KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

[hellouser]

Believe it or not, since I quit taking my Saw Palmetto product and started taking Keratene Alphactive Retard instead. I restored my whole libido and erections got harder. I even started to restore back my morning wood daily. I think Saw Palmetto was affecting it negatively little bit. I'm so over the moon for the mean time. Now I do believe that its libido sides free.

How long was has it been since you quit Saw Palmetto?

[HARIRI]

Ever since I quit from using Propecia back in 2007. I started it in 2008 with a saw palmetto extract dose of 500mg per day then I lowered it to 300mg daily with Hairomega DHT product. Keratene does contain Beta Sitosterol so I think I will blame it on the saw palmetto little bit. But still Saw Palmetto isn't that lethal as Finasteride, It seems that it reduced my libido and morning wood little but Finasteride killed it lol.

[Conpecia]

Why dont you take Rogaine? I think Minoxidil is more effective that Capillogain for the hair growth. Its more clinically approved.

Capillogain ingredients are

AQUA, ALCOHOL DENAT., PHOSPHATIDYLCHOLINE, LINOLENIC ACID, PYRROLIDINYL DIAMINOPYRIMIDINE OXIDE, SOPHORA FLAVESCENS EXTRACT, CREATINE, ARGININE, RED GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, HORDEUM VULGARE EXTRACT, CHAMAECYPARIS OBTUSA OIL, ASIASARI RADIX EXTRACT, RASPBERRY KETONE, CYANOCOBALAMIN, BIOTIN.

I got these info from here

http://www.amazon.com/Capillogain%C2%AE-Anti-Hairloss-System-women-Germany/dp/B009GG22ZU

What are the hair growth agents in there???

There should be a minox-like agent called triaminodil and all the other stuff helps it synergistically.

I don't take minox because it gives me dark circles, wrinkles and bloating. It ages the face and my face is more important than hair.

[HARIRI]

There should be a minox-like agent called triaminodil and all the other stuff helps it synergistically.

I don't take minox because it gives me dark circles, wrinkles and bloating. It ages the face and my face is more important than hair.

Here more info I got from their official website

http://www.functional-products.net/produkte/capillogain-tonic.html

Capillogain ® Tonic is a world first with their effectiveness scientifically proven hair growth promoting agents.

The agents are at Capillogain ® Tonic encapsulated in tiny called microspheres, through which the drugs are transported directly to the hair follicles. Their time-delayed release, the microspheres smoother high drug levels obtained for a long time up to the scalp and thus achieve a greater effectiveness as a simple alcohol and water mixtures. Here you can a light microscope image of the microspheres in Capillogain ® look Tonic: microspheres

Capillogain ® Tonic contains no allergenic propylene glycol (PG), no parabens or artificial colors and preservatives.

Capillogain ® Tonic contains little alcohol, so it is skin-friendly than many commercial products, which often enhalten a high percentage of alcohol and propylene glycol.
Capillogain ® Tonic contains only natural preservatives such as Hinoki oil, which act simultaneously hair growth effects.

This timesaving pleasant use of Capillogain ® Tonic is or twice a day, preferably morning and evening. A 100ml bottle Capillogain ® Tonic enough for about 1 month.

The active ingredients in Capillogain ® Tonic in their efficacy on scientific evidence, it agreed to promote the positive factors of the hair growth and inhibit the negative factors.

Agents in Capillogain ® Tonic

procyanidin B - 3
has the potential to the growth inhibitory effect
of transforming growth factor beta 1 (TGF-β1)

Acid (GLA)
inhibits 5-alpha reductase (5AR) types 1 and 2,
has

Ketone
increases the expression of insulin-like growth factor 1

Asiasari Radix Extract
increases the expression of vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15862941

Triaminodil (Proderma Srl - Italy)
Poster P-186 on page

Several clinical studies)
latest clinical trial (the product contains the active ingredient Aminotril Triaminodil) Sophora flavescens extract increases the expression of IGF-1 and keratinocyte growth factor (KGF), inhibits the 5AR type 1 and 2, inhibits the synthesis of prostaglandin D2 (PGD2 ) , has antibacterial properties, for example against Propionibacterium


Ginseng Root Extract
inhibits 5 A R,
increases the expression of

the energy balance of the cell,
the mitochondria protects against free radicals (reactive oxygen species (ROS))
and therefore reduces the cell suicide (apoptosis)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16098029

L-Arginine
L -Arginine increases the expression of nitric oxide (NO) and thereby increases the blood circulation to the hair roots.
L-Arginine reduced the expression of the hair-growth-inhibiting TGF-beta.
L-Arginine in the hair as the amino acid building block

B12
interacts synergistically with

is an essential micronutrient for maintaining normal cellular functions.
biotin deficiency leads to pathological changes in the dermatological

Oil
increases the expression of VEGF,
has an antibacterial and antifungal

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X09001452

phosphatidylcholines (PC)
is converted into Phosphatidic Acid which again the growth inhibitory effects
of TGF-beta1 and neutralized the cells from apoptosis protects

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12925199

For a description of ausdührliche Capillogain ® Tonic please click here .

Ingredients
AQUA, ALCOHOL DENAT., phosphatidylcholines, Linolenic Acid, pyrrolidinyl Diaminopyrimidine OXIDE, Sophora flavescens EXTRACT, CREATINE, ARGININE, RED GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, Hordeum vulgare EXTRACT, Chamaecyparis obtusa OIL, asiasari RADIX EXTRACT, RASPBERRY KETONE, Vitamin B12, Biotin


If I were you I would try Spectral DNC-N, I find it more credible that this product. DS laboratories are more official and well known. Plus they formulated this for people who get sides from Minoxidil.

http://www.dslaboratories.ro/international/shop/spectral-dnc-n/

Spectral.DNC-N – THE WORLD’S FIRST TREATMENT WITH NANOXIDIL™
• A unique innovation featuring 5% Nanoxidil™
• Ultra premium research-grade materials
• Latest encapsulation technology
• Designed to surpass the efficacy of minoxidil therapy

Spectral.DNC-N is the latest advance from DS Laboratories designed to surpass the limitations of minoxidil therapy. The first treatment to utilize Nanoxidil™, this compound is a complex matrix that opens ions channels within cells and exerts multiple mechanisms of action to address over a dozen triggers that lead to hair fall out.

A true innovation, Nanoxidil™ dramatically increases hair density and promotes the overall health of the scalp. This is combined in a comprehensive formulation in Spectral DNC-N with multiple auxiliary agents implementing a unique multi-lateral therapy. The molecule responsible for the ion channel opening effect has a lower molecular weight than minoxidil and features several important advantages over the now outdated minoxidil compound.

This product also features the latest nanosome encapsulation technology to enable more targeted absorption to the base of the hair follicle.

Ingredients:
DEIONIZED WATER, HYDROLYZED LUPINE PROTEIN, PANAX GINSENG ROOT EXTRACT, NANOXIDIL (5%), ADENOSINE, BUTYLENE GLYCOL, AMINEXIL, ARGININE, PHOSPHOLIPIDS (NANOSOMES), ACETYL TYROSINE, STEM CELLS,PPG-26-BUTETH-26, ARCTIUM MAJUS ROOT EXTRACT, HYDROLYZED SOY PROTEIN, PROCYANIDIN B2, POLYQUATERNIUM-11, PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL, PEG 12 DIMETHICONE, CETRIMONIUM CHLORIDE, CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, APIGENIN, ETHANOL, ISOLAURETH-6, ZINC GLUCONATE, TAURINE, PREZATIDE COPPER ACETATE (COPPER PEPTIDE), NIACINAMIDE, OLEANOLIC ACID, ORNITHINE HCL, CITRULLINE, RETINOL, GLUCOSAMINE HCL, PROPYLENE GLYCOL, PEG-8 DIMETHICONE, T-FLAVANONE, BIOTINOYL TRIPEPTIDE, BIOTIN, DIMETHICONOL, SILICONE QUATERNIUM-2 PANTHENOL SUCCINATECONE QUATERNIUM-2 PANTHENOL SUCCINAT

[HARIRI]

By the way, I like your screen name. Conpecia which is the opposite of Propecia

[ajays]

Good eye Hariri

By the way, I like your screen name. Conpecia which is the opposite of Propecia

[ajays]

Conpecia,
I got itchy rashes, dry lips, bloating, puffy eyes with minox (once a day). But I think this was after I started using the derma roller. Probably more minox started getting into the bloodstream. Were u using the roller as well? Also, how many days or weeks did it take for the side effects to subside?

For me it's been a week since I stopped minox. The bloating and puffy eyes are gone, but I still have some itchy skin and dry lips.

There should be a minox-like agent called triaminodil and all the other stuff helps it synergistically.

I don't take minox because it gives me dark circles, wrinkles and bloating. It ages the face and my face is more important than hair.

[HARIRI]

I agree when I was using Rogaine twice a day, I experienced the dark eye circles with little forehead wrinkles and now after lowering the dose to one per day, it almost disappeared and my wife thinks I have gone for Botox lol. Damn these treatments, they always have down sides. I'm shit scared to quit Minoxidil as I know well that I'm going to lose many hair beyond the transplanted area. Anyways I'm happy with the once a day regime. By the way, ajays. Where did you buy this Derma Roller from? I'm interested to use it as I don't really like to wash the Nanogen fibres before bedtime. I try to limit washing my hair to not lose natural hair oil and stick to one shampooing every morning.

[ajays]

Got the roller from amazon (e.g link below). Use it with caution, if you see any of the side effects that has been mentioned before on this thread, stop using the roller immediately. I wish I had stopped it earlier, initially I had thought the rashes were due to dry weather allergies but then i saw i was turning into a zombie face - no kidding.

http://www.amazon.com/MicroNeedle-Roller-Dermatology-Therapy-System/dp/B004LUVN10/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1362664285&sr=8-4&keywords=derma+roller

I agree when I was using Rogaine twice a day, I experienced the dark eye circles with little forehead wrinkles and now after lowering the dose to one per day, it almost disappeared and my wife thinks I have gone for Botox lol. Damn these treatments, they always have down sides. I'm shit scared to quit Minoxidil as I know well that I'm going to lose many hair beyond the transplanted area. Anyways I'm happy with the once a day regime. By the way, ajays. Where did you buy this Derma Roller from? I'm interested to use it as I don't really like to wash the Nanogen fibres before bedtime. I try to limit washing my hair to not lose natural hair oil and stick to one shampooing every morning.

[Conpecia]

By the way, I like your screen name. Conpecia which is the opposite of Propecia

Heh, was in an angry mood when I joined BTT

[Conpecia]

Conpecia,
I got itchy rashes, dry lips, bloating, puffy eyes with minox (once a day). But I think this was after I started using the derma roller. Probably more minox started getting into the bloodstream. Were u using the roller as well? Also, how many days or weeks did it take for the side effects to subside?

For me it's been a week since I stopped minox. The bloating and puffy eyes are gone, but I still have some itchy skin and dry lips.

Nope I was just using it once a night however I was using it immediately before bed and I just read that you're supposed to use it 2 hours before bed so it dries. Maybe it was getting on my pillow and face? All I know is I looked worn out and had to stop. Hopefully capillogain will be better, there's way less triaminodil in cap than minox in Rogaine.

[HARIRI]

Two weeks passed and Im noticing much less hair fall every morning. I usually oil my hair with coconut oil before shampooing because of the dry nature of my hair. I noticed less hair falling while oiling my hair and scalp. I used to see around 10-15 hairs and now almost 5 only. So far I am very pleased. Also my morning wood is hard as ever which means Saw Palmetto was effecting the hardness of it slightly. Bare in my mind that I am taking only one capsule a day. How about you guys? What did you notice with using it? Please share.

[GuyFromUK]

Hi Hariri

Thanks for the update. I am not taking Keratene myself yet so I cant add much, but thanks for keeping us updated on your progress.

If it does work then I imagine you might go through some sort of shed at some point in the next 9 months, so don't give up at the first hurdle if you suddenly start losing more hairs, try and stick with it. It's great that your sides have gone from the saw palmetto!

I am considering making a switch from propecia to Keratene in 6 months if people start posting positive reviews of its effect on hair. Is anyone else out there considering making the same switch?

[ajays]

Hariri,

I have been on it for 10 days now, no serious side effects. Couple of days back I had some fatigue but not sure if it was because of Keratene (body needs to get comfortable with the drop in DHT, if at all it has dropped) or because of work. Feeling all good now.

Regarding hair fall, it is curious that you say that. I was on a minox shed for the past of couple of weeks or so. It has been a week since I stopped using minox due to side effects. I am seeing substantially less hair shed since 2 days. Again, not sure if it's because I stopped minox or whether Keratene helped. All in all, I "feel" that I my hair is getting more manageable and a touch thicker compared to the situation before Keratene. Hopefully these are positive signs, will continue to use it and update again in the near future.

Two weeks passed and Im noticing much less hair fall every morning. I usually oil my hair with coconut oil before shampooing because of the dry nature of my hair. I noticed less hair falling while oiling my hair and scalp. I used to see around 10-15 hairs and now almost 5 only. So far I am very pleased. Also my morning wood is hard as ever which means Saw Palmetto was effecting the hardness of it slightly. Bare in my mind that I am taking only one capsule a day. How about you guys? What did you notice with using it? Please share.

[ilovebacon]

if you're having adverse reactions to minox you should go to a sauna or russian/turkish bath house, not use it for a couple of days, and never use it after showering. i thought i was allergic to it for months and read about it going to the sauna online to remedy the situation. BOOM! back in business baby. seriously. no joke! just don't use too much. i don't come to this site often anymore, so i'm not interested in a conversation but this will definitely help!!!

GOOD LUCK!!!!