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Alright people I got the pills.
Tomorrow I'll take the first pill, and...
If I'm not commenting until friday, please call 911.
Tomorrow I'll take the first pill, and...
If I'm not commenting until friday, please call 911.
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You guys have no idea how much I hope this product does what they are claiming it does. I am so sick of fin sides but scared shitless of losing my hair. I'm also pretty damn optimistic that we're 2-3 years away from a breakthrough treatment. If I can just hold out with Keratene I will never be bald!! We need some more info on this; I guess there haven't been trials? Is there anybody reading this who's been taking the pills for a couple months? And would using them in conjunction with the shampoo work even better? So many questions and yet I'm not finding much info on other forums.
I will literally cry tears of joy if this works like fin without sides. I'm gonna suffer through fin for another month or two, hopefully that will be enough time to get a feel for the efficacy.Comment
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right now im using Vitamin research products Bio DIm that i bought in singapore, however i am now in india and almost run out of that so im going to use some local DIM thats not BIODIM, so many websites dont ship DIM here because of restrictions it blows,
this is what i was using anyway:
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Guys, I just placed an order today. Im going to stop taking my HairOmega DHT supplement (Saw Palmetto+Beta Sitosterol) and start taking this one as a replacement. I hope and pray that I wont suffer from sexual sides and libido issues. Its very hard to face them if you are a married person :-(
LongWayHome, Please keep up updated Bro :-)Comment
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I contacted the person in charge of the company Mr. Marc Costin from Holland and he actually answered all of my questions with full confidence and asked his employee to send me further details. Here are some:-
What is Keratene?
Keratene is a a French brand invented in 1947 by a French pioneer in the cosmetic industry.
The brand was taken over by its current owner, Hairclinics Netherlands, in 2010.
The pronunciation is as such, purely French and sounds more like Ke – as in Kenya, Ra- as in Ramon, Ten – as in the number 10, and not like Keratin.
It is important that the public retains the correct spelling so that no confusion arises.
What no one heard about it?
The brand itself is rather unknown due to the fact that it is an European native product, with little exports.
Since its re-introduction in 2010, it become slightly more known.
It will take some time until the product will become more known. Given that fact that in Europe and other countries advertising of any form of medical products or dietary supplements with claims that are not approved in the directive 26, is strictly forbidden, it will takes a few years.
What is Keratene alphactive Retarde?
The product you talked about, respectively Keratene alphactive Retarde is very new, just launched last year, in Berlin, at the annual meeting of the FUE Europe society.
Keratene alphactive Retarde is a systemic 5ard enzyme catalyse inhibitor and an indirect DHT depressor (not suppressor).
How does it work?
The molecules works not by inhibiting the production of 5ard enzyme or by regulation the secretion of hormones, but rather by attaching itself by electro-chemical valence to the 5ard enzyme and acting as an insulating factor.
As such, the transfer of atoms of hydrogen to the testosterone molecule happens in a lower ratio.
This leads in turn to an overall reduction of DHT.
As such, the 5ard enzyme production and the testosterone hormone are left untouched.
The only thing which happens in a lesser amount, is the transformation of T into DHT.
How much will reduce the DHT level?
The product work on the “work on what you have” principle.
In other words, it lowers DHT dynamically, adaptable, according to the total amount of DHT available in the body. Men with very high DHT levels can expect a large reduction, with a factor of 2, 3 or 4, whereas men with little DHT, can expect a reduction with just 35 to 70%.
Does it contains the usual Saw palmetto extracts?
No, Keratene alphactive Retarde does not include Saw Palmetto or any forms of commonly used plants for prostate supplements.
It is a proprietary mix of various organic substances and enzyme catalyst aggregators, not synthetically engineered.
Are there differences between KaR and finasteride?
Yes. Keratene alphactive Retarde is completely different than finasteride.
Finasteride is a synthetically engineered molecule, with specific chemical properties.
Keratene alphactive Retarde is an organic compound, not synthetically engineered.
Finasteride has the chemical potential to penetrate the blood brain barrier (see latest FDA updates on fda.gov) and has the bio-chemical potential to influence the pineal gland, the processes that coordinate the production of lutropin, the correlation of the sex-binding hormone globulin, dhea, and many other related factors.
In addition, it may increase on the long run the risk on malign prostate neoplasm with roughly 1.6%.
Because the body perceives its molecule as a foreign chemical, the metabolic processes employed by the body to follows the same pathways as any other medication (see cytokine reduction), whereas in regard to KaR, the body process the substance as an organic element.
Is it safe?
The product is safer than any other alternative available on the market today.
It does not interfere with the endocrine production of hormones, of hormone precursors, of enzymes or related peptides. It also does not influence the shbg or lutropin, fact that defines its “libido-friendly” characteristic.
In other words... enjoy the goods without the damage.
Up to date, no user reported any sort of erectile dysfunction or libido problems.
Are there side effects?
KaR may present several direct side-effects and several indirect side-effects.
They are indirect due to the fact that they are not cause by the product itself but rather by the effect of having a lower DHT level than the body is used to.
One direct side-effects is known from the use of the topical products and that is transient paresthesia (tingling of the skin). This effects is normal, known for several years and can last up to 7 hours after administration and was reported by less than 1% of the tested population.
Another potential side-effect is mild seborrhea, especially on the topical products.
Indirect side-effects, not caused by the product itself but by the reduced levels of DHT on the body are:
fatigue, reduced athletic performance, transient reversible mild cognitive impairment (TRMCI - popular "brain fog/haze"), mild head-aches, nausea.
Such effects generally dissipate after two or three weeks of administration, once the body accommodates to the new, reduced DHT levels.
Such effects are reported in less than 1% of the tested population and may have other, idiopathic causes or contributing factors as well, such as lack of proper nutrition, stress, prior underlying conditions, etc.
Is it a medical product or not?
The product is not a registered medicine in the traditional sense, like ibuprofen is for instance.
the costs associated with such registration in todays’ terms are completely prohibitive.
This is one of the major reasons that nowadays in Europe there are no small of middle-sized private pharmaceutical companies that bring innovative products on the market.
The average costs only for the safety assessment, clinical trials and registration procedure for each new product are estimated at minimum 6 million euro ( ~8 mill USD) for a period or 6 years, and this amount excludes the research and development needed prior to its public testing and application for registration.
Depending on the legislation of each country, the product is sold as dietary supplement or, in specific countries, as registered phytomedical (registered medical product based on plant extracts).
In Europe it is labeled under the applicable legislation for dietary supplements.
As such, under the current legislation, we, like many other small innovative companies, are forced to operate under the law that regulates foods, rather than medical products.
We are aware that the titling may not be very appealing or trust-inspiring for the consumer (herbs! dietary supplements!), but we must comply with the legal requirements.
To conclude, here are a few of the main key benefits:
1 fast catalyse inhibition with low bioaccumulation, free of 17-beta-estradiol disruptors
2 evident DHT reduction up to 4 times, comparable to synthetic -steride alternatives
3 ssbg/lutropin/fsh bio-chemically neutral formula, virtually no impact on libidoComment
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hi guys all we really want to know does it regrow hair or not and do you need to still use minoxidil?Comment
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hi i notice that 180 caps 3 months supply will cost about Ł38 eu a month which for a natural product is a bit pricey,also if you buy there complete set it is a lot if i tried it i think i would use just the caps with topical minox.Comment
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hi guys if you buy 180 three months supply it is Ł111.38 uk pounds.Comment
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You really need to use the Minoxidil 5% because it works differently than Keratine Alphactive Retard. Because the last one controls the affect of DHT on your follicles which somehow will halt your hair loss but of course you need a simulator that will expedite the growth of new follicles with ensuring the blood supply to the vellus hairs. So in order to grow new hair, you really have to continue using it. This product and Minoxidil will do great job in restoring your hair
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Yes it is. Its much better to order the 180 caps (90 days supply) which will save more money that ordering them individually with keeping in mind the multiple shipping cost to be paid.
You can order them officially from two websites:-
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hi harira i have ordered 180 caps and with a discount you gave me a few weeks ago it was Ł105.56 uk pounds which im very happy with.Yes it is. Its much better to order the 180 caps (90 days supply) which will save more money that ordering them individually with keeping in mind the multiple shipping cost to be paid.
You can order them officially from two websites:-
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HARIRI thank you very much for that information it was super helpful,
you are just one useful guy.
So...I got the pills yesterday and took the first one today.
I feel great right now although I had a little heart attack a few hours ago,
they took me to the hospital and the doctors only had to cut off my right hand but that is IT! The pills are great!!
aand now for real:
I'll stick with one pill a day for now, and if it won't do anything in some time I'll go on 2 pills a day, one in the morning and one in the evening, which is only meant for agressive hair loss - NW3 and up (According to the manual I got with the pills, which looks very professional btw).Comment
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LongWayHome, thanks for the compliment (rav todot). I'm just so interested in this product because I cant take Finasteride at all. So its my only hope to control my DHT especially i can notice some thinning in my crown area.
I think I will follow your way, I will start with a small dose for one month around one pill a day and then gradually will upgrade to two. Just like how Finasteride users do with Proscar and Propecia.
Cant wait to lay my hands on this product and halt this hair loss :-)Comment
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