The 50 Graft Test Procedure

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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    Originally posted by gc83uk
    Hmm ok, so the photo I uploaded doesn't include ALL the extraction points, no? I must be missing some to the left?

    Is the scar actually in the picture which I used and encircled? If so whereabouts is it?
    Yeah it is. These 2 photo's should help you locate it:

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    • 534623
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 1854

      Originally posted by Arashi
      And she also sent me this picture regarding the 3 hair graft issue. Everybody has different hair, some have thin, some have thick and James is lucky to have very thick hair. Downside is of course that thick hair like that is difficult to extract with a small drill when it comes to a cluster of 3 hairs.

      She mailed me this photo to show how small the extraction sites are compared to 3 hair clusters:

      http://picturepush.com/public/12656042
      Here is another pic which explains the problem(s)...

      Note: The pic above is pic by Dr. Bisanga.
      Attached Files

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      • gc83uk
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 1339

        Originally posted by Arashi
        Remind me, how many grafts went into his scar?

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          Originally posted by gc83uk
          Remind me, how many grafts went into his scar?
          All singles into his temples. Left temple 60, right 90. All doubles into the scar, so 50.

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          • gc83uk
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1339

            Originally posted by Arashi
            All singles into his temples. Left temple 60, right 90. All doubles into the scar, so 50.
            ok got it, looks like I circled 22, I knew there was something not right in that area hence why I didn't originally circle all 50. Some already look very clean.

            I'll probably have to redo it, but I still think there is about 240ish circled extractions in my uploaded version And it sounds like you've found even more from what you were just saying!

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            • Arashi
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 3888

              Originally posted by gc83uk
              ok got it, looks like I circled 22, I knew there was something not right in that area hence why I didn't originally circle all 50. Some already look very clean.

              I'll probably have to redo it, but I still think there is about 240ish circled extractions in my uploaded version And it sounds like you've found even more from what you were just saying!
              I may have just messed up. I think I'll just wait for better photo's.

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              • james bald
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2013
                • 15

                hi guys,

                Is this one good?

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by james bald
                  At least, it is not bad at all. A litte bit closer would be ideal - either the camera somewhat closer or same distance and use the zoom-function - but just a little bit. Should work.

                  Anyway, at least we can see that you try your best.

                  p.s - the extraction "wounds" are extremely tiny (in general) and the healing is very fast - looks good so far.

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                  • gc83uk
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1339

                    Originally posted by james bald
                    Hey your getting good at this, definitely improving.

                    I wonder if your able to take one without the flash? I think for the quality of the camera you have it should be possible as long as you have good light, maybe some down-lighters/halogens if your taking it in the evening/night time.

                    The only reason I ask, is because the flash is bouncing right in the center of the photo making it impossible to find the small red extraction spots.

                    Thanks!

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by gc83uk
                      Hey your getting good at this, definitely improving.

                      I wonder if your able to take one without the flash? I think for the quality of the camera you have it should be possible as long as you have good light, maybe some down-lighters/halogens if your taking it in the evening/night time.
                      Without the flash?
                      Come on - for SUCH photos, whether is day or night - you simply need the flash:


                      Or can I see here photos without the usage of the flash?

                      Without the proper equipment (special daylight lightning etc), you simply need the flash. Without the flash, the photos will be too dark.

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4419

                        Originally posted by james bald
                        GREAT! Thanks

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          Originally posted by 534623
                          At least, it is not bad at all. A litte bit closer would be ideal - either the camera somewhat closer or same distance and use the zoom-function - but just a little bit. Should work.

                          Anyway, at least we can see that you try your best.

                          p.s - the extraction "wounds" are extremely tiny (in general) and the healing is very fast - looks good so far.
                          Each lens has a minimum focusing distance. My $1000 Canon 24-105mm f/4L can't focus on anything closer than 45cm. Zooming in won't make a difference. Each lens is different. Most cameras won't produce the 'beep' sound when the subject isn't in focus, its only done on focus, thus a good way to gauge when to take the shot (seeing how he's basically pointing the camera behind his head and unable to look through a viewfinder or LCD screen).

                          Modern Point and Shoots have a digital macro feature which will allow you to take REALLY nice close-up photos, but it won't be easy consistently pointing the camera at the same angle every time behind your head and not seeing where its pointed. Its a pain in the ass.... unless you get a system of mirrors.

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                          • gc83uk
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1339

                            Originally posted by 534623
                            Without the flash?
                            Come on - for SUCH photos, whether is day or night - you simply need the flash:

                            Or can I see here photos without the usage of the flash?

                            Without the proper equipment (special daylight lightning etc), you simply need the flash. Without the flash, the photos will be too dark.
                            You've misunderstood

                            I said because of his camera is decent it's possible to take good photos without a flash.

                            I on the other hand, you know exactly how crap my camera was and this is why I used the flash.

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                            • james bald
                              Junior Member
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 15

                              how about this one guys???

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                              • gc83uk
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 1339

                                Originally posted by james bald
                                Awesome. There is still flashback, but it's quite minimal in this photo and I think we can see all the extractions. Thanks

                                By the way, how are you feeling? Any pain/itchyness?

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