The 50 Graft Test Procedure

[gc83uk]

"During this extraction some skin plus transected hairs come along'

that is very interesting, 150 extra hairs isnt really 'some'.

as i predicted...total wont exceed what we see in petri...

Out of the 250 hairs, 200 will grow back. So James will lose about 50 hairs in donor and will gain 250 in recipient.

How is this different than FUE?...if you saw 450 hairs in petri extracted by fue..
you would expect 450 in recipient right? and 0 in donor area....total 450....same as HST

LOL FUE is sooo different, but if you were doing FUE with the same size punch...

...then the difference with FUE is, if you have 450 hairs in the petri dish of which 200 were transected, you would get 200 transected hairs regrowing in the donor, but you would get 0 hairs regrowing from the other 250 hairs in the donor.

Difference is FUE with small punch you will lose 250 hairs in the donor vs HST you will lose only 50 hairs.

If you were doing FUE with a larger punch, you would probably be able to extract all 400 hairs all in tact with bulbs, but you ain't getting any regrowth of those 400 in the donor, that's for sure. So your just moving 400 from A to B with no net gain. It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

[Arashi]

LOL FUE is sooo different, but if you were doing FUE with the same size punch...

...then the difference with FUE is, if you have 450 hairs in the petri dish of which 200 were transected, you would get 200 transected hairs regrowing in the donor, but you would get 0 hairs regrowing from the other 250 hairs in the donor.

Difference is FUE with small punch you will lose 250 hairs in the donor vs HST you will lose only 50 hairs.

If you were doing FUE with a larger punch, you would probably be able to extract all 400 hairs, but you ain't getting any regrowth of those 400 in the donor, that's for sure. So your just moving 400 from A to B with no net gain. It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

Hehe, it really isn't that hard to understand, right ? But will Didi understand ? I still have my doubts ...

[Arashi]

It's also worth noting that you wouldn't have 100% yield in FUE anyway.

This is a very interesting point though. One of the main arguments (old school people like Spex) will bring up in favour of FUT over FUE is that the yields of FUT are much better. We can finally see now what the yield with HST will be !! Very very excited to find out !

[gc83uk]

This is a very interesting point though. One of the main arguments (old school people like Spex) will bring up in favour of FUT over FUE is that the yields of FUT are much better. We can finally see now what the yield with HST will be !! Very very excited to find out !

Yes I personally think 90% - 95% would be an excellent result, but who knows, maybe he can get 100%

Any news on the photos from James and the Hasci photos? Really need to be seeing something today!!!

[Arashi]

Yes I personally think 90% - 95% would be an excellent result, but who knows, maybe he can get 100%

Any news on the photos from James and the Hasci photos? Really need to be seeing something today!!!

Just PM-ed James on haarweb, I hope he's going to shoot some photo's today.

[gc83uk]

Just PM-ed James on haarweb, I hope he's going to shoot some photo's today.

Top man!

Have you seen the update on Dean Saunders? Don't suppose you know how many grafts he's had? I've just seen his twitter pic, but don't speak any Dutch, but I know you do! Do the detective work

[Arashi]

Top man!

Have you seen the update on Dean Saunders? Don't suppose you know how many grafts he's had? I've just seen his twitter pic, but don't speak any Dutch, but I know you do! Do the detective work

No, haven't really been following Dean Saunders and I'm one of those people who hate Twitter

Anyway, where's James ?? We indeed REALLY need him to shoot some good pictures of his donor. Like IronMan noted, day 2 and 3 generally are the best since extraction sites are the clearest visible ... I'm just hoping he won't pull a "NeverSayNever" on us and just disappear ?!? The faith of tons of balding guys is in his hands ...

[james bald]

hey guys,

day 3:

donor area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656418/img/12656418.jpg

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656422/img/12656422.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656423/img/12656423.jpg

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656426/img/12656426.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656428/img/12656428.jpg

recipient area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656433/img/12656433.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656438/img/12656438.jpg

[Arashi]

hey guys,

day 3:

donor area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656418/img/12656418.jpg

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656422/img/12656422.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656423/img/12656423.jpg

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656426/img/12656426.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656428/img/12656428.jpg

recipient area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656433/img/12656433.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12656438.jpg

James !!! Happy to see you back man ,great work !

[Arashi]

Although the quality of the donor photo's isn't that high .. It's hard to see the extraction points. I'm really not the guy to ask about photographing, I don't know sh*t about that, hehe, but to me it seems the flash is ruining it here ?

[gc83uk]

hey guys,

day 3:

donor area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656418/img/12656418.jpg

http://www4.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656422/img/12656422.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656423/img/12656423.jpg

http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656426/img/12656426.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656428/img/12656428.jpg

recipient area:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656433/img/12656433.jpg

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12656438.jpg

Hi James,

Pictures are not too bad, thanks for uploading these. Would it be possible for you to take a donor shot which isn't quite as blurry and maybe a bit closer?

What shutter speed are you using? And do you have it in macro mode with the flower?

Thanks

[534623]

hey guys,

day 3:

donor area:

This one is pretty good (the best so far)...

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/12656423/img/12656423.jpg

But it seems that the distance between your camera and your head is either still too far away or you don't use your cameras' ZOOM-function (properly) - I don't know.

Compare with my own day-3 photo...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/Right-Ear-View-Day-3.jpg

Everything beyond such a photo is useless for documentations - that's still the problem in your case.

btw - it seems that the camera-settings are okay, but the usage (a little bit) of the zoom-function would be cool and there is no need that the photo contains the whole head - the extraction area is important!

[Arashi]

Also, James, from Kristel I understood that they've placed all 1's in those 2 sections below your hairline and all 2's into your scar. I don't think you've posted a picture of the scar yet ? I might be mistaking though, will go trough those photo's again.

[534623]

hey guys,

day 3:

By the way - in 1-2 days it will be TOO LATE for any good photos for documentation, because in around 1-2 days you will see practically NOTHING anymore...


...besides longer and shorter hairs.

[Arashi]

Also, James, from Kristel I understood that they've placed all 1's in those 2 sections below your hairline and all 2's into your scar. I don't think you've posted a picture of the scar yet ? I might be mistaking though, will go trough those photo's again.

Scratch that, obviously the scar recipient is visible. However would be great if you could shoot some better photos. Like Ironman just noted, in 2 days you won't be able to see anything at all anymore.