About to start RU, need directions...

[hellouser]

Hi guys!

New member, just wanted to say thank you about RU contribution!

I am thinking of purchasing RU from Kane, slightly a bit confused still regarding the whole mixing and proper vehicle procedure.

The reason why I want go RU is because my hairline density is nearly gone. I had slight shedding and my temples where always receding just a lil bit,but quite thing and dense hairline. My natural shedding slightly increased over the years and I had a small bald spot on my crown, so I decided to go for Minoxidil,

I used rogaine 5% for a month it gave me horrible shed, chickened out obviously and stopped as it almost destroyed my density, which was always quite good.

After minox my shed increased quite dramatically and I went back to minoxidil, but now I take lipogaine at night, rogaine in the morning and even bought Keratene tablets, but tablets gave me worst fatigue ever, stopped taking them just to see if its them causing it or just my mind playing.Either way, on current minox I have been a month and a week. I still have shed, but now I lose fine hair with bulbs at the end and mainly from my hairline,I lost significant density at the hairline and my top and really unsure if I should stick to Minox at all and just go RU!

Sincere apologies for long text and I am aware that this is a RU topic,
so I will stick to my question

Could someone answer on this question if possible.

If purchased RU 10G, how long can it last for?

Do you need KB solution to mix it or something else?

That is for now.

THANK YOU.

Dude, come on.... did you skip the first page completely??

If you read my long ass post on the first page, just ignore the use of Isopropanol, it is useless. Instead, use Everclear (ethanol) at 190 Proof.

[abrorcasanova]

Dude, come on.... did you skip the first page completely??

If you read my long ass post on the first page, just ignore the use of Isopropanol, it is useless. Instead, use Everclear (ethanol) at 190 Proof.

I apologies if I sounded completely ignorant, yes I did read the first page and whole thread and many other regarding RU, what is what and checked out the youtube videos of the guy who shows how to mix them.

But the thing is KB not mentioned in your set list, that is the only reason why I asked and wanted to know how long can 10g last me for??

Thx!

[hellouser]

I apologies if I sounded completely ignorant, yes I did read the first page and whole thread and many other regarding RU, what is what and checked out the youtube videos of the guy who shows how to mix them.

But the thing is KB not mentioned in your set list, that is the only reason why I asked

KB solution is fine, but I have a suspicion that Everclear + PG works better.
With Everclear and PG you are given some control over the everclear/pg ratio, but not with KB since its a premixed vehicle.

and wanted to know how long can 10g last me for??

It depends on the concentration. The higher concentration, the better the efficacy, the shorter it will last you and the more its going to cost you. Its also going to depend how many times a day you apply and if you apply more than 1ml per application.

10mg of RU in 1ml is useless. Don't expect results. 20mg isnt going to do much either, so don't bother. I wouldn't go below 50mg.

I've upped my dosage to 100mg/1ml and apply once daily. So, do the math;

10grams (10,000mg) / 100mg = 100 applications

Since I use RU once daily, that obviously gives me 100 days worth of usage, so a little over 3 months. If you buy from Kane, 10g will cost you $225, or $75/month.

[LongWayHome]

Hellouser, you've probably answered that before and I just forgot,
Did you maintained on RU? maybe regrow?

[hellouser]

Hellouser, you've probably answered that before and I just forgot,
Did you maintained on RU? maybe regrow?

Here's my experience from first starting to battle MPB until today:

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April, 2011
I start taking saw palmetto. Did my research, relatively small sides if any, much safer than finasteride, 1 pill a day (eventually moved up to 2 pills a day, 160mg each). Also started using Nizoral.

June, 2011
I start taking Kirkland's Minoxidil 2%, twice a day. No shedding, no regrowth, no hair loss. Standstill point.

October, 2011
Ordered 5grams of RU from Ontario Chemicals and start using in 1ml application of 0.7ml isopropyl (wrong vehicle) and 0.3ml of PG. Concentration of RU was probably about 10mg. USELESS. At this dosage, almost impossible to get side effects more so since I was using isopropyl.
RU is now applied once daily, Minoxidil once daily as well.

September, 2012
Ran out of 5g of RU (yeah, after 11 months). Order 10g of RU from Ontario Chemicals again, still using Isopropyl but upped the dosage of RU to 5% concentration per 1ml (so 50mg per 1ml) and used once daily. Still on Minoxidil 2% once daily, still on Saw Palmetto and Nizoral.

No further loss, no shedding still but no regrowth either.

December, 2012
Ran out of 2% Minoxidil from Kirklands, changed it to Kirklands 5%.

MASSIVE SHEDDING (therefor, major loss in density).

Hair got thinner immediately in the following weeks.
Still on RU at 5% in 1ml, Saw Palmetto and Nizoral.

February, 2013
STILL SHEDDING and most likely due to going from 2% to 5% minoxidil. Shedding is common and usually a sign of efficacy. Ran out of RU, got 10g again of RU, but also purchased Everclear to fix the vehicle. Upped the dosage of RU to about 100mg per 1ml (thus 10% solution) once daily.

March, 2013
Shedding slowing down significantly. No regrowth yet however small hairs have shown up around the hairline.

April, 2013
Still shedding. But: LOTS of new hairs have sprouted around the hairline and the small hairs at hairline visible 1 month prior are now longer, but only visible when seen up close. I hope the same holds true for the vertex and crown to hold onto my hair until Aderans/Histogen is out.

Note: Also started to add CB once daily at 1%, thus the new regimen is now:

100mg RU in 1ml, once daily
10-15mg CB in 1ml or 1.5ml, once daily
Minoxidil 5% at about 1.5ml, once daily
Saw Palmetto (320mg - 550mg daily, depending on available pills)
Nizoral 2%

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Now, I haven't had a haircut since about January, so I know for sure things are going to look pretty horrific when I do get it cut and thats going to be SOON. But, there are a lot of new hairs propping up around the hairline and they are continually growing. I hope to god these turn terminal within the next couple months. Like I said before, hair grows slowly (about 1cm per month) so whatever possible results I do get, will take some extra time anyway.

I'm thinking of adding Keratene into my regiment to block DHT even more so than I already am with my current topical arsenal, I'll definitely keep everyone updated with progress as I have been keeping photographs of my hair since last 2011. I'm not posting anything yet because in the last 2 years my case hasn't really worsened or improved, its been pretty much the same all around. Possibly my hairline got worse and I can owe it ALL the the fvcking isopropyl and the low dosage of RU. Had it been higher I would have had a full year to potentially see actual results but I've mostly been at a stand still. Density in the vertex and crown is more or less the same as it was back in 2011.

I will say this though; the last two years of my life have EASILY been the most depressing.

I am trying to wait as patiently as possible for results now that in February I finally got on a REAL regimen. I'm trying to wait even more patiently for a treatment from Histogen and Aderans. I'm currently about an NW3 (kind of like Christian Slater) with thinning in the vertex and crown. An HST from Gho on my hairline with regeneration in the donor and a treatment from Aderans and/or Histogen would surely give me greatly increased density.

If anyone is curious about how effective is CB? I don't know yet, its too soon to tell.

As for side effects? None. No brain fog, no limp-finasteride-dick however I have experienced many drops in Libido from Saw Palmetto. Whats weird is that sometimes my libido is RAGING high and I'll be getting random stiffies at work too.

I hope this helps.

[LMS]

Here's my experience from first starting to battle MPB until today:

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

April, 2011
I start taking saw palmetto. Did my research, relatively small sides if any, much safer than finasteride, 1 pill a day (eventually moved up to 2 pills a day, 160mg each). Also started using Nizoral.

June, 2011
I start taking Kirkland's Minoxidil 2%, twice a day. No shedding, no regrowth, no hair loss. Standstill point.

October, 2011
Ordered 5grams of RU from Ontario Chemicals and start using in 1ml application of 0.7ml isopropyl (wrong vehicle) and 0.3ml of PG. Concentration of RU was probably about 10mg. USELESS. At this dosage, almost impossible to get side effects more so since I was using isopropyl.
RU is now applied once daily, Minoxidil once daily as well.

September, 2012
Ran out of 5g of RU (yeah, after 11 months). Order 10g of RU from Ontario Chemicals again, still using Isopropyl but upped the dosage of RU to 5% concentration per 1ml (so 50mg per 1ml) and used once daily. Still on Minoxidil 2% once daily, still on Saw Palmetto and Nizoral.

No further loss, no shedding still but no regrowth either.

December, 2012
Ran out of 2% Minoxidil from Kirklands, changed it to Kirklands 5%.

MASSIVE SHEDDING (therefor, major loss in density).

Hair got thinner immediately in the following weeks.
Still on RU at 5% in 1ml, Saw Palmetto and Nizoral.

February, 2013
STILL SHEDDING and most likely due to going from 2% to 5% minoxidil. Shedding is common and usually a sign of efficacy. Ran out of RU, got 10g again of RU, but also purchased Everclear to fix the vehicle. Upped the dosage of RU to about 100mg per 1ml (thus 10% solution) once daily.

March, 2013
Shedding slowing down significantly. No regrowth yet however small hairs have shown up around the hairline.

April, 2013
Still shedding. But: LOTS of new hairs have sprouted around the hairline and the small hairs at hairline visible 1 month prior are now longer, but only visible when seen up close. I hope the same holds true for the vertex and crown to hold onto my hair until Aderans/Histogen is out.

Note: Also started to add CB once daily at 1%, thus the new regimen is now:

100mg RU in 1ml, once daily
10-15mg CB in 1ml or 1.5ml, once daily
Minoxidil 5% at about 1.5ml, once daily
Saw Palmetto (320mg - 550mg daily, depending on available pills)
Nizoral 2%

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Now, I haven't had a haircut since about January, so I know for sure things are going to look pretty horrific when I do get it cut and thats going to be SOON. But, there are a lot of new hairs propping up around the hairline and they are continually growing. I hope to god these turn terminal within the next couple months. Like I said before, hair grows slowly (about 1cm per month) so whatever possible results I do get, will take some extra time anyway.

I'm thinking of adding Keratene into my regiment to block DHT even more so than I already am with my current topical arsenal, I'll definitely keep everyone updated with progress as I have been keeping photographs of my hair since last 2011. I'm not posting anything yet because in the last 2 years my case hasn't really worsened or improved, its been pretty much the same all around. Possibly my hairline got worse and I can owe it ALL the the fvcking isopropyl and the low dosage of RU. Had it been higher I would have had a full year to potentially see actual results but I've mostly been at a stand still. Density in the vertex and crown is more or less the same as it was back in 2011.

I will say this though; the last two years of my life have EASILY been the most depressing.

I am trying to wait as patiently as possible for results now that in February I finally got on a REAL regimen. I'm trying to wait even more patiently for a treatment from Histogen and Aderans. I'm currently about an NW3 (kind of like Christian Slater) with thinning in the vertex and crown. An HST from Gho on my hairline with regeneration in the donor and a treatment from Aderans and/or Histogen would surely give me greatly increased density.

If anyone is curious about how effective is CB? I don't know yet, its too soon to tell.

As for side effects? None. No brain fog, no limp-finasteride-dick however I have experienced many drops in Libido from Saw Palmetto. Whats weird is that sometimes my libido is RAGING high and I'll be getting random stiffies at work too.

I hope this helps.

Really interested in how the CB treats you. Props for taking action and being a pioneer!

[HARIRI]

Great write up hellouser. You are indeed full of meds. Based from what I heard is that CB isnt effective and wont make much change. I would relate the success to Minoxdil, saw palmetto and RU.

Im using now MOPC world Minoxidil 10% + Azelaic Acid 5%, as I apply it only once a day before bedtime. MOPC world minoxidil is not sticky at all and does not leave any residue. I tried all types of high strength minoxidils with Azelaic acid from Perfect image solutions to Lipogaine to Minoxidil Max. They all contain this ugly sticky agent Retinol plus too much Glycerin.

Here is the link of its ingredient http://www.mopclabs.com/Compare.html
Here is the new official website for ordering it http://www.mopcworld.com/

Also Im using Keratene Alphactive Retard once a day as a replacement of my Saw Palmetto 500mg. I strongly advice you to quit Saw palmetto if you will start Keratene Alphactive Retard to avoid any possible sides.

According to RU, Im just waiting for the RU pre mixed 1% to be available in MPBtreatments.com as its out of stock lately. I dont trust myself doing the mixing and I like it readily made. After 3 months maybe I will upgrade to 2% but Im afraid to go up to 5% since Im using Minoxidil 10% once a day and Keratene too.

Regarding drops in Libido, I would swear to you that once you stop Saw Palmetto and start Keratene, the libido will go way higher. Until this moment I don't know how can they do it. I asked many times the secret of it but they didn't want to tell it. The only info I got is that it contains 1mg of sterol complex if taken twice a day.

My question to you since you were taking Saw Palmetto and Minoxidil. Do you feel a positive difference when you start adding the RU 5% into you regime?

[abrorcasanova]

Anyone from UK, knows where to buy Everclear here? or what would be the best alternative??

[Cob984]

I got brain fog on fin and also get it mildly on keratene but I dont experience it on saw palmetto strangely. Has anyone got brain fog on fin but not on RU?

[hellouser]

Based from what I heard is that CB isnt effective and wont make much change.

Im using now MOPC world Minoxidil 10% + Azelaic Acid 5%

I think you got it all wrong dude, CB has the potential to be far more effective than everything available today (except for maybe BNP-32). Its up to 4X as effective as finasteride, no side effects which includes not getting a limp dick. From the trials that Cosmo completed, they stated a 40% increase in hair density after I think 1-2 applications per week at 1% and 5% concentrations.

My question to you since you were taking Saw Palmetto and Minoxidil. Do you feel a positive difference when you start adding the RU 5% into you regime?

Even at 5% I was still using the wrong vehicle (isopropyl), so this wouldn't make a lick of a difference. Its only now since February that I've upped the dosage to 100mg and started using Everclear that I've seen regrowth. At 10% in 1ml RU is definitely making a difference but I'll at least a few more months to see; if it grows longer and turns terminal, than its a clear success.

[LongWayHome]

Hellouser I don't know how to thank you for the time you spend typing all that information.

Thank you again my friend.

[Cob984]

Longwayhome please keep us updated when you receive RU since you seem a bit androgen sensitive just like me,
Btw what % concentration did you purchase?

[LongWayHome]

I purchased the 5%, and yea I'm pretty sensitive.
Hoping it won't get systematic.
They shipped it a few days ago on express shipping. I'll report everything.

[abrorcasanova]

Can anyone suggest what vehicle should I use if I am in UK??

Thx!!

[hellouser]

Can anyone suggest what vehicle should I use if I am in UK??

Thx!!

Don't quote me on this, but perhaps a Polish rectified spirit would be good? A grain alcohol at 95% should be the same. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rectified_spirit