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  • gc83uk
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1339

    I'm an impatient bastard

    OK I'm looking for some advice.

    As the title of the thread states I'm impatient and I can't stand to wait 9 months between procedures.

    I have been banging on to Hasci about bringing my next treatment forward, Gho of couse said it's not a good idea whilst I was at my last procedure, so I quit talking about it.

    Anyway a couple of weeks ago I fired off an email to one of the Dr's. I basically asked her what is the possibility of bringing the procedure forward. She said she would have to consult with Gho, so fair enough. Anyway I get the email back today, the verdict is.. They would do it, but only as long as I know of the danger involved in that basically there is less chance of the grafts growing back (they must be referring to the donor area).

    I'm seriously considering this, I'm best man at a wedding a couple of weeks after the proposed date I'm asking for. So the gap between my 3rd and 4th procedure would be 7.5 months.

    So we are only talking about a difference of 6 weeks. I'm really not sure if its worth the risk especially seeing as I'll be looking at another 1600 grafts.

    Second question, I'm considering asking them to extract grafts from a slightly lower area than previously. I'm going to upload a photo from the back from a reasonable distance so you can see the back of my head in one shot, so I would like advice on whether the area I'm thinking of is eligible as the 'safe zone'. I thinking Ironman in particular for this question!

    My logic behind this is just so there is less chance of extracting grafts from the donor that were extracted in my 3rd HST, but this is dependant on whether I go for an earlier treatment or not.

    Any thoughts on the above?
  • garethbale
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 603

    #2
    Hi gc

    You obviously know more than me mate but surely it would be better to wait as Gho says, just incase. Can't you apply concealer or something?

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    • gc83uk
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1339

      #3
      Originally posted by garethbale
      Hi gc

      You obviously know more than me mate but surely it would be better to wait as Gho says, just incase. Can't you apply concealer or something?
      Your very right. However I've currently got my hair at a zero anyway so I don't think concealer would do much unless it was a number 3 at the very minimum. I'd like to know if anyone actually wears concealer on a short cut or if its even practical?

      The other unknown is I don't know how good my hair will look by then. (By time my 3rd HST grafts have taken properly).

      It's a gamble, but if I want to go ahead with it I'd prob have to confirm it with them pretty soon in case the dates are taken by another patient.

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      • Kirby_
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 439

        #4
        gc83uk, just wondering, have you informed your GP about your transplant surgeries? I hope if you have, you have a supportive GP.

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        • gc83uk
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1339

          #5
          Originally posted by Kirby_
          gc83uk, just wondering, have you informed your GP about your transplant surgeries? I hope if you have, you have a supportive GP.
          No I haven't. I can't see what good that would do. Have you spoken to your GP about hairloss and what was the outcome?

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          • custards
            Junior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 29

            #6
            I thought it takes a long time to see the full benefit, so at least for the wedding it wouldn't make you look better already (and might actually look worse if it hasn't settled down yet).

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            • gc83uk
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1339

              #7
              Originally posted by custards
              I thought it takes a long time to see the full benefit, so at least for the wedding it wouldn't make you look better already (and might actually look worse if it hasn't settled down yet).
              Ah well, it's funny you say that. I've had 3 HST's now. After a week you can't see any redness or scaring. And the new grafts don't shed for at least a couple of weeks, so actually for the first couple of weeks it is fairly close to the end result!

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              • Jasari
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 251

                #8
                Originally posted by gc83uk
                Ah well, it's funny you say that. I've had 3 HST's now. After a week you can't see any redness or scaring. And the new grafts don't shed for at least a couple of weeks, so actually for the first couple of weeks it is fairly close to the end result!
                On the Indonesian site, they say that they do up to 3000 grafts in one treatment. I'm wondering why they break the treatments up into 1500 graft bouts 9 months apart if this is possible (If patients could be treated over a few days the process would be sped up dramatically).

                Do people have the option of requesting 2000+ grafts in their treatment?

                I assume it depends on availability. I had 2100 grafts done via fue and that was a little over 1000 grafts each day.

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                • Kirby_
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 439

                  #9
                  Originally posted by gc83uk
                  No I haven't. I can't see what good that would do. Have you spoken to your GP about hairloss and what was the outcome?
                  Currently I take/took finasteride to stop the loss. I informed my GP and he took me to stop taking finasteride/Propecia, refused me the blood tests that I NEED if I am to still take the medicine regularly, and took the fin. packet I had on me off me, and the dermatologist's diagnosis letter. I'm being FORCED to stop fighting hair loss. I would almost certainly not tell my GP in your situation, as you don't (IIRC) need regularl blood tests with HST.

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                  • 534623
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 1854

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gc83uk

                    I've had 3 HST's now. After a week you can't see any redness or scaring. And the new grafts don't shed for at least a couple of weeks, so actually for the first couple of weeks it is fairly close to the end result!
                    Absolutely untrue. What you can see after the treatment day and around one week after having HST - is nothing more than a nonpermanent illusion ...

                    ... because recently, during a painstaking study perfomed by didi ...

                    I've analyzed over 100 extraction points from gc83uk's 2nd and 3rd HST procedures. There are a few new and very interesting things we can observe from this documentation: - A before and after comparison of the extraction points. In other words, what does the follicular unit (FU) look like before extraction and how does it


                    ... he found out the truth and that your nice 2-hair or 3-hair grafts, which you can see immediately after the treatment in the recipient, will finally become just single hairs and that not enough, these single hairs will become thinner than normal in addition! How bad - I mean, for you...

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                    • FearTheLoss
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 1581

                      #11
                      so gc, after your next treatment you will have had 4600 grafts when u.s. ht surgeons told you they could only get 2000?

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                      • didi
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1360

                        #12
                        maybe if he went to Dr umar or Dr feriduni they would tell him that he could have 5000 grafts extracted or more, they all have different approach that is why their word cant be taken as gospel.

                        IMHO Gc wasnt bad case at all, 100cm2 to cover, there are people with 250cm2 or 300cm2 to cover with sh!t density and good FUE Drs fix them, to some extent at least

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                        • 534623
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 1854

                          #13
                          Originally posted by didi

                          there are people with 250cm2 or 300cm2 to cover with sh!t density and good FUE Drs fix them, to some extent at least
                          Really? So what the **** are you still doing here??

                          Btw - do you know why so many doctors try to transplant as much as they can?
                          Of course so that nobody can detect so easy the loss of up to 30% and more of the not grown hairs. Furthermore, they prefer to transplant into areas with still pre-existing hairs - which compensates the loss even more.

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                          • didi
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1360

                            #14
                            i wanna see final proof that HST works as claimed, thats all

                            I want test, 50 graft test, independent verification by unbiased team of dermatologists/Drs, supervised and financed by Spence Kobren

                            hope Spence gets HST done so he can stop painting his head and lips, its pathetic thing to do in 2013...

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                            • 534623
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 1854

                              #15
                              Originally posted by didi

                              i wanna see final proof that HST works as claimed, thats all

                              I want test...
                              Typical demand of typical less well-off people:

                              “If I don’t see the final proof that the new Ferrari can reach 360 km/h in under 10 seconds – I don’t buy the new Ferrari”

                              Nobody cares what you want - so go to your "good doctors" and buy their good coverage for you bald head. But before you think about hair transplants at all - try to get rid of kilos on you fat ass with "Dr. Vivek Nigam's" slim on phone service - would make far more sense for you.

                              oh, and don't forget to take good quality before/after photos of your ass for the final proof. thanks in advance.

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