KÉRATENE Alphactive ® Retard

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  • Jcm800
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 2614

    I've lost faith in this product, where are they? They've got access to the site, doesn't look good at all really.

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    • youngin
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2010
      • 338

      If you want information then email them. They seem to be very responsive.

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      • HARIRI
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 467

        "a comparative uncontrolled trial conducted 3 years ago in Asia, on Kératene. The subjects ate whatever their heart desired, with odd consequences. Their DHT levels went up or remained unchanged when they were suppose to go down. On a closer observation, the study reveled that all, with no exception, ate soy and sterol-rich foods, which are typical for Asia."

        This is really interesting. Kinda worries me, because I eat Thai food twice a week. I dont mind if its unchanged in these 2 days but DHT level going up! No way. Where did you get this statement from Buddy?

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        • Ted
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 156

          Originally posted by youngin
          I think everyone taking this product should be aware of this (from Keratene tech support):
          I thought soy products decreased DHT levels. As can be read here:
          http://www.****************/interact...te-Reduces-DHT

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          • youngin
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 338

            Originally posted by HARIRI
            This is really interesting. Kinda worries me, because I eat Thai food twice a week. I dont mind if its unchanged in these 2 days but DHT level going up! No way. Where did you get this statement from Buddy?
            I said where I got it. Keratene tech support. Via email.

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            • youngin
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 338

              Originally posted by Ted
              I thought soy products decreased DHT levels. As can be read here:
              http://www.****************/interact...te-Reduces-DHT
              The study quoted at the first post is comparing Milk Protein Isolate to Soy products. It's not comparing a baseline. Milk has absolutely been proven to cause acne which is driven by DHT. I would not be surprised if Milk increased DHT levels. NO, I don't have a study to back that up, however I do have a study to backup the Milk/Acne connection if wanted.

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              • HARIRI
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 467

                Can anyone tell me which is more effective? Saw Palmetto or Keratene Alphactive Retard? Has anyone used saw palmetto before and is using Keratene at the moment?

                I would love to hear your opinion. These two are the only proven alternatives to Finasteride. Any idea please?

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                • Julian P
                  Member
                  • May 2013
                  • 34

                  Originally posted by HARIRI
                  Can anyone tell me which is more effective? Saw Palmetto or Keratene Alphactive Retard? Has anyone used saw palmetto before and is using Keratene at the moment?

                  I would love to hear your opinion. These two are the only proven alternatives to Finasteride. Any idea please?
                  For me, saw palmetto didn't do that much, although I may have stopped using it too soon.

                  Based on their own results, Kar would be more effective. But you can only know for sure if you try it yourself (for long enough and with blood tests).

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    SP does need time like all other treatments but the effects are minimal.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      Originally posted by HARIRI
                      Can anyone tell me which is more effective? Saw Palmetto or Keratene Alphactive Retard? Has anyone used saw palmetto before and is using Keratene at the moment?

                      I would love to hear your opinion. These two are the only proven alternatives to Finasteride. Any idea please?
                      Saw Palmetto - cheaper too.

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                      • HARIRI
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 467

                        Originally posted by UK_
                        Saw Palmetto - cheaper too.
                        Yeah, because I didn't see that dramatic change after 3 months of taking Keratene Alphactive Retard, it reduced the hair fall a bit but not that much difference than my previous HairOmega DHT product which is only $17 per bottle and contains super ingredients. I attached some photos of the product, you can have a look at it as I attached its photos (front and back). My Keratene supply will finish after 3 days. I may go back then to HairOmega DHT (Saw Palmetto 300mg+Beta Sitosterol 300mg+Other). Whats your opinion Guys?
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                        • Julian P
                          Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 34

                          Three months is not enough to see dramatic changes. I gues even finasteride won't give you visible results in 3 months.
                          Don't ever expect something dramatic with each of the products we have nowadays, preservation is the best you should hope for.

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                          • Julian P
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 34

                            Originally posted by HARIRI
                            I may go back then to HairOmega DHT (Saw Palmetto 300mg+Beta Sitosterol 300mg+Other). Whats your opinion Guys?

                            If you would go back to SP, 40-45% of active components is a pretty low. You should go for standardized saw palmetto, with +85% of them. If it does anything at all, you really need those components.

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                            • HARIRI
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 467

                              Originally posted by Julian P
                              If you would go back to SP, 40-45% of active components is a pretty low. You should go for standardized saw palmetto, with +85% of them. If it does anything at all, you really need those components.
                              How about this one?

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                              • burtandernie
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 1563

                                I used saw palmetto a long time ago as a first attempt at doing something. You need the standardized 85 percent sterols and I personally would go with gel caps because I feel they absorb better and that is often over looked.
                                For me saw palmetto had effects similar to finasteride. I quit and just figured im better off just using a low dose of propecia instead then I know its at least helping my hair

                                This is what I used although its a little pricey maybe you can find equivalent somewhere else.

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