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  • garethbale
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 603

    Hi Desmond

    Can I just take zyrtec tablets orally then? It seems much easier than making a topical and I don't want to mix up everything into a solution. But if the topical is the best method I will try that. Thanks

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    • rdawg
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 996

      Originally posted by garethbale
      Hi Desmond

      Can I just take zyrtec tablets orally then? It seems much easier than making a topical and I don't want to mix up everything into a solution. But if the topical is the best method I will try that. Thanks
      Injesting it orally gives you more risk of side effects. I believe it gives the same benefit but less side effects if you use it topically.

      EDIT: and On a side note I love how we're all becoming researchers right now. Screw the FDA trials!!(sarcasm kinda, I know they're for safety but still, 3-5 years is a long wait for hairloss!).

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      • thechamp
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2011
        • 1763

        Agrered

        Well five weeks till, I go on holiday thinking I have plenty if hair but if I start this treatment will I loose alot of hair or will I be able to keep it there's no gaurentee

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        • Pate
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 417

          Originally posted by garethbale
          Hi Desmond

          Can I just take zyrtec tablets orally then? It seems much easier than making a topical and I don't want to mix up everything into a solution. But if the topical is the best method I will try that. Thanks
          I think the issue with taking them orally is the dose. If you apply 10mg topically you will get a much higher dose to the scalp than if you take it orally where it will diffuse throughout your entire body.

          You'd have to take a shed load of pills to get the same concentration in your scalp which would have systemic effects. So I think topical is the way to go.

          One concern I have is we have no idea how much cet will go systemic from topical application. But I guess if you apply 10mg then no more than that can do systemic. Perhaps much less. I have no idea how much of a drug is typically going to go systemic from application to the scalp. I guess it varies widely.

          Any thoughts Des?

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          • thechamp
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 1763

            Quote:
            Originally Posted by garethbale
            Hi Desmond

            Can I just take zyrtec tablets orally then? It seems much easier than making a topical and I don't want to mix up everything into a solution. But if the topical is the best method I will try that. Thanks

            I wanna try the topical but don't want to she'd to much as I'm a Norwood 1 and what's the chance of keeping my hair with this topical or growing it back?

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            • doke
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2009
              • 1464

              I do not know if any guys here remember ken aka his rk19 product many years ago contained oral antihistamine plus a vit as well which caused a big internet argument as to a scam and some saying it worked.
              And what about hydrocotisone which many say stopped the itch and i think some minoxidil on sale contains like promox.
              But this may help with calming the scalp into some regrowth its worth a try and if its cheap then i may give it a go.

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              • thechamp
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 1763

                Worth a shot doke

                And this will be a topical something has to work lol

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                • doke
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 1464

                  hi champ i have just ordered eight 30 10mg tablets of cetirizine and only cost me about six quid i see that you can buy liquid 10mg capsules of cet but it would be very expensive in benadryl allergy liquid release.

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                  • thechamp
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 1763

                    Good work dole

                    Well done doke,there solid science behind this imagine if this works after all this trx2 bullshit we gave been threw!

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                    • doke
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 1464

                      got enough to last years hahaha

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                      • doke
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 1464

                        also bought some distilled water and propylene glycol for the mix.

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                        • thechamp
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1763

                          Doke

                          Where you buy propylene glycol from?

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                          • doke
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 1464

                            Hi champ got 200mls which i think will last a fair while at http://www.aromantic.co.uk i am not sure if this link will work?

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by thechamp
                              Where you buy propylene glycol from?
                              I bought some at my pharmacy. Just straight up asked 'Can I get some PG, about 200ml worth?'

                              They charged me $3.10.

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                              • Conpecia
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 904

                                Ok guys, without firsthand knowledge of how this stuff is being used by the members of other forums, and without plenty of results to sift through, I'm still maintaining a healthy dose of skepticism.

                                That being said, I keep hearing more and more good news about Cetirizine. Casperz from *** just updated again with photos documenting regrowth on an area that has been slick bald for TWENTY YEARS. He's got the pics. He reports hundreds of small, terminal black hairs popping up everywhere.

                                Another user named baldnesssadness just put up a photo of 6 week results. THE GUY'S HAIRLINE IS GROWING BACK. VISIBLY. This user is also on minox I believe, and I'm not sure how long he's been taking that. But Pate mentioned that a minox/cet combo might be necessary and perhaps he's right.

                                A third user, Hairoutthewazoo, just reported one month results of seeing lots of vellus hairs cropping up after an intense shed.

                                .......I'm not really sure how to react to all of this. Part of me is absolutely blown away by some of these photos, and of course there's that little voice in my head saying "this could be something huge." But I've been around the block a few times with these new treatments and the last thing I want to do is hype everybody up just to find out that, for whatever reason, it doesn't work out as far as regrowth or prevention. So here's my take on it: It's still TOO EARLY to make a judgment on the real efficacy of this treatment. We're getting excellent reports and seeing some very positive photographs, but we have to be patient before we can start popping the champagne.

                                My main fear is that I undergo a severe shed and don't regain anything worthwhile; that would crush me. I'm sticking to my guns and waiting at least until December to get going with Cet. Hopefully more good news will be coming our way from these other guys.

                                A lot of people wrap things up with "stay positive." My advice is to stay skeptical; let's manage expectations for a few more months and if we keep getting good news, then we can let our guards down a bit.

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