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  • HARIRI
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 467

    #16
    Kiwi, mpbtreatments.com sounds legit. However its from Costa Rica :-)

    The main question is,

    Will 1% be enough if I wanted to apply it once before bed time?

    How can we use it along with Rogaine 5%? Which to apply first and how much time we have to wait before applying the second?

    Im seriously planning to use it to halt my hair loss along with saw palmetto and Rogaine. Propecia really killed my libido in the past. We really need to keep the hair on our head in order to have successful results with future treatments as they proved that they are working on NW2 NW3 and NW4.

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    • LongWayHome
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2012
      • 183

      #17
      HARIRI Amen to that.
      This is exactly what I think, I'm like NW2 with curly, full and thick hair,
      receding temples that covered well, seeing hair loss for 3.5 years and no one belives me that I'm balding, I always tell my close friends "Every time you see me and tell me 'you're nuts you're not balding' I just know that my job here is done"

      All I need is to make it stop for real for a few years, because if not, it's just a matter of time until I'll start hearing the songs "who let the hair out? who who..."
      "I'm bald da ba di da bo dai..." "I belive I can lie..." "sgt pepper lonely hearts club scalps", And frankly I prefer "Let it grow" (Clapton).

      Bottom line:
      I'm going to buy RU this month, and I will report every week.
      Hope it will be good news, but still, RU is not from yesterday, I guess it's just about where you buy it from and how you use it.

      I still have no idea where to buy it from, kane, mpb...

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #18
        Originally posted by LongWayHome
        HARIRI Amen to that.
        This is exactly what I think, I'm like NW2 with curly, full and thick hair,
        receding temples that covered well, seeing hair loss for 3.5 years and no one belives me that I'm balding, I always tell my close friends "Every time you see me and tell me 'you're nuts you're not balding' I just know that my job here is done"

        All I need is to make it stop for real for a few years, because if not, it's just a matter of time until I'll start hearing the songs "who let the hair out? who who..."
        "I'm bald da ba di da bo dai..." "I belive I can lie..." "sgt pepper lonely hearts club scalps", And frankly I prefer "Let it grow" (Clapton).

        Bottom line:
        I'm going to buy RU this month, and I will report every week.
        Hope it will be good news, but still, RU is not from yesterday, I guess it's just about where you buy it from and how you use it.

        I still have no idea where to buy it from, kane, mpb...
        Kane and Ontario Chemicals have the most pure RU available and its most efficient when you make a fresh daily batch. I'd buy from them. This route takes the most determination and consistency because it requires a lot more effort then the prepared stuff from the other guys. Personally, I wouldn't use anything but my own prepared solutions since I am in control of how much RU is in each dosage. RUM from Kane is even better (although slightly) than regular RU.

        Good luck though, seeing how youre a NW2, youre in a great spot and you've got many options. I think your RU route is your best bet until a final solution from Aderans and Histogen becomes available. Theres always Dr. Gho's method which won't compromise your donor follicles however it is pricey (but there is absolutely no price on having hair and the confidence and life satisfaction from it).

        Good luck.

        Ps. don't just rely on RU or RUM, get on Nizoral and other shampoos which contain L-Arginine. Saw Palmetto is a natural DHT inhibitor that may help you. Its very weak compared to Finasteride so erectile dysfunction is nearly impossible.. on the plus side, it helps decrease prostate cancer significantly.

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        • StayThick
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 624

          #19
          Originally posted by hellouser
          Kane and Ontario Chemicals have the most pure RU available and its most efficient when you make a fresh daily batch. I'd buy from them. This route takes the most determination and consistency because it requires a lot more effort then the prepared stuff from the other guys. Personally, I wouldn't use anything but my own prepared solutions since I am in control of how much RU is in each dosage. RUM from Kane is even better (although slightly) than regular RU.

          Good luck though, seeing how youre a NW2, youre in a great spot and you've got many options. I think your RU route is your best bet until a final solution from Aderans and Histogen becomes available. Theres always Dr. Gho's method which won't compromise your donor follicles however it is pricey (but there is absolutely no price on having hair and the confidence and life satisfaction from it).

          Good luck.

          Ps. don't just rely on RU or RUM, get on Nizoral and other shampoos which contain L-Arginine. Saw Palmetto is a natural DHT inhibitor that may help you. Its very weak compared to Finasteride so erectile dysfunction is nearly impossible.. on the plus side, it helps decrease prostate cancer significantly.
          Hellouser: Could you guide me please? This RU is very confusing. I prefer to avoid being a chemist and mixing potions in my room to dump on my scalp.. doesnt seem wise or safe IMO. That being said, are there any reliable vendors selling a pre-made batch? I was under the impression that mpbtreatments DOES NOT ship to the US. If that's the case, who does? Is it premixed? Decent quality?

          More importantly I vowed to never touch Propecia again as it completely destroyed my body. I finally am at 85% recovered after 8 months post FIN. Guess I am one of the lucky ones...BUT does RU have similar side effects? If I experienced severe sides with FIN, will this topical cause similar or identical sides? If so, I might avoid it altogether. I just need something to help my hairline.

          Your input and those of others would be greatly appreciated. Just a balding dude seeking advice from you all.

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          • HARIRI
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 467

            #20
            Originally posted by LongWayHome
            HARIRI Amen to that.

            Bottom line:
            I'm going to buy RU this month, and I will report every week.
            Hope it will be good news, but still, RU is not from yesterday, I guess it's just about where you buy it from and how you use it.

            I still have no idea where to buy it from, kane, mpb...
            LongWayHome, Thanks for that. Are you going to apply it on your scalp along with Rogaine (Minoxidil 5%). How do you think you can apply them together? Will you apply Rogaine first and wait 10min then apply the RU? Any idea?

            Keep us updated and Hairy New Year

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            • LongWayHome
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 183

              #21
              Originally posted by HARIRI
              LongWayHome, Thanks for that. Are you going to apply it on your scalp along with Rogaine (Minoxidil 5%). How do you think you can apply them together? Will you apply Rogaine first and wait 10min then apply the RU? Any idea?

              Keep us updated and Hairy New Year
              Well...HelloUser said he applies minox during the day - morning/afternoon and RU at night after a shower.
              That means it's 1 time RU and 1 time minox. I use Kirkland 5% and I wonder if decreasing minox to 1 time a day isn't meaningful.
              I guess I'll try it for a while cuz I don't wanna destroy the RU with minox,
              it's too expensive, it's not cetirizine which if you kill with alcohol you can always buy new for 50$ near your house.

              If someone else has something to say about the applying of minox and RU together I'll be more than glad.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #22
                Originally posted by StayThick
                Hellouser: Could you guide me please? This RU is very confusing. I prefer to avoid being a chemist and mixing potions in my room to dump on my scalp.. doesnt seem wise or safe IMO. That being said, are there any reliable vendors selling a pre-made batch? I was under the impression that mpbtreatments DOES NOT ship to the US. If that's the case, who does? Is it premixed? Decent quality?

                More importantly I vowed to never touch Propecia again as it completely destroyed my body. I finally am at 85% recovered after 8 months post FIN. Guess I am one of the lucky ones...BUT does RU have similar side effects? If I experienced severe sides with FIN, will this topical cause similar or identical sides? If so, I might avoid it altogether. I just need something to help my hairline.

                Your input and those of others would be greatly appreciated. Just a balding dude seeking advice from you all.
                Just refer to my post on the first page of this thread (or click here; http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showpos...06&postcount=5 )

                I don't think I can be any more detailed about the whole RU process than that. But you really shouldnt be worried about treating the whole process like some kind of lab chemist, its no more difficult than making batter mix for a fish and chips dinner. Take 0.7ml of isopropanol and mix with 50-100mg of RU, add 0.3ml of polypropylene glycol and youre done.

                I dont know about buying premade batches only because I dont care for them as I know they wont be as effective as your own mix (RU loses its efficacy after a few weeks at room temperature, so you need to make sure your storing it sealed, away from light and locked airtight).

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                • Kiwi
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 1087

                  #23
                  Still no idea how to apply it to my head guys!! :P

                  Eye dropper and then rub it in with fingers?

                  If I was rich I'd fill up my basin and just dip my head in each evening.

                  Actually has anybody thought of doing that?

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                  • Pate
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2011
                    • 417

                    #24
                    Apply it like minox. Dropper if you've got long hair, spray bottle is an option if you buzz. Rub it in then wash your hands thoroughly.

                    There are vids online of people applying RU, apparently. I haven't watched them.

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Kiwi
                      Still no idea how to apply it to my head guys!! :P

                      Eye dropper and then rub it in with fingers?

                      If I was rich I'd fill up my basin and just dip my head in each evening.

                      Actually has anybody thought of doing that?
                      Apply it the same way as you would with Minox; use eye dropper and rub it into your scalp.

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                      • Kiwi
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1087

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Apply it the same way as you would with Minox; use eye dropper and rub it into your scalp.
                        Thanks mate.

                        Do you think there are any chance of sides?

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                        • Kiwi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 1087

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Pate
                          Apply it like minox. Dropper if you've got long hair, spray bottle is an option if you buzz. Rub it in then wash your hands thoroughly.

                          There are vids online of people applying RU, apparently. I haven't watched them.
                          Thanks to you too )

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                          • Pate
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 417

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kiwi
                            Thanks mate.

                            Do you think there are any chance of sides?
                            There is a chance but every study I've been able to find reported no systemic effects even at very high doses. It should have much lower sides than fin

                            My advice is to start off slow. Apply just a few drops to start with and work your way up.

                            My RU arrived today. So I'll be trying it this week.

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                            • Kiwi
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 1087

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Pate
                              There is a chance but every study I've been able to find reported no systemic effects even at very high doses. It should have much lower sides than fin

                              My advice is to start off slow. Apply just a few drops to start with and work your way up.

                              My RU arrived today. So I'll be trying it this week.
                              Did you buy pre made or just order the powder?

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                              • garethbale
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 603

                                #30
                                I might start RU but I think I would rather order the pre-made stuff than order all the ingredients and make it up.

                                I live with other people so I can't exactly store the ingredients in the fridge/freezer. I can't be bothered mixing up as well although perhaps this stuff is more potent, I don't know. May just order 1 or 2 months worth from MPB treatments and see how it goes.

                                Incidentally, is it beneficial for the hairline? I have no diffuse or crown loss, all my hair loss is at my hairline & temples.

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