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  • MrBlonde
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    These first two photo's (on the left) are at the 2 month mark. You can see the thinning in the crown and some has spread further down towards the frontal area. The is more evident in the middle photo due to better light, which is the second photo taken at the two months mark.

    The last photo (on the right) was around the four month mark. Excuse my error earlier I though it was five months but from the timestamps on the photos I can see it was only four, which is better news. I believe the crown has thickened as well as the front and even some regrowth maybe. This was very hard to notice day to day but only evident when looking back on these photos. Please note these are not the best photo picks from hundreds I took. These are the only photo's I took.

    I also second Ted's comments about hair getting thinner off MSM. I slightly experienced this at the front area but it could have been taking place at the scalp area but I haven't been paying close attention. I remember when I started MSM I complained along with Cob that my hair got very thin and straw like. I am going through this again although not to the same extent as before. I believe this is natural and things get worse and then better with MSM as is the case with most programs. This is a natural side effect of MSM.
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  • MrBlonde
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    Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
    upppdddaaattttes please! !

    Gutted, against, ulanude, and then all the other people who arent getting results, please update!!

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    Time on:

    MSM/vitc/trx2 or just MSM/Vitc?:

    Type of results:
    Here is my update.

    Time on: 5 months on TRX2 Vit C 4G MSM 9G 5.5 months

    Overall 6 months (explained below)

    Type of results: I started TRX2 and added MSM/VITC shortly after. Recently I had an order probelm with TRX2 which left me without it for almost a month. They ran out of stock.

    Also I changed MSM brand. I was buying in tab form from the same German ebay store that Bananana is using. Its the best value imo (I left a link in this thread somewhere). When I switched MSM brands the itch almost instantly returned and so did the shed leading me to believe I did not get genuine MSM. I am back on the German MSM and the itch has gone along with the increased shed but I lost some ground in the meantime.

    I have gone a week without TRX2 before due to order delays with no return of the itch which leads me to believe its controlled soley by the MSM.

    I have photos taken with my hair wet under a light at about the 2 month mark and then again at the 5 months mark, before my MSM switching problems. I believe they show some signs of improvement. I am dissapointed I took at hit recently but hope to regain now that I have my MSM back.

    I will post these photos shortly. As gutted said its a 12 months timeline so hopefully there is more improvement to come.

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  • Ted
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    I have also been of MSM for over a month and it sure seems like my hair has gotten thinner. My reason for quitting MSM is that MSM is supposed to decrease your nitric oxide. Some people claim that increasing nitric oxide is good for your hair but that you can notice a minoxidil like shed when you begin to increase it. So I don't know what to think

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  • saltycrab
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    Hey lads,
    Im a lazy first time poster but ive been watching this thread for a while.
    Im on Minox niz and TRX2 and have been for over a year.
    I added Msm and vit c 7 months ago and the itch and shedding stabalized.
    2 months ago i went travelling in a third world country and i forgot my msm.
    My regime was the same in every other way except the Msm and vit c.
    Boy have I been shedding!!
    I have lost a lot of density and about 200+ hairs a day sometimes worse. The oil and itch are terrible. Im back into a country where i can get some msm tomorrow but I really think it has helped me and not having it really made it worse. Just my own experience and thoughts.

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  • bananana
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    Originally posted by Space
    Do you get your MSM in powder form? If so, how do you swallow it down?
    I buy it in tab form from germany. Found a good store on ebay at a reasonable price!

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  • Space
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    Originally posted by bananana
    Haha, made me laugh.

    Unfortunately, I do. I'm a NW2-3 diffuse, I'm successfully masking it to NW1 (but for how long).

    I already spoke about my case. I was like NW1.5 for 6 years (believing strongly cure would be here by the time I started losing more...), then all of a sudden (IN 1 YEAR) I went to diffuse 2-3. Then I decided to act.

    Anyways, since I'm on msm I believe I'm stable, itch has gone, oil has gone (I had both...).

    So far, so good.
    Do you get your MSM in powder form? If so, how do you swallow it down?

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  • bananana
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    Originally posted by Cob984
    Congratulations, I bring good news
    You dont have mpb
    Haha, made me laugh.

    Unfortunately, I do. I'm a NW2-3 diffuse, I'm successfully masking it to NW1 (but for how long).

    I already spoke about my case. I was like NW1.5 for 6 years (believing strongly cure would be here by the time I started losing more...), then all of a sudden (IN 1 YEAR) I went to diffuse 2-3. Then I decided to act.

    Anyways, since I'm on msm I believe I'm stable, itch has gone, oil has gone (I had both...).

    So far, so good.

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  • Cob984
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    I havent man, as of now im using Keratene topicals 2-3 times/week with Niz 1-2 times a week so sticking with that, will give it some more time
    Hyrdocort still working for you?

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  • sizzlinghairs
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    Lol, cob that was kind if humorous... Anyways , he might just have less aggressive mpb. Or
    He might just be a better responder than you, but no need to completely dismiss him.

    Thanks for sharing bannanas.

    Cob, did you try the hydrocortisone?

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  • Cob984
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    Originally posted by bananana
    Hi mate,

    1) 6+ months
    2) MSM/vitc/basically nothing else for hair loss
    3) maintenance, also POSSIBLY very small amount of regrowth and/or thickening of existing hair, really hard to tell - but it seems so.

    Other health benefits include: rock hard nails, healthy teeth, less wrinkles, better skin, no joint pain (sometimes my knee went click click click when riding a bike - no more) etc...

    I'm basically really satisfied so far, I just ordered one more kg of msm.
    Congratulations, I bring good news
    You dont have mpb

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  • bananana
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    Originally posted by sizzlinghairs
    No one? Everyone is too fried out?
    Hi mate,

    1) 6+ months
    2) MSM/vitc/basically nothing else for hair loss
    3) maintenance, also POSSIBLY very small amount of regrowth and/or thickening of existing hair, really hard to tell - but it seems so.

    Other health benefits include: rock hard nails, healthy teeth, less wrinkles, better skin, no joint pain (sometimes my knee went click click click when riding a bike - no more) etc...

    I'm basically really satisfied so far, I just ordered one more kg of msm.

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  • sizzlinghairs
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    No one? Everyone is too fried out?

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  • sizzlinghairs
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    upppdddaaattttes please! !

    Gutted, against, ulanude, and then all the other people who arent getting results, please update!!

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    MSM/vitc/trx2 or just MSM/Vitc?:

    Type of results:


    Myself:

    1) almost 2 years

    2) MSM/vitc/trx2

    3) maintenance, possible small amount of regrowth but hard to tell (up and down, good days and bad days, maybe indicative of something cyclic going on and results will come.. maybe not)

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  • sizzlinghairs
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    Hey ted, think you could try getting back on MSM and seeing if things worsen? Dont think there is any lasting harm NO could do to NO levels and I think it leaves your body pretty quickly. Would you be up for this? I would be really curious to see how you fare and it would help me clarify things in my mind.

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  • Space
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    Originally posted by Ted
    No I have been seeing improvements for maybe about a year. But I think the improvements have been more noticeable since quitting MSM. As I said before, this can very possible be to other reasons than the MSM.

    On another topic, I think my hair is getting thinner without MSM
    What are you on besides MSM? And what do you attribute your success to mostly?

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