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  • Jcm800
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2614

    Originally posted by ajays
    I am surprised by the results posted by julio. All I can say is that I have definitely seen improvements in my hair while on Keratene, though I do not know my DHT levels as it is very difficult to get them done through my medical insurance here. I am eagerly looking fwd to ryan's results now.

    Maybe it's better to take 2x/day instead of 1x/day - no idea.
    Thanks ajays, this is making me feel a bit better! What improvement have you noticed? Are you on 2x daily yourself? Thanks.

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    • ajays
      Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 90

      Julio,

      Ignore my earlier post - i am able to see your results now. Do you think increase in testosterone could have cause increase in your DHT levels too? Maybe 1x/day of Keratene may not have been sufficient to counter the rise in testosterone? I am just guessing and trying to be optimistic here.

      Also, i notice that you have an increase in beta estradiol. Is it something to be concerned about?


      Originally posted by JulioGP
      My friends,

      I have good news and bad news. The good news is that my exams left.
      Everyone knows here that I never had an interest in promoting any product, let alone pass a false impression in the use of these, then, I expose the test conducted by me, but do not discount the possibility of a user have different results, even finding it difficult to happen, because it is a clinical examination.

      I will contact the company to find out what might have happened.

      I used the Kératene for 26 days(and I'm still using), 1 capsule daily. In the 1st week wore morning and from 2nd week, for convenience, I use it at night before bed.
      On the 26th day, I made an examination that included testosterone and DHT and with the same sample, which was ordered held separate consideration only the DHT (to make sure the blood test). Exactly, two tests were made to not have bugs! The laboratory is reputable, trust fully.
      Here are my results:




      The change in testosterone for more possibly has an explanation. I was consuming almost 1 Liter Soy Milk and this consumption was suspended about 1 month prior to this test, ie, as the sole milk is rich in isoflavone and I have eliminated their consumption probably rose because my Testosterone to it (said by endocrinologist and I agree).

      As I said before, I did not have any side effect, something kind of obvious because I did not have any change of DHT, incidentally, came well risen slightly but this change is considered normal.

      Simply the product did not work, no change in DHT levels, very strange considering the many studies conducted by the company.

      So, I await the result of friends (AAsuited and others) who are testing the product.

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      • JulioGP
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 293

        Originally posted by ajays
        Hi Julio,

        I am unable to see your results. Can you please post them again?

        Thanks
        Yes, here:

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        • JulioGP
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 293

          Originally posted by shredder
          julio,

          this is bad news indeed - on behalf of everyone here, thanks nevertheless for taking the tests. have you considered taking 2 capsules instead of one (remember, the trial was performed with 2/day) and then testing again? I mean, you have nothing to lose now, have you?

          shit, i this doesn't work then I don't know what to do either.
          Yes, I was sad with the results too. I did not think to take 2 capsules, because all indications for my case should work with just one capsule. Following all product instructions related to my level of DHT, there would need to take 2 capsules and I was supposed to have had a major reduction in the level of DHT even with 1 capsule, and she even increased slightly, ie, had a normal hormonal variation but was still higher than in the previous examination. In my case, I understand that it makes more sense to continue investing in testing and blood tests. What was supposed to happen, did not happen.

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          • ajays
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 90

            I was on 2x/day for about 4 months and recently I reduced to 1x/day, based on the clinical trial report where the user went to 1x/day after some period. After looking at Julio's results, I am thinking of going back to 2x/day. Regarding improvements, I was having noticeable diffusion on my hairline and crown area for the past year. I had got on minox and it was pretty much destroying my hair, face and skin. I stopped minox and got on Keratene around 5 months back. My friends have confirmed that my hair looks less diffused now than earlier and the crown area is getting covered - based on what I see in the mirror. Therefore, I am really surprised by Julio's results.

            I must also mention here that I have been using the Keratene shampoo + sercomplex 3 times a week and multi-vitamin/biotin tablet everyday.

            Apart from ryan,AAsuited is anyone else getting tested? Maybe it's better to be on 2x/day and then get tested. But the decision is up to each individual.

            Originally posted by Jcm800
            Thanks ajays, this is making me feel a bit better! What improvement have you noticed? Are you on 2x daily yourself? Thanks.

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            • JulioGP
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 293

              Originally posted by Jcm800
              Yes Julio, for sure - thanks first and foremost. I just feel like a mug for not waiting on your results before ordering.

              Now, Bart said to me I should take a capsule am and pm due to the product having a 12 hour half life, perhaps it would have a baring if you took two?
              No, this information differs from the instruction manual. I took the medicine exactly as explained in the manual, see:



              My baseline was 723pg/ml.

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              • JulioGP
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2013
                • 293

                Originally posted by ajays
                Julio,

                Ignore my earlier post - i am able to see your results now. Do you think increase in testosterone could have cause increase in your DHT levels too? Maybe 1x/day of Keratene may not have been sufficient to counter the rise in testosterone? I am just guessing and trying to be optimistic here.

                Also, i notice that you have an increase in beta estradiol. Is it something to be concerned about?
                The Beta estradiol is still within the limit, the mine was always higher even. On testosterone, I do not think. Precisely because of testosterone have increased I believed that DHT would reduce, but not. This actually also help to decrease the DHT, because if there is more testosterone in the blood, which means less testosterone is converted to DHT by 5AR, if you know what I mean.

                I do not want to discourage anyone, just like that other people also do blood tests before and after.

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                • Jcm800
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2614

                  Yes i see, but given my age and un-known DHT level i guess 2x capsules was correct advice in my case.

                  In your case tho - you could in theory take Finasteride without any conflict with Keretene?!

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1581

                    Sorry guys I haven't been keeping up with this thread since I dropped KaR....but has anyone done a blood test yet? and is anyone planning on it?

                    I tried this stuff for a few weeks, 2 pills a day with no side effects and it honestly seemed to make my temples itch more and I had more pressure in that region which isn't a good thing...so I dropped it.

                    I alway know a guy who takes RU and has been taking it for a year and it haulted his loss the whole time until he added KaR to his regimen and then he started losing in the temples...I'm assuming because of the increase in testosterone.

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                    • JulioGP
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 293

                      Originally posted by Jcm800
                      Yes i see, but given my age and un-known DHT level i guess 2x capsules was correct advice in my case.

                      In your case tho - you could in theory take Finasteride without any conflict with Keretene?!
                      No, you can not join the two drugs. Is the product(KAR) instructions.

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                      • JulioGP
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 293

                        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                        Sorry guys I haven't been keeping up with this thread since I dropped KaR....but has anyone done a blood test yet? and is anyone planning on it?

                        I tried this stuff for a few weeks, 2 pills a day with no side effects and it honestly seemed to make my temples itch more and I had more pressure in that region which isn't a good thing...so I dropped it.

                        I alway know a guy who takes RU and has been taking it for a year and it haulted his loss the whole time until he added KaR to his regimen and then he started losing in the temples...I'm assuming because of the increase in testosterone.
                        Are you saying that the Kératene may have high testosterone levels? Feasible, because the level actually increased. I gave my views on soy milk that was the only thing I found relevant in this case, but it may be that too.

                        If it were so, it would be even more damaging, because in addition to increasing testosterone, DHT has not reduced.

                        JCM800, since you bought the product, I think I should test with 2 capsules yes, but do blood tests before.

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                        • FearTheLoss
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1581

                          Originally posted by JulioGP
                          Are you saying that the Kératene may have high testosterone levels? Feasible, because the level actually increased. I gave my views on soy milk that was the only thing I found relevant in this case, but it may be that too.

                          If it were so, it would be even more damaging, because in addition to increasing testosterone, DHT has not reduced.

                          JCM800, since you bought the product, I think I should test with 2 capsules yes, but do blood tests before.
                          Yeah that's what I am saying, I believe my testosterone levels increased on KaR

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                          • Jcm800
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2614

                            To he honest I haven't got spare funds to do blood tests, I ordered this based on the results of you other two or three people doing bloodwork and your results. But I got impatient, and stupidly ordered beforehand. In my case I'll either take x2 and risk wasting precious time, or I'll return it when it arrives, and see if their refund service sucks as well, that'll be interesting.

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                            • tdo
                              Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 30

                              JCM,

                              Why not just try it and see what happens. I believe this to be legit but who knows. There are others on here as well as other forums that have seen results, so just give it a go.

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                              • FearTheLoss
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 1581

                                Originally posted by tdo
                                JCM,

                                Why not just try it and see what happens. I believe this to be legit but who knows. There are others on here as well as other forums that have seen results, so just give it a go.
                                I haven't seen a single veteran member that is for sure they are getting results on this. The ones who say they have results have like 5 posts and popped up when this stuff came about.

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