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  • clandestine
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 2002

    Originally posted by LongWayHome
    Alright people, I'm off the capsules.
    When I was using fin I had a very nice side effect: shrinkage. (yea, that)
    At first I thought it's my imagination and said "that doesn't even make any sense.." but then when I touched it I could feel something's weird...
    Then I stopped fin, and started Keratene, and yay the same thing...
    Most people get sexual side effects, well then I'm with another one.

    I'm still on the topicals though, and going to start RU soon, hopfully that combination (with minox but that's not new) will give me at least maintenance.

    Anyway good luck to all of you who don't get this one of a kind side effect.
    Rather unfortunate. Have you tried the serum (ultra)? Maybe a low dose of RU you'd be fine with. I'm supremely gyno prone, and currently use RU at 10mg (1%), really low dosage. Recommended is 50mg.

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    • Conpecia
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 904

      Originally posted by clandestine
      Rather unfortunate. Have you tried the serum (ultra)? Maybe a low dose of RU you'd be fine with. I'm supremely gyno prone, and currently use RU at 10mg (1%), really low dosage. Recommended is 50mg.
      Have you had any flare ups with gyno since switching to RU?

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      • Jcm800
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 2614

        Originally posted by Cob984
        i have the same one lol , but i dont care as long as i can still get it up,
        please let me know how RU works and if and what sides you get, iv tempted to try it
        Originally posted by Jcm800
        You mean your pecker has shrunk as well cob?
        Sorry cob, that came across condescending. I'm thinking of trying this, but if shrinkage is indeed a side, I'll think again.

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        • burtandernie
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 1563

          I dont get why finasteride does not come in different strengths or an easy to cut pill to get into tiny pieces I mean it should be encouraged to men to inhibit 25% DHT or a very small amount first to see how that goes before going crazy. Lowing DHT small amounts might be much better in many cases but .25 mg is the only practical way to split a pill and that inhibits a lot more then 25%

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          • clandestine
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 2002

            Originally posted by Conpecia
            Have you had any flare ups with gyno since switching to RU?
            With anything above 20mg, yes. At 50mg I get gyno sides.

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            • LongWayHome
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 183

              Originally posted by clandestine
              With anything above 20mg, yes. At 50mg I get gyno sides.
              Hey man, have you maintained with the RU?

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              • HARIRI
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 467

                Anyone here is using Keratene Alphactive Retard along with RU58441? They seems like having same mechanism somehow. Please share your experience if you do.

                By the way, I noticed that ever since I stopped my daily Saw Palmetto 500mg and started with one capsule of Keratene Alphactive Retard, my morning wood came back and my libido is like the one I had prior my hair loss period. Pretty interesting.

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                • ajays
                  Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 90

                  Great. Any changes it terms of quality of hair?

                  I have also started using the Keratene shampoo/serum. I think i like it so far compared to other organic/in-organic shampoos i have been using so far (ever). Adds some volume to hair and does not make the hair look greasy. Whether it helps in terms of topical DHT reduction in the long term, only time will tell.

                  Originally posted by HARIRI
                  Anyone here is using Keratene Alphactive Retard along with RU58441? They seems like having same mechanism somehow. Please share your experience if you do.

                  By the way, I noticed that ever since I stopped my daily Saw Palmetto 500mg and started with one capsule of Keratene Alphactive Retard, my morning wood came back and my libido is like the one I had prior my hair loss period. Pretty interesting.

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                  • clandestine
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 2002

                    Originally posted by LongWayHome
                    Hey man, have you maintained with the RU?
                    Not really, considering the dosage I'm taking. I take 10mg. Some people to as far as 100mg, though, with no issue.

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                    • UK Boy
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 240

                      Originally posted by clandestine
                      Not really, considering the dosage I'm taking. I take 10mg. Some people to as far as 100mg, though, with no issue.
                      So RU isn't allowing you to maintain? What benefit are you getting from it then?

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                      • clandestine
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 2002

                        Originally posted by UK Boy
                        So RU isn't allowing you to maintain? What benefit are you getting from it then?
                        Let me clarify;

                        I'm not taking a high enough dosage of RU to see an appreciable effect. I am very susceptible to sides experienced from anti-androgens.

                        My only option is to take a low dosage of RU, as it doesn't 'bother' me, so to speak. Taking a low dose is better than taking nothing, in my mind. It may have minimal effect, and that's all that matters, considering I can't take anything else.

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                        • HARIRI
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 467

                          Originally posted by clandestine
                          Let me clarify;

                          I'm not taking a high enough dosage of RU to see an appreciable effect. I am very susceptible to sides experienced from anti-androgens.

                          My only option is to take a low dosage of RU, as it doesn't 'bother' me, so to speak. Taking a low dose is better than taking nothing, in my mind. It may have minimal effect, and that's all that matters, considering I can't take anything else.
                          I like your strategy and I'm thinking the same way of how you think. I'm very worried of high doses in anything I am taking. The reason why I'm going to take ONLY 1% RU is because I'm already taking one capsule of Keratene which its proven that it can reduce DHT level by 25%, also I'm applying Minoxidil 5% once a day as I noticed that applying it twice gives some forehead wrinkles, dark eye circles and itching sensation. So I wont risk with 5% RU at all, probably 2% maximum if needed but sense i am managing to maintain my DHT with Keratene then I don't think its needed to go for RU 2% since they almost do the same job after all. Its always good to stick with lower doses disregard which product it is.

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                          • Conpecia
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 904

                            FINALLY ordered Keratene capsules. Should be here in a couple weeks. Started minox two days ago, once a day at around 5:30PM when I get off work, then washing it off before bed about 7 hours later (the instructions say leave it on at least 4 hours). So far so good, eyes and face don't look as puffy or worn as they did last time I tried rogaine foam. Gonna order a good facial wash and some cream for under my eyes. Then I'll add 1 Keratene capsule a day, play the waiting game for the summer, and see what happens...

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                            • HARIRI
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 467

                              Originally posted by Conpecia
                              FINALLY ordered Keratene capsules. Should be here in a couple weeks. Started minox two days ago, once a day at around 5:30PM when I get off work, then washing it off before bed about 7 hours later (the instructions say leave it on at least 4 hours). So far so good, eyes and face don't look as puffy or worn as they did last time I tried rogaine foam. Gonna order a good facial wash and some cream for under my eyes. Then I'll add 1 Keratene capsule a day, play the waiting game for the summer, and see what happens...
                              Glad to hear this. Welcome to the club CONpecia

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                              • clandestine
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2011
                                • 2002

                                Ill be following you closely Conpecia! Good steps forward.

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