Is this possible with HST?

[hellouser]

When I asked them, they said that you can calculate the maximum total grafts like this: 2nd procedure as many grafts as the first, after that 100 grafts less each time. So if you start with 1600 grafts, the total will be 1600+1600+1500+1400 etc.

Of course it's just an indication and it will vary from patient to patient.

Pft, thats way more than enough to get back to full coverage! Thanks for the heads up, definitely adds to the excitement with Gho

[Arashi]

What did they say when you asked them about infinity? (if 80% or more regenerate, then obviously it cant be infinity)

When I asked them, they said that you can calculate the maximum total grafts like this: 2nd procedure as many grafts as the first, after that 100 grafts less each time. So if you start with 1600 grafts, the total will be 1600+1600+1500+1400 etc.

Of course it's just an indication and it will vary from patient to patient.

[FearTheLoss]

Thanks man, I would be very interested in seeing your hairline before and after...I'm debating on going to Gho for my hairline and want to see some forum member results...

[hellouser]

I was about to program a second procedure for september or december but with all this skepticism and negativity about the technique, its reality etc... I sent an email to ask what can be achieved and if I can go infinitely (money apart)... that's where I kind of have the impression they cannot go as far as I imagined... I became a bit more defensive in my strategy...I don't want to rush if there are too much limits...

What did they say when you asked them about infinity? (if 80% or more regenerate, then obviously it cant be infinity)

[caddarik79]

sure I can :-)

I had one end of August this year, in Amsterdam.
I live in Belgium, so very close to them, very convenient, I also kind of understand dutch, although I have to practice a bit again.

I had 1800 grafts, transplanted on my frontal area.
I was Norwood 3, now looks like a good Norwood 2.

I'm at six months post op so I let another couple of months to see the final result.

Everything went smooth, they did not go to 2000 because one part of my back was more difficult for extraction, they did not push it which I appreciated, means that they care for regeneration.

The team is very professional, I had two extractors, Deborah and another who was fast with ten years experience, Deborah was slower but very cautious and friendly.

We even had a chat when she was digging holes in the second part of the day, I was talking about the treatment, the Grail each hair loss sufferer dreams about, the infinite donor, no limit to recover a NW1 etc...

We agreed that the coming years were promising, she said that it can only improve...I don't know if she said that only to make me happy, or if she meant it.

I was about to program a second procedure for september or december but with all this skepticism and negativity about the technique, its reality etc... I sent an email to ask what can be achieved and if I can go infinitely (money apart)... that's where I kind of have the impression they cannot go as far as I imagined... I became a bit more defensive in my strategy...I don't want to rush if there are too much limits...

My plan was to "Benjamin Buttonize" my head of hair if you follow me? and I was so relieved that hair multiplication was next door, I felt comfortable from one day to the other, establishing a yearly planning, strategy to go back to NW0... but I'm afraid it's not there yet.... so I backed up!!!

There is my story ;-)

PS: I never ever took any treatment, minox, finasteride, I always refused what I considerd as "fake solutions".

[hellouser]

in theory yes everyone should be able to get at least 20 000 grafts(real donor loss is only 4000 or 20%), in practice consider yourself lucky if you get 8 000 1.3 grafts


Iron Mans favorite formula 1+1=2 is showing sighns of weakness

its looking more like 0.5+0.5=1

If your theory of 0.5 + 0.5 = 1 is supposed to hold up, why did some of gc83uk's grafts get harvested TWICE and regenerate both times?

[FearTheLoss]

You keep on repeating something you are not sure about either.
it's as useless as IM arrogance.

Try to be more constructive, it's good that we have GC who is really documenting his case, we will follow his evolution, serves nothing to pretend what you pretend with no proof...

You only try to cope with your frustration by frustrating others... and IM on another hand cannot control his little hysterical enthusiasm and for I don't know what reason even manage to convert it into stupid and unecessaray arrogance, no one asks for that...

Definitely GC is the example of good forum member bringing loads of stuffs and taking it from his free time.
IM is also useful with his meticulous work but such a douche, you don't feel like thanking him anymore.

I hope some other people will bring their parts.
I will post pictures of recipient in two months.

cadd, you had an HST done? can you give details about your procedure? i.e. how many grafts, where was your hair loss..etc

[caddarik79]

You keep on repeating something you are not sure about either.
it's as useless as IM arrogance.

Try to be more constructive, it's good that we have GC who is really documenting his case, we will follow his evolution, serves nothing to pretend what you pretend with no proof...

You only try to cope with your frustration by frustrating others... and IM on another hand cannot control his little hysterical enthusiasm and for I don't know what reason even manage to convert it into stupid and unecessaray arrogance, no one asks for that...

Definitely GC is the example of good forum member bringing loads of stuffs and taking it from his free time.
IM is also useful with his meticulous work but such a douche, you don't feel like thanking him anymore.

I hope some other people will bring their parts.
I will post pictures of recipient in two months.

[didi]

in theory yes everyone should be able to get at least 20 000 grafts(real donor loss is only 4000 or 20&#37, in practice consider yourself lucky if you get 8 000 1.3 grafts


Iron Mans favorite formula 1+1=2 is showing sighns of weakness

its looking more like 0.5+0.5=1

[caddarik79]

the thing is that in theory, they should be able to double the entire horse shoe at least once.

Considering they would always harvest different and untouched hair? I don't know, by using magnifying glass, they should see the difference, no?

means that if a horseshoe is 16.000, they should at least be able to reproduce one entire horseshoe, leaving you a 80% horseshoe in the donor...

And then from 16.000, you ask to do three or four more, to reach the biggest density ever.

You might end up with 12000 in the back and sides and 19000 on top?

No?

[didi]

When they say typically a person has between 6-8,000 donor grafts, does that mean that beyond the NW6/7 balding area there are only between 12-16,000 grafts in total? I ask this because if 50% of hair must be lost for hair loss to be visible, is that then the rule for donor hair?

12-16000 grafts in permanent safe zone, whole non balding area is roughly double permanent safe area


max gho can do is 70g/cm2, 14000 needed to cover 200cm2..
if you tell him tht you dont care about sides as you going to shave them anyway then this haircut is possible

[aim4hair]

imagine you getting old sporting a mohawk!! you'll be one coolass old fella...

[534623]

I like it when guys talk about moving of ten thousands of grafts from the donor area…

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=108138&postcount=64

…but can’t even buy a test-procedure.

The good thing is that these lo…I mean..idi…I mean…psy…erm…guys can’t read my posts anymore – otherwise they would freak out.

[hellouser]

When they say typically a person has between 6-8,000 donor grafts, does that mean that beyond the NW6/7 balding area there are only between 12-16,000 grafts in total? I ask this because if 50% of hair must be lost for hair loss to be visible, is that then the rule for donor hair?

[caddarik79]

funny, I thought about that once, like why couldn't choose where to put the highest density, designing the repartition of hairs to create something you like...

a bit the reasoning they have themselve with the front and framing the face being prior to the crown...