Histogen at the ISHRS conference

[FearTheLoss]

hell, histogen comes up big...we are taking a cruise ship overseas to get this shit right away...drinks are on me the whole damn trip!

[Desmond84]

Having a bad day today I just want this to be over! I can feel my left temple aching. Does anybody else get this ache/pain/tingling feeling? It's like I can feel when mpb is kicking in. It's weird.

Dude I know exactly what you mean I get that too every now and then and it just ruins the whole day for me!

Think about it though, in Jan 2015 (2 years) we'll be on some cruise in Singapore sipping on Pina colada knowing fully well we got this curse over and done with

[Breaking Bald]

I love your positivity Desmond, it is a great force on the forum. However, I don't want to get my hopes too high encase nothing falls through

I just wish we weren't kept in the dark so much!

[Desmond84]

I love your positivity Desmond, it is a great force on the forum. However, I don't want to get my hopes too high encase nothing falls through

I just wish we weren't kept in the dark so much!

There are so many updates coming up in the next 6 months we will be celebrating every week

[Desmond84]

Guys, I know you're all depressed about your hairloss but look at it this way:

In the grand scheme of things, most of us are gonna be alive for another 40-50 years. We have to wait another 2-3 years to keep our hair! is that so bad? I don't think so!

Positivity is all we have against MPB! Believe me

[Breaking Bald]

I guess you're right. It's just hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel most of the time. It feels like mpb is crippling my youth sometimes

I'll probably feel ok in a day or two.

[clandestine]

I guess you're right. It's just hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel most of the time. It feels like mpb is crippling my youth sometimes

I'll probably feel ok in a day or two.

Wishing you the best mate. It's entirely hard to go bald young, just know that you're not at all alone.

[clandestine]

Guys, I know you're all depressed about your hairloss but look at it this way:

In the grand scheme of things, most of us are gonna be alive for another 40-50 years. We have to wait another 2-3 years to keep our hair! is that so bad? I don't think so!

Positivity is all we have against MPB! Believe me

I just worry that my hair is going so fast. I'm losing it so quickly, I hope I can hold out for 2 or 3 years. That's literally a long time. And I'm only *****ing 20 years old, heading for NW7 in my lifetime no doubt.

[mjolnir]

I guess you're right. It's just hard to see the light at the end of the tunnel most of the time. It feels like mpb is crippling my youth sometimes

I'll probably feel ok in a day or two.

If you don't mind my asking, how far along is your hair loss/how fast is it progressing? I know in the scheme of things, the whole "it could be worse" thing can only help so much, but looking for positives is always worth a try. Or if you already are a NW3+, then maybe take comfort in the fact that even if these new treatments don't work out, you already know that you survive day to day with noticeable baldness; maybe it's not ideal, but you do have conclusive evidence that your life isn't over just because of hair loss.

Again, I know it's not much, but it's something.

Or remind yourself that if all else fails, you can always get a hair piece; tends to cheer me up a bit, at least. I really couldn't care less about the social stigma - as far as I'm concerned, it's no different than improving your appearance with makeup or nice clothes - and so really the only downside would be cost.

[mjolnir]

I just worry that my hair is going so fast. I'm losing it so quickly, I hope I can hold out for 2 or 3 years. That's literally a long time. And I'm only *****ing 20 years old, heading for NW7 in my lifetime no doubt.

Are you on propecia? I know the side effects can be worrying, but (1) the vast majority of people don't get them, and (2) you can always start with a really low dosage and work your way up. I know I wish I'd gotten on it sooner. To tell the truth, the only reason I didn't is because it never occurred to me that such a product existed; I figured if there was anything to be done about a receding hairline, you wouldn't see so many people who had one.

[clandestine]

Are you on propecia? I know the side effects can be worrying, but (1) the vast majority of people don't get them, and (2) you can always start with a really low dosage and work your way up. I know I wish I'd gotten on it sooner. To tell the truth, the only reason I didn't is because it never occurred to me that such a product existed; I figured if there was anything to be done about a receding hairline, you wouldn't see so many people who had one.

I`m not, but only because I'm ridiculously susceptible to anti-androgens. Stupidly susceptible to gynecomastia, even taking an AA in low doses.

No one knows why, either. I've had full panel endocrine done, and everything is normal for the most part. Still gyno plagues me when I try to treat hair loss.

So, will it be man tits, or bald? Both, perhaps? Bollocks.

[Conpecia]

I`m not, but only because I'm ridiculously susceptible to anti-androgens. Stupidly susceptible to gynecomastia, even taking an AA in low doses.

No one knows why, either. I've had full panel endocrine done, and everything is normal for the most part. Still gyno plagues me when I try to treat hair loss.

So, will it be man tits, or bald? Both, perhaps? Bollocks.

I'm in the same boat man, and honestly I'm risking tits because I know there are proven ways to kill gyno and only fin will stop MPB. Also, gyno doesn't show up as much if you have low body fat, you go bald it's over and there's no covering it up.

[clandestine]

I know this to be true, but I feel seriously frustrated. Like what the *****, we literally have to choose between growing breasts and going bald? And oftentimes both to a degree, in cases such as mine, when trying to find a medium?

This is so *****ed up. I'm only 20 years old. ***** you, God. Or genes. Both. *****.

[JJJJrS]

Guys, I know you're all depressed about your hairloss but look at it this way:

In the grand scheme of things, most of us are gonna be alive for another 40-50 years. We have to wait another 2-3 years to keep our hair! is that so bad? I don't think so!

Positivity is all we have against MPB! Believe me

I agree that it's good to be positive but I think the most positive thing someone can do is to come to terms with their baldness. Pinning so much hope on these future treatments and putting your life on hold is a risk.

We all know baldness sucks and that life would be better if we had a full head of hair, but there's only so much you can do about it. If these future treatments pan out, that would be incredible. But even if they don't, it won't be the end of the world.

From my personal observations, I don't quite share the same level of optimism in these companies (Aderans, Histogen, Replicel) as Desmond might. I think an effective treatment will likely come from a different, perhaps unexpected source. But realistically speaking, I still think this is some time away and we should be reasonable with our expectations.

[FearTheLoss]

I agree that it's good to be positive but I think the most positive thing someone can do is to come to terms with their baldness. Pinning so much hope on these future treatments and putting your life on hold is a risk.

We all know baldness sucks and that life would be better if we had a full head of hair, but there's only so much you can do about it. If these future treatments pan out, that would be incredible. But even if they don't, it won't be the end of the world.

From my personal observations, I don't quite share the same level of optimism in these companies (Aderans, Histogen, Replicel) as Desmond might. I think an effective treatment will likely come from a different, perhaps unexpected source. But realistically speaking, I still think this is some time away and we should be reasonable with our expectations.

Yeah, but reasonable is...If we can maintain our hair right now...and histogen doesn't have a major unforeseen health concern...then in 3 years, or so, with the combination of a HT and histogen to regrow/thicken/maintain....we can have hair for life. Histogen has already proven to be better than propecia with no sides. That's pretty good.