KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[big time charlie]

from another forum where we are also discussing keratene (you can never have too much conversation right!?)

""I use the topicals either - Shampoo and Serum. I thought too that it's maybe dangerous to combine the capsules and the topicals but Chris Anderson who works at Keratene told me this:

"In fact, we actually recommend using a combination of topical products and capsules, as it provides the best and most efficient protection against alopecia.Keep in mind that the products are designed for the maintenance of the existing hair density.""

I had been taking one capsule on the days I apply the serum along with nizarol twice a week anyway.

Started mnox this week too....wow.....have so much stuff to do with hair all of a sudden! How would you advise using the serum those days when using minox too? serum first and then minox or vice versa?

[ajays]

Capsules + Serum = OK
Capsules + Minox = Ok
Serum + Minox = CHEMICAL SHOCK. IMHO, Don't do it. Also, Keratene folks advise against it.

from another forum where we are also discussing keratene (you can never have too much conversation right!?)

""I use the topicals either - Shampoo and Serum. I thought too that it's maybe dangerous to combine the capsules and the topicals but Chris Anderson who works at Keratene told me this:

"In fact, we actually recommend using a combination of topical products and capsules, as it provides the best and most efficient protection against alopecia.Keep in mind that the products are designed for the maintenance of the existing hair density.""

I had been taking one capsule on the days I apply the serum along with nizarol twice a week anyway.

Started mnox this week too....wow.....have so much stuff to do with hair all of a sudden! How would you advise using the serum those days when using minox too? serum first and then minox or vice versa?

[HARIRI]

Capsules + Serum = OK
Capsules + Minox = Ok
Serum + Minox = CHEMICAL SHOCK. IMHO, Don't do it. Also, Keratene folks advise against it.

I agree with ajays. Im using recently one capsule of Keratene and Rogaine (Minoxidil 5%) once a night as a topical. However I might also add RU58441 (strength 1%) only from (www.mpbtreatments.com) once a night soon to my regime.

[everest13]

Does having more testosterone increase the rate at which your body hair and facial hair grows?

Since i've started taking the capsules i've noticed my body hair and facial hair grow back much faster.

[Cob984]

I agree with ajays. Im using recently one capsule of Keratene and Rogaine (Minoxidil 5%) once a night as a topical. However I might also add RU58441 (strength 1%) only from (www.mpbtreatments.com) once a night soon to my regime.

keep us updated if you do, very tempted to try RU myself

[ajays]

Have there been any clinical trials on RU58441 and do any docs recommend it? I have been hearing lot of good stuff about it but no reliable sources.

THe only reason I decided to use Keratene even though the capsules are still new is because of their clinical trial results and separate trial results from prohair clinic. It would be great to get some reliable references on RU58441.

I agree with ajays. Im using recently one capsule of Keratene and Rogaine (Minoxidil 5%) once a night as a topical. However I might also add RU58441 (strength 1%) only from (www.mpbtreatments.com) once a night soon to my regime.

[FearTheLoss]

anyone actually feel like Keratene is helping their loss?

[HARIRI]

anyone actually feel like Keratene is helping their loss?

To be honest, its been 2 weeks since I started. I feel I have less hair falling every morning. Everyday before I shower, I usually oil my hair with coconut oil due to the dry nature of my hair. So after applying the oil I comb my hair backwards, I found out that the hair on my comb is much less than before. In my opinion, it definitely helps maintaining hair.

[FearTheLoss]

Awesome, I ordered my first batch. Let's pray this maintains until histogen or aderans arrives

[big time charlie]

I thought as much regarding the minox and serum, overkill. Im only using minox once a day before bed,tapering onto it. I have noticed less hair fall too. feels good to be doing something about the hair loss. I have a #1 blade haircut at the moment, Im actually enjoying it. No maintenance at all! Also Im thinking it might be better for when the inevitable minox shed arrives. A bad shed would have really killed my longer hair, was getting a bit on the sparse side already! : /

[everest13]

I've been on the capsules for 5 weeks now. My family just found out I was taking them and are against them since they are not FDA approved. They would much rather me take finasteride since the long term side affects of keratene are not known. I'm not sure whether i should continue with keratene, or switch to finasteride.

[hellouser]

I've been on the capsules for 5 weeks now. My family just found out I was taking them and are against them since they are not FDA approved. They would much rather me take finasteride since the long term side affects of keratene are not known. I'm not sure whether i should continue with keratene, or switch to finasteride.

What did they say about FDA approving finasteride even though it can cause permanent impotence?

[HARIRI]

My family just found out I was taking them and are against them since they are not FDA approved. They would much rather me take finasteride since the long term side affects of keratene are not known. I'm not sure whether i should continue with keratene, or switch to finasteride.

Everest13, Tell your family that this product is European and not an American thus it doesn't need to be a FDA approved in order to be produced and sold. Amercian FDA isn't a bible to follow. European advanced countries also have their own health legislation which didn't mind producing it as its not considered as a drug but only a supplement. Its only a sterol complex with some plant extracts. Its made in the Netherlands which I find it a very advanced country with strict health control.

[ajays]

Does anyone have any feedback to share on the Keratene shampoo and serum? I am seriously thinking to try them out since I am off minox now.

I have been off minox for couple of weeks and now my face looks like 5 years younger. Forehead wrinkles are almost gone, no puffy eyes, no bloated face, no dry lips/scaling, no brain fog and my face no longer feels like it has been plastic wrapped, if you know what i mean. Wow !! If i can now just maintain my hair, I would love to look young with some diffused hair and no longer have to turn back to minox and probably look old with lots of hair.

[Conpecia]

I've been on the capsules for 5 weeks now. My family just found out I was taking them and are against them since they are not FDA approved. They would much rather me take finasteride since the long term side affects of keratene are not known. I'm not sure whether i should continue with keratene, or switch to finasteride.

The only reason I am even considering Keratene capsules is because Fin destroyed my libido and gave me gynecomastia (man boobs). So if your family is concerned about the safety profile of Keratene, they should know that Keratene exists as an alternative to people who cannot take Finasteride due to side effects.

That being said, I took Finasteride for 6 years with minimal side effects, and maintained my hair for the most part. Unfortunately, in the 7th year, for whatever reason, everything went to hell. I love what's left of my hair, but man boobs are unacceptable.

I personally would start on low doses of Finasteride (.25mg every other day) and work my way up to about .5mg a day. See if you can tolerate it. If you can't, switch to Keratene. I'm not sure Keratene is something I would start with, particularly because it is as of now unproven whereas tons of people use Finasteride effectively. If Finasteride doesn't work you can always come back to Keratene. Just my 2 cents...