Cetirizine

[Pate]

I'd probably recomend using Minoxidil at the same time anyways, it is a growth stimulator and helps the blood flow etc. it potentially enhances the affects of CET.

I also would'nt expect a full review of this stuff for another couple months, you may not get the full benefits at month 3-4. Who is the farthest along with Cet?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the absolute earliest anyone started cet was about May, so 6 months, and most started about July, so 4 months. Definitely not long enough to know for sure what the long term results will be.

As for me, I'm two weeks today!

Has anybody seen any updates on the other forums?

[maxhair]

I've been on fin and minox for one year, and I've been using CET for 2 months, on one side of my head only. Standard strength as first tried in the German forum. So far...

... so far it has made absolutely no difference. No shed, no new hair, occassional itch. Should I up the strength of the next batch to 10%?

[rdawg]

They were on minox for 12 months before starting cet.

That's long enough for any chances that are exclusively due to minox to show themselves.

Also, they grew terminal hair on a slick bald hairline. I very much doubt minox has done that to anybody - ever.

I'd probably recomend using Minoxidil at the same time anyways, it is a growth stimulator and helps the blood flow etc. it potentially enhances the affects of CET.

I also would'nt expect a full review of this stuff for another couple months, you may not get the full benefits at month 3-4. Who is the farthest along with Cet?

[Conpecia]

Doke are there photos showing regrowth from this stuff? Don't see why there'd be any hype about it without proof. That's the main thing that has me excited about Cet.

[doke]

If certrizine does regrow hair as well as the neosil 101 it would be good as we know psi is pricey and another gamble.

[Pate]

But were they also using minox prior to starting with the cetirizine? If not, they could just be having good luck with the minox. It's not proper science if you're changing more than one variable.

They were on minox for 12 months before starting cet.

That's long enough for any chances that are exclusively due to minox to show themselves.

Also, they grew terminal hair on a slick bald hairline. I very much doubt minox has done that to anybody - ever.

[doke]

neosil vehicle ppg 48.3mls
ethanol alcohol 38mls
deionized water 20mls
= 100mls shake well then add 5mg per ml to mix so that you apply 5mg a day over 21 days 0.5% or you could mix 100grams to the whole 100mls not sure that it would mix that well as i have not tried it.
Also more info at hairlossbudda on many hair loss products and psi.

[doke]

hi champ its because peplin bought out neosil and put the phase 3 hair loss peptide on ice and it does not look like we will have it the same as the ru.

[thechamp]

Doke

Doke history repeats itself I remember neosh 101 7 years ago I was waiting for it and still waiting a d it's 2012!

[doke]

Apparently champ i think this stuff maybe the stuff as its so powerful it only needs to be used once a day for 21 days then a lay off and watch new hair sprout as said it is applied in two 14 day of 5mgs and then lay off for about a month then back to the resheme.
Im not sure if we will see the neosil 101 product as its been taken over by a company peplin the third takeover which has messed thinks up.

[doke]

well psi or proteasome inhibitor which was the neosil trial which i think will not be available for a few more years,anyway you apply 100mgs every 3 months in cycles.
And 200mgs from LABpe costs $220 make up 50% alcohol such as everclear) 25% distilled water,25% ppg and seperate into viles you want to add 5mgs a day to a 1ml to apply and make up a premade solution into a 4ml vial, this is a hlh users recipe so if you want to do your own thing its all experimental remember.
But as i said this stuff degrades so i think his recipe seems about right and you need to keep the rest of psi in the fridge.
So i think you could start with the 200mgs or some want to order 400 which will go a long way as said you lay off for periods and then restart if it works of course.
I will try to link you to the labpe site http://labpe.com/psi-200mg-p-339.html

[doke]

There is guys its psi and go to hairloss help theres a lot about it on the foru m i have commented there.
It is still being trialed by neosil but i think a company is selling the tablets but it is expensive you have to apply it topicaly and as its a protein you have to be carefull when mixing, ienly gently shake mix.
I have asked kane at kouting china of ru fame but he said that they tried it but as its a protein it degraded very quickly in days so they dropped it and are working on a sim product but not sure when it will be available.
There is a link at hlh forum to the company where you can buy psi and as its applied i think in a 14 day cycle with a gap then begin again this stuff if its the real deal and does not degrade as kane has said should regrow even bald scalps.

[thechamp]

Well stronger

We need a stronger pgd2 topical aspirin or clarintine?

[mjolnir]

Hey Doke, think z German who had the most regrowth was using minox too. That's what I'm gonna try first. Had sides with 5% minox gonna try 2% on hairline only. Will update.

But were they also using minox prior to starting with the cetirizine? If not, they could just be having good luck with the minox. It's not proper science if you're changing more than one variable.

[Pate]

It gets me down to see how many are running under the assumption that they'll be no pharmacy level treatments available in the near future.

Oh I don't run under that assumption at all. I think bimatoprost is as near to a sure thing as we have. They've now proven it works on scalp follicles as well as eyelash so all it needs to do is offer enough advantage over minox and it will reach market.

CB is a better than 50-50 chance too IMO. Its main threat is Cosmo getting taken over by someone who is focused on their other products.

Those two will replace minox & fin in the Big 3. But that will mostly be for maintaining. We need either stem cells or some miracle with PGD2 to regrow a decent amount of hair.