The 50 Graft Test Procedure

[didi]

wow look what I found

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ghogho/

well,it was started back in 2007


http://www.*airlosshelp.com/forums/m...y&keyword1=hst


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This Gho drama will never get old, 6 years on and still a mystery

[hellouser]

wow look what I found

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ghogho/

well,it was started back in 2007


http://www.*airlosshelp.com/forums/m...y&keyword1=hst


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This Gho drama will never get old, 6 years on and still a mystery

You don't think after 6 years someone would have caught on and said 'your claims are bogus, you ruined my donor hair, I'll see you in court' ??

Or maybe, just maybe.... he's the real deal?

[didi]

you expecting people like Iron man to take him to court, he cant tell difference between 1.1 hair graft and 2.2 hair graft..

you need to realize that people who get HT dont like to meke too much noise about it, its taboo you know what I mean, besides do you expect average patient to know if all transplanted hairs fully grew or not..you see now we have seen photographic evidence of poor recipient area and people still chose to ignore it,
it is a big white elephant in the room

Doctors realized that average patient is not more inteligent than your average sheep, so why not

[hellouser]

you expecting people like Iron man to take him to court, he cant tell difference between 1.1 hair graft and 2.2 hair graft..

you need to realize that people who get HT dont like to meke too much noise about it, its taboo you know what I mean, besides do you expect average patient to know if all transplanted hairs fully grew or not..you see now we have seen photographic evidence of poor recipient area and people still chose to ignore it,
it is a big white elephant in the room

Doctors realized that average patient is not more inteligent than your average sheep, so why not

Its been 6 years with 5,000+ patients, many including dutch celebs, royalty, Wesley Snejder, etc. After so many patients and this many years, I think by now someone would take the case to court. And no, not all people are so ignorant as to not know what Gho's method entails nor are all people too afraid of stepping forward with taking the case to court simply because its 'taboo' (Bosley got taken to court by a patient so why not Gho?).

[didi]

Bosley butchered people, Ghos HST dont do that...in a court of law it can be a bit tricky to prove beyond reasonable doubt that HST doesnt do wht it claims to



it has to be clear cut , thats why testing is required

[JJJJrS]

To give people more of an idea of why I'm so interested in including the recipient area in future analysis:

From my analysis of gc's donor, the most interesting thing I discovered was that 30% of the extracted follicular units regenerated with less hairs or were thinner.

To give people an idea of what that means, I'll give a conservative example. Let's say a person has an average of 2.0 hairs per follicular unit and undergoes an HST procedure. We know that 20% of the extracted follicular units will not regenerate. On top of that, let's say 30% of the follicular units regenerate with half as many hairs. This means that the true regeneration rate for hairs in the donor is 65%.

Let's extend this to the recipient side. Let's say 10% of the transplanted follicular units do not yield and 30% appear thinner, or have half as many hairs. The total yield for hairs on the recipient side is then 75%. The true multiplication rate, in this case, is 1.4x.

This is why I'm very interested in including the recipient area in any future analysis. We have a good idea of what's happening in the donor but the recipient is missing. Without both, you can not have a complete analysis.

[didi]

'Let's extend this to the recipient side. Let's say 10% of the transplanted follicular units do not yield and 30% appear thinner, or have half as many hairs. The total yield for hairs on the recipient side is then 75%. The true multiplication rate, in this case, is 1.4x.'



Ref to GCs case, recipient area 65% follicular units grew with less hairs,(its safe to assume HST tried to transplant multihair grafts, even Iron Man agrees on this one,surprisingly)

10% dont grow for whatever reason
65% grows with less hairs
??% how many grows thinner? according to HASCI all of them and thats the reason why transplanted hair can not be used again as a donor,(I guess you cant split 1 hair grafts)


Now, calculate multiplication rate?

[534623]

Anyway "If stupidity would hurt, these people would scream" - and I'm not talking about those who already bought multiple HST procedures....

In this posting ...

http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpost.php?p=99040&postcount=70

...I was talking about "FACTS".

And here you can hear someone screaming EVERY DAY ... lol

hair on the right looks same diameter as donor and you have all sort of different grafts there which shows your donor and recipient mirror each other, its not scientific but its good to see

Of course the SAME DIAMETER as the freshly implanted hairs from the donor area. I have never ever seen anywhere the contrary!

[JJJJrS]

Bumping this thread for those of us that want real answers on the procedure.

I still see lots of questions being asked about the procedure on this forum. Guys, if you really want facts instead of speculation from random posters online, this is what you have to push for.

[FearTheLoss]

I agree. I don't understand why this shit hasn't been done already. Why hasn't spencer just gone over and had it done on his crown? He's supposed to be an advocate for hair loss sufferers and Gho is willing..

[Arashi]

I totally agree that the 50 graft test is THE test that will yield final proof. Without recipient, donor regrowth is a useless number.

If we're going to wait for Spencer, we'll be at the same spot 5 years from now. Why don't we chip in money ourselves and get somebody, preferably a Dutch guy living close, to go over there and have 50 grafts done ? I think this is the best way to move forward quickly. I for one would have no problems to chip in 200 euro.

[Arashi]

It says on their site that 50 grafts costs 570 euro. I'd be willing to pay 200 of that. Only 370 left

[gc83uk]

It says on their site that 50 grafts costs 570 euro. I'd be willing to pay 200 of that. Only 370 left

I'll put 50 towards it. Any other donations?

[didi]

I'll put 50 towards it. Any other donations?

50.


question is

Would Gho be willing to do 50 graft test procedure

[Arashi]

50.


question is

Would Gho be willing to do 50 graft test procedure

Why wouldn't he ? It's listed in their pricelist, without any notes or reservations.

Already found a guy on the Dutch forums who would do the test. The poor guy was butchered by a Turkish clinic and now is looking at HASCI but is, very understandably, afraid of another procedure. Hence the 50 graft test would be perfect for him and I think his current hairloss pattern would also make him a perfect candidate. See: http://www.haarweb.nl/forum/showthread.php?t=32053

So all we'd need is a few more money donors, and we could get this thing going