction , i will have to use wider punch which may result in white fue dots.
This is the pic in my presentation of invitro hair doubling and not the pics i presented for nsn invivo donor doubling.

OK, I have to admit I'm not quite up to speed on all the invitro/invivo terminology and other technical jargon used by experts in this field, however I'm starting to understand after a little googling!

Can I just concentrate on NSN case for a moment, I understand that NSN case was invivo, which if I'm not wrong is better suited to avoid white dots. This I understand fine. Can you explain to me in one sentence if you can in laymans terms: how invivo donor doubling on NSN differs to HST? Why it is better also?

I understand this may have been asked already!

[Arashi]

Arashi,
You need to see an opthalmologist.
All the before pics of nsn scalp(reciepient and donor) are posted both on HS and TBT.

I can't load that 1st page of the HS thread anymore, it's too slow and crashing my browser. Can you please link us to a pre-op highres photo of the donor area, including the birthmark, you've took the grafts from ?

[drnigams]

gc,
I am not splitting follicle but bisecting the grafts after extraction,few grafts may be transceted as i have to use .5mm punch to avoid white dots.I still prefer in vitro bisection rather than in vivo bisection as it is a blind procedure.Except in cases where the patient wants to do invivo plucking or bisection.
Not to forget the stemcells,isolated dp cells,growth factors ,ecm addition to these bisected grafts.We will do a 5 FU test documentation with counting of single,double or triple follicle graft as it is easier to document and follow up over a period of time,both for invitro and invivo technique.One such documentation with 5 single follicle and bisection i have already posted last month on HS,I will post that in tbt tomorrow.

[Arashi]

gc,
I am not splitting follicle but bisecting the grafts after extraction,few grafts may be transceted as i have to use .5mm punch to avoid white dots.I still prefer in vitro bisection rather than in vivo bisection as it is a blind procedure.Except in cases where the patient wants to do invivo plucking or bisection.
Not to forget the stemcells,isolated dp cells,growth factors ,ecm addition to these bisected grafts.We will do a 5 FU test documentation with counting of single,double or triple follicle graft as it is easier to document and follow up over a period of time,both for invitro and invivo technique.One such documentation with 5 single follicle and bisection i have already posted last month on HS,I will post that in tbt tomorrow.

All we need is a pre-op highres picture of the donor area, including the birthmark, you've taken the grafts from. Then we can see for ourselves if your technique yields 100% donor regrowth. After all the cheating, lying an manipulation I'd be extremely surprised, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

[gc83uk]

gc,
I am not splitting follicle but bisecting the grafts after extraction,few grafts may be transceted as i have to use .5mm punch to avoid white dots.I still prefer in vitro bisection rather than in vivo bisection as it is a blind procedure.Except in cases where the patient wants to do invivo plucking or bisection.
Not to forget the stemcells,isolated dp cells,growth factors ,ecm addition to these bisected grafts.We will do a 5 FU test documentation with counting of single,double or triple follicle graft as it is easier to document and follow up over a period of time,both for invitro and invivo technique.One such documentation with 5 single follicle and bisection i have already posted last month on HS,I will post that in tbt tomorrow.

Thanks, but I'm still not clear. Can you explain to me how the procedure used on NSN is different to HST?

The answer you gave above, I don't know if this is a general explanation or in direct response to my last question asking you to compare HST and NSN procedure in a couple of sentences in Layman's terms.

I understand that because of the .5mm punch that some grafts are transected, this I understand. But I just want to understand in a sentence or two the main differences.

So much has been written I just don't know what day it is anymore

[534623]

Thanks, but I'm still not clear. Can you explain to me how the procedure used on NSN is different to HST?

Do you really think the guy is able to explain in detail Dr. Gho's HST??

Pffffft - I could read his 'scientific explanations' on HairSite.

Concerning "hair" in general - they guy knows ZERO ZILCH NADA. Besides, what he picked up on hair loss forums during the past year or so.

I'm aware about lots of jerks in the hair transplant field, but this guy is simply THE king of jerks - without exaggeration!

[drnigams]

Tomorrow,Arashi.

I can't load that 1st page of the HS thread anymore, it's too slow and crashing my browser. Can you please link us to a pre-op highres photo of the donor area, including the birthmark, you've took the grafts from ?