The 50 Graft Test Procedure

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  • didi
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1360

    well, its not too late..james can keep taking photos

    IM please explain to James what he needs to do in regards to taking photos

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      Shooting good pictures is an art and if anybody can explain how to do this, it's IM

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      • james bald
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2013
        • 15

        how is this one?

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        • 534623
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2011
          • 1854

          Originally posted by Arashi
          Shooting good pictures is an art and if anybody can explain how to do this, it's IM
          Yeah, I tried this already a few month ago - but YOU f u c k e d off every thread where I tried it ...

          Hi all. I'm having my first HST in a few weeks and was wondering if you guys could give me some advice on how to get as good quality pictures as Gaz (gc83uk) got. I want to document my procedure, as much for myself as anything else. I'm also willing to share these pictures if anyone wishes. Also if the rest of the guys

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            Originally posted by 534623
            Yeah, I tried this already a few month ago - but YOU f u c k e d off every thread where I tried it ...

            http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=10315
            Hehe, yeah I was the only one '****ing up' threads

            But let's forget all about that and let's just focus on James here.

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1854

              Originally posted by james bald
              Much better!

              JamesBald - what you do right now and the coming few days is VERY IMPORTANT for many guys out there - just to let you know...

              Tell me your camera's model (type of your camera like "Canon XZX0815") and I will TRY to give you some proper instructions (how I make such photos).
              It's just up to you.

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                hehe, man, reading back that thread, I behaved even worse than you and Didi did over here
                Anyway happy we're getting along a lot better now and we can focus on this. Last word about that

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                • james bald
                  Junior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 15

                  http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12644351.jpg http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12644365.jpg http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12644390.jpg

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                  • james bald
                    Junior Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 15

                    Originally posted by 534623
                    Much better!

                    JamesBald - what you do right now and the coming few days is VERY IMPORTANT for many guys out there - just to let you know...

                    Tell me your camera's model (type of your camera like "Canon XZX0815") and I will TRY to give you some proper instructions (how I make such photos).
                    It's just up to you.
                    I have a canon IXUS 1000 HS. 10 megapixel.

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by james bald
                      of course arashi, I'll post the links here.

                      I have to mention I didn't have 150 but 200 grafts placed.

                      90 grafts in the front right, 60 front left. (all single grafts)

                      50 grafts in the scar behind (double grafts).

                      James Bald,
                      JJJJrS - what do you think?

                      Are YOU interested at all to analyze precisely 200 (!) extraction sites/holes in the donor area as well as 200 (!) implantation sites in the recipient area?

                      Pffffft ...

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                      • JJJJrS
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 638

                        Originally posted by 534623
                        JJJJrS - what do you think?

                        Are YOU interested at all to analyze precisely 200 (!) extraction sites/holes in the donor area as well as 200 (!) implantation sites in the recipient area?

                        Pffffft ...


                        What concerns me more than the number of extraction/implantation points is the quality of the photos. I thought HASCI was going to use professional photographers but you and gc both took much better pictures.

                        I'll take a closer look the photos but they appear too blurry at the moment to do a detailed analysis. Unfortunately, I think we might have lost our opportunity at taking a good before picture.

                        On the positive side, we know how many 1-hair and 2-hair were extracted (petri dish) so we still have time to do a detailed analysis, but I think the quality of the images has to improve.

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                        • 534623
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1854

                          Originally posted by james bald
                          I have a canon IXUS 1000 HS. 10 megapixel.
                          okay - here is a user guide/manual (English):


                          Or try to google "canon ixus 1000 hs user guide manual" and maybe you find a manual in a language you prefer ...

                          Anyway, it seems you can also ZOOM with this model - according to page 57 (link above).

                          And now the simple "tricks" to get such photos:


                          camera settings:

                          ISO: not more than "100" (simply use ALWAYS this setting!)
                          Focusing Range (page 166): use the setting with the "flower symbol"

                          And now the real tricks:

                          - Even with the focusing rage "flowers-symbol" (=close-up photos), ZOOM somewhat (but just somewhat!!) the camera in addition - that's the key!

                          - distance to your head/extractions sites/implantation sites not more than 8-15 cm - simply try it out!

                          - FLASH: Use always the FLASH for such photos!
                          With this, it's almost irrelevant whether it's night or day (in this case) for such photos.

                          - Shaking: Try to avoid shaking! Do NOT shake the camera nor your head during the shots! Do not even breath! lol
                          (Such cameras use stabilizers - but mostly useless for SUCH photos!)

                          Simply put the camera, for example, on a table, window-sill or something (with this, shaking of the camera is not possible anymore!) and take the photos with the "delay function" (5-12 seconds or so). With this, you have time to move your head properly.

                          That's all. That are my "dirty secrets" ...

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            dont need to analize 200 sites, 50 is enough


                            25% is good sample size

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                            • JJJJrS
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 638

                              I have to admit though, not having a good before picture will be difficult to overcome. For example, how do you generate a real regeneration rate when you don't know what the hair characteristics were like before?

                              What do you guys think?

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                Originally posted by JJJJrS
                                I have to admit though, not having a good before picture will be difficult to overcome. For example, how do you generate a real regeneration rate when you don't know what the hair characteristics were like before?

                                What do you guys think?
                                Maybe I'm missing something. Yes, pre photo is blurry, that's really a damn pity but doesn't have to be deal breaker:
                                1) We know how many 1's and 2's they extracted, can even count them in the petri dish.
                                2) We have clear pictures of the recipient postop
                                3) We have (and/or James is shooting them right now) clear pictures of donor postop.

                                Thus we can easily count the amount of regrowth in donor and growth in recipient. That's all we need or do I miss something ?

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