Histogen at the ISHRS conference

[Pate]

I this was the case, then wouldn't 2000$ be too low price? So, you pay only 2000$ and you regrow and keep your hair for 20-30 years? Sounds too wonderful to be true. And Histogen would hardly earn anything this way.

Say Histogen's profit margin is $500 of that $2,000.

Say 5% of the 40 million balding men and 30 million balding women in the US get it done. That's 3.5M in America alone, at least double that for the rest of Europe and Asia, Canada, Australia, NZ etc. Say 10M people in all.

That's $5 BILLION profit for Histogen, and 20 billion revenue. The entire hair loss industry (surgical, non-surgical and pharma) is currently 'only' a billion dollars a year.

"Hardly earn anything"?! The more this treatment works and the longer it lasts, the more people will get it. It will become as common as laser hair removal or botox. Histogen actually stands to make more money from a one-off, cheap treatment because market penetration will be so much more.

[yeahyeahyeah]

I this was the case, then wouldn't 2000$ be too low price? So, you pay only 2000$ and you regrow and keep your hair for 20-30 years? Sounds too wonderful to be true. And Histogen would hardly earn anything this way.

Not true.

There will always be balding people with every generation.

So they will get a good ROI.

If this is good enough, I can honestly see GPs referring patients to get this treatment done as a preventative measure.

[yeahyeahyeah]

ROFL and there we have it. Kiwi is a troll.

Why should anyone believe you you f.u.c.k.i.n.g c.u.n.t? You presented zero evidence other than your gay "collleague". I'm tring to be polite and ask logical questions, and you insult me.

Typical troll, or wishful thinking behavior.

Just look at his posting history.

Histogen have regrown hair on human scalp.

Kiwi is a long time poster.

He has had HTs etc.

Why would he troll?

[Wiffle]

Sweet! Dick head is allowed

LOL.

Thanks Kiwi for the info.

Now, when get we fly out to Asia to get our fix?

[BoSox]

http://youtu.be/HWN0bqvnFIw

Many years until its available. Well I hope this will give nw7 full head of hair, or else I'm ****ed.

[MrBlonde]

I think a bit of perspective is needed here. As much as Kiwi's news is exciting on the first read it is still a million miles away from clinical trial results and until Histogen mirror those exact words in a press statement it is 100% unofficial.

Until then its basically a "friend of a friend said the following" type information, which may turn out to be valid or not. I'm not doubting Kiwi's integrity and good intentions in starting this thread but we have no idea who his friend is and I don't see the need for such abusive language when people are being realistic. There is a big difference between being realistic and a hope crusher, the poster who quite rightly said this is not official got a torrent of abuse. Remember we are all in this together, he wants a cure as much as Kiwi but to get our hopes up only to be dashed is not something we need to add to our MPB.

I was greatly underwhelmed when I saw the latest photos from Histogen, for me it could go either way with them and deep down I think they may offer a sides free equivilant of minox at best. I hope I'm wrong brothers, I hope I am wrong.

[MrBlonde]

What the hell is this? We are injecting foreskin into our heads? Oh the irony of this with the phrase dickhead getting clearence in this thread

So this is the stuff made from human foreskin fibroblasts? I hope you have signed informed consent documents from the "donors" of those human body parts. I'm guessing the foreskins were stolen; no permission granted by their owners. Histogen is a purveyor of purloined penises.

They are using foreskin fibroblasts which are the stem cells that would change to be the highly erogenous fine touch sexual receptors of the penis, 65%-85% to be exact. China has gotten their stem cells from cheek mucosa. Histogen- I couldn't be more disgusted.

[Losing_It]

What the hell is this? We are injecting foreskin into our heads? Oh the irony of this with the phrase dickhead getting clearence in this thread

You must be the last person to find this out. It is also used for Dermagraft and Trancyte and those two products recieved FDA approval ages ago.

[Scientalk56]

Mrblonde, couldn't agree more i'm happy to see this kind of posts.

Regarding the photos, i was disappointed too, but if you give it another thought, you would understand that they didn't inject the whole scalp/head, they just injected small bald areas - and those small areas have shown significant regrowth.
You can see an example from phase 1 trials:
the image:
h a i r s i t e . com/hair-loss/img/uploaded/2879_image734.jpg

on the same head, they injected both placebo and hsc injection.

to cover a full head, they need greater number of injections.
I hope they do that in phase II/III trials.

[john2399]

Kiwi, if your lying about your so called inside info than your just pure evil to mess with the baldnation. However, if you are truly telling the truth than godbless your contribution to help us have some hope, because we need it.

[neversaynever]

How far into phase 2 are they?

Will there be a phase 2b or is it phase 3 next?

[Scientalk56]

phase II B

[neversaynever]

Ohhhh. This is a long way of then. 2016?

[neversaynever]

and it is interesting that their site is still down.

How would an early asian release work? would it be pre-phase 3?

[Scientalk56]

There's a possibility for phase II/III in 2013. that's what dr zeiring said in his last interview with spencer. but nobody knows yet.

if everything goes well, they will end phase 3 in 2015 and release it in asia.
But in USA they need an FDA approval.

2013 - phase II b / III a (a year)
2014 - phase III b (a year)
2015 release
That's what i hope it would be if everything goes well.