Histogen at the ISHRS conference

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Of course is SHE saying this - or can you see something other than this...

    ... in a normal hairy and normal cycling area??

    Just look at the number 76 on top of Histogen's photo - what can you see?
    There are 2 single hairs. In the BEFORE photo, 1 hair is normal thick, the other hair is thinner. In the AFTER photo, the thinner hair is suddenly thicker and the thicker hair is suddenly thinner. What does it mean?

    Anyway, such a scenario, as just described, you can see this EVERYWHERE in Histogen's "proof-photo" what actually just shows a completely normal hairy and cycling area. Furthermore, if this stuff would work so great as they claim - why DISAPPEARED so many hairs in the after photo at all??

    And you losers still support such a -in my opinion- fraud.

    Why don't you learn English before you insult people?

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by 534623
    Furthermore, if this stuff would work so great as they claim - why DISAPPEARED so many hairs in the after photo at all??
    because the photo is centered in a different place?

    Originally posted by 534623
    And you losers still support such a -in my opinion- fraud.
    why would they do it? People eventually will know that it doesn't work

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  • re22
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    People here are easy targets, though. Anyone can do what you're doing.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by re22

    I don't think you're in a very good position to call other people losers.
    When I read all the previous posts - hmmm, I think I can.

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  • re22
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    I don't think you're in a very good position to call other people losers.

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  • 534623
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    Originally posted by garethbale

    Well from the video she says growth continues for about a year so this suggests it survives growth cycles.
    Of course is SHE saying this - or can you see something other than this...

    ... in a normal hairy and normal cycling area??

    Just look at the number 76 on top of Histogen's photo - what can you see?
    There are 2 single hairs. In the BEFORE photo, 1 hair is normal thick, the other hair is thinner. In the AFTER photo, the thinner hair is suddenly thicker and the thicker hair is suddenly thinner. What does it mean?

    Anyway, such a scenario, as just described, you can see this EVERYWHERE in Histogen's "proof-photo" what actually just shows a completely normal hairy and cycling area. Furthermore, if this stuff would work so great as they claim - why DISAPPEARED so many hairs in the after photo at all??

    And you losers still support such a -in my opinion- fraud.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    Well from the video she says growth continues for about a year so this suggests it survives growth cycles.
    similar study like this would settle it once for all:
    In a small uncontrolled study of 9 patients with AGA, an increased expression of IGF-1 messenger RNA levels in the DP was associated with patient response to finasteride.


    although I'm sure if the "pro-hair growth" variables are all increased, then the growth will in theory remain forever assuming DHT is under control.

    Originally posted by garethbale
    We need a preventative treatment as well so hopefully Aderans can provide this.
    correction: two desperate people on this forum need it. There are a gazillion treatments to maintain hair plus most people wouldn't even need to use it. You do realize that 70%+ of their customers will be women who "don't have as much hair as they used to"? If you imagine hair loss market as an army of NW7 men then you're very mistaken...

    Originally posted by garethbale
    Interestingly, why do you consider Histogen idiots?
    Histogen definitely has the right concept of how hair loss should be treated. I want them to succeed but the signs point the other way. UT San Diego and Taylor Baldwin are no ones. This is just an attempt by Histogen to appear "active" as if they're making any serious progress...

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by 2020
    It most likely will... Why wouldn't it? Although you will continue to bald since HSC doesn't cure baldness, it just sets back the time some. If they weren't complete idiots, they would monitor
    Well from the video she says growth continues for about a year so this suggests it survives growth cycles. We need a preventative treatment as well so hopefully Aderans can provide this.

    Interestingly, why do you consider Histogen idiots?

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by garethbale
    I think they are referring to growth cycles, ie will the hairs that shed be replaced by newer hairs...
    It most likely will... Why wouldn't it? Although you will continue to bald since HSC doesn't cure baldness, it just sets back the time some. If they weren't complete idiots, they would monitor

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  • garethbale
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    Originally posted by 2020
    what do they mean by "if the hairs will keep growing". .
    I think they are referring to growth cycles, ie will the hairs that shed be replaced by newer hairs...

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  • The Alchemist
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    Originally posted by Thinning87
    This is what any sane person would think like.

    This 5436 guy or whatever, he just tries to get off people's nerves by starting debates and raising issues over very small technicalities. He has shown not to know much about what he's talking about, and insists on counting hairs off a bad picture as evidence of what he thinks is a conspiracy against the public on the part of Aderans and Histogen..
    Yeah, that's his schtick. He's been doing it for years over at hairsite. He'll take small pieces of information clipped from a article or website and use it out of context or only put up part the part of the information that backs up whatever inane point he's trying to make. He does it to get a rise out of people and to try and come off as some kind of expert on the forums - mostl likely he's trying to assuage a very severe insecurity complex that stems from his lack of station in life. You can choose to ignore him or laugh it him, but, never take him seriously.

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  • 2020
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    what do they mean by "if the hairs will keep growing". The sentence that mentioned significant terminal hair count increase already IMPLIED that there was hair growth. Density was improved. That's that. What else do they want? These people are ****ing retarded. They have no common sense. They're one of those people who will spend years and billions of dollars to create a pen that writes upside down in space when all you needed was a pencil...

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  • Thinning87
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    Originally posted by Scientalk56
    "It is still unknown if this stimulated hair will in fact can keep growing."

    We can conclude two things:
    1. "There is big significant terminal hair regrowth"
    2. We don't know yet if the hair will keep growing.

    What's the problem of not knowing something? That what science is about - discovering things.
    Minoxidil has the ability to delay the baldness process, but no one knows for sure How it does that.

    You have two options:
    1. be a scientist and make a drug of your own for regrowing hair
    2. do nothing...

    Have a good day..
    This is what any sane person would think like.

    This 5436 guy or whatever, he just tries to get off people's nerves by starting debates and raising issues over very small technicalities. He has shown not to know much about what he's talking about, and insists on counting hairs off a bad picture as evidence of what he thinks is a conspiracy against the public on the part of Aderans and Histogen.

    It's good to be somewhat skeptic and not get excited to easily, but he goes well beyond this. He showed us a picture of his hair, in my opinion he's just really afraid that if something comes up he won't be able to benefit from the new treatments while others will.

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  • UK Boy
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    Originally posted by 534623
    shit - I forgot to cut out all the other crap.

    What in the world have I done ...
    Haha, looks like the Ironman's going soft! The article also goes on to talk about Luis Garza's presentation regarding PDG2, I'd like to know what it said about that but it cuts off. This is much more the kind of conference summary that I wanted, doesn't give loads of info but at least it appears to mention each presentation equally rather than breezing over cutting edge stuff and giving a detailed, word for word coverage of FUE Vs.FUT.

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  • UK Boy
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    Originally posted by 534623
    shit - I forgot to cut out all the other crap.

    What in the world have I done ...
    Haha, looks like the Ironman's going soft! The article also goes on to talk about Luis Garza's presentation regarding PDG2, I'd like to know what it said about that but it cuts off. This is much more the kind of conference summary that I wanted, doesn't give loads of info but at least it appears to mention each presentation equally rather than breezing over cutting edge stuff and giving a detailed, word for word coverage of FUE Vs.FUT.

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