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  • jo5555
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 4

    I started taking KaR a bit after this thread started. I've been on it for more or less 6 month taking 1 pill a day...

    my hairloss didn't regress, nor even stop... in other words in kept loosing more hair :|

    During the first month or so, I was indeed feeling more tired than usual and the scalp itching was lower, but after some time, it came back again to normal.

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    • Julian P
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 34

      Originally posted by UK_
      Yes, the results showed that DHT levels came back higher.

      So much for non-approved treatments eh?
      And he had the same high DHT-levels with 1mg of finasteride every other day. Taking 0,5mg every day his DHT levels were still a bit higher than his base-level. Not very trustworthy in my eyes.

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      • ajays
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 90

        Ok - Before and after pic attached. Pardon the picture quality, I have picked these from family pics. Completed 6 months on Keratene i.e. the capsules 2x/day and shampoo/serum 3 times a week + multivitamin (1x/day). I gave up on minox 6 months back, so wanted to try another topical & systemic combination.

        Personally, I do feel there are improvements in my hair in terms of thickness, quality and fallen hair in the shower/comb + i am just glad that I do not have to use minox everyday/suffer from it's sides.
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        • Jcm800
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2011
          • 2614

          ajays - far as i can see, all you've posted about since joining this forum is Keratene, as a hairloss sufferer dont you have any other questions to ask on other topic's, just find it a bit odd that's all..

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          • NeedHairASAP
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1408

            Originally posted by HARIRI
            I just realized that I posted the #1000 post in this thread lol

            This thread had 122,677 views, I wish all members in this forum who experienced the KAR will post their KAR experience in this thread.
            not unique views

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            • Duke
              Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 32

              hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

              Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??

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              • Julian P
                Member
                • May 2013
                • 34

                Originally posted by Duke
                hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

                Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??
                Some are deeply convinced it's a snake oil, but for me the jury is still out.

                My arguments:
                Pro: - the company's own research looks good, they researched hormone values, which is where I think such a product should first look at
                - For a smaller study they cooperated with the University of Ghent. This makes it almost impossible to produce false results.
                - Backed by some doctors and big hairtransplant clinics as Prohair

                con: - two of the members showed negative results with their blood tests *
                - not clear what the ingredients are

                * but I do think at least one of the results was highly unreliable, another showed positive results, but he hasn't posted since.


                Judge yourself, maybe ajays photo is another pro argument, it seems his hair has thickened up somewhat, but his hairline actually looked pretty good to begin with.

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                • HARIRI
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 467

                  Originally posted by Duke
                  hey guys - I dont have time to read the whole thread:

                  Is this Keratene stuff working or just another snake oil product??
                  In my opinion, this product works by reducing the amount of fallen a hair per day. I wont deny that at all. Its not as effective as Finasteride of course as it could halt hair loss and get you some regrowth at the crown area but at least its more effective as an oral alternative than Saw Palmetto.

                  The greatest thing about it that it does NOT give me any sexual sides. My sex life is really great and my morning wood & libido is fully restored since switching from Saw Palmetto to Keratene Alphactive Retard.

                  In my case, Finasteride killed my libido and caused me some ED, Saw Palmetto reduced my libido little bit and affected my morning wood somehow but didnt have any ED.

                  However keep in my mind that if you will take it in the morning, you may feel dizzy. That is why I'm taking it once a day before bedtime. Dizziness is the only side effect I encountered from this product. This is my honest judgement.

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                  • HARIRI
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 467

                    After all Keratene Alphactive Retard is a lifesaver to me for now. I could NOT trade my Sexual life with Hair. Balding will hurt me only but sexual issues will hurt me and my wife. I really wish one day that hair loss will be treated without screwing around with our libido and sexual life. This is the worst side effect in my opinion and I know young guys in the 20's starting taking Cialis or Viagra since starting Finasteride. This is so depressing! Why hair is connected to penis

                    Check this out :-
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                    • ajays
                      Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 90

                      Jcm800,

                      Fair point...and weird too, I do look back at my posts and I realise that I have just been a lurker on other threads on this forum. It is to be noted though that from past year I have been seeing aggressive thinning in my hairline and crown. I looked on the web and tv ads and the answer seemed to be Minoxidil, but that just backfired on me. I was looking for alternatives and I came across this forum among others. Read through pretty much all stuff on fin and other products. I did not feel the need to post anything in these threads cause I was convinced that I will never ever use Fin. Then earlier this year, I saw posts on Keratene on this and other forums, which got me interested. I did my research and decided to give it a try.

                      I can understand your mistrust, but I don't really care. I don't owe anything to you or others on this forum. I have been and will continue to post my experience so far i.e. with Keratene, Minox etc etc and people should be adult enough to decide for themselves whether to use one particular product or the other, just like I did with Fin and Minox. You will notice in all my posts, I have just been stating the facts that I personally observe. I have not been yelling at the top of my voice trying to sell this stuff or convince others to use it.

                      Also, I have not posted any pics since I started on Keratene even though quite a few folks have requested. Primary reason is that hair growth takes time as we all know. I wanted to use the product for at least 6 months before posting any pics. Personally I think it's just naive for people to expect improvements with any product within 3 months. That is just not possible.

                      Having said the above, I will continue to post my experiences, even though my posting abilities/frequency may not be too up to people's expectations.


                      Originally posted by Jcm800
                      ajays - far as i can see, all you've posted about since joining this forum is Keratene, as a hairloss sufferer dont you have any other questions to ask on other topic's, just find it a bit odd that's all..

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                      • ajays
                        Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 90

                        Julian,

                        Thanks for the positive comment on my "before" pic. But honestly, I was just getting freaked out with the state of my hairline and crown compared to what I used to have earlier. It was just crazy to see my hair starting to go bad within a period of 1 year. If I look at my hair, I was more of a NW1 rapidly turning into NW2 or worse. I feel I am getting back to NW1, but I will let ppl judge for themselves.

                        The points you mentioned below are the same I came up with before deciding to give this product a try. Reg the independent blood tests by other users i.e julio and ryan555, though I appreciate the time and effort they put in there are lots of open questions and doubts. First, Julio's blood test results may no sense whichever you look at it. It could be the ELISA method his lab uses or something else, I dont know but they just defy logic. This has been discussed in detail in this and other posts so I will not spend time on it again. Reg ryan555, he was pretty active in this forum for a brief period and now seems to have disappeared. I am really eager to know more updates from him.



                        Originally posted by Julian P
                        Some are deeply convinced it's a snake oil, but for me the jury is still out.

                        My arguments:
                        Pro: - the company's own research looks good, they researched hormone values, which is where I think such a product should first look at
                        - For a smaller study they cooperated with the University of Ghent. This makes it almost impossible to produce false results.
                        - Backed by some doctors and big hairtransplant clinics as Prohair

                        con: - two of the members showed negative results with their blood tests *
                        - not clear what the ingredients are

                        * but I do think at least one of the results was highly unreliable, another showed positive results, but he hasn't posted since.


                        Judge yourself, maybe ajays photo is another pro argument, it seems his hair has thickened up somewhat, but his hairline actually looked pretty good to begin with.

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                        • burtandernie
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 1563

                          If it supposedly works through some interaction with DHT and multiple people get before/after tests and DHT is the same then it doesnt work.
                          Its also kind of expensive for maybe not even working and the time it takes to see any real result. That is the allure of snake oil for MPB the large amount of time it can just not work.

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                          • ajays
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 90

                            So are you saying finasteride gives instant results? Doctors advise to use fin for at least 6 months to 1 year to decide whether it works for an individual.

                            Originally posted by burtandernie
                            If it supposedly works through some interaction with DHT and multiple people get before/after tests and DHT is the same then it doesnt work.
                            Its also kind of expensive for maybe not even working and the time it takes to see any real result. That is the allure of snake oil for MPB the large amount of time it can just not work.

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                            • burtandernie
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1563

                              No I was just saying from the test results people are posting here that it looks like this Keratene stuff does not work. Said nothing nor meant to infer anything about fin.

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                              • ajays
                                Member
                                • Feb 2013
                                • 90

                                ah sure...you mean the couple of guys who posted blood test results? Results of one of the guys make no sense at all (based on the postings in this and other threads) and the second guy seems to have disappeared from the forum.

                                Originally posted by burtandernie
                                No I was just saying from the test results people are posting here that it looks like this Keratene stuff does not work. Said nothing nor meant to infer anything about fin.

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