Equol

[neversaynever]

absolutely.



not sure but it's a fact that 5ar blockers alter your other hormones besides DHT.



100% false.

5ar deficient people NEVER EVER go bald despite having tons of T.



it's already been put through trials it's just that none of them were about MPB.... mostly women problems and prostate issues.

We already know it's safe, it's just too bad that big pharma isn't interested in making it so we're stuck with a few small labs trying to produce it

Well that Folexan source recommends 10mg a day. Whats your thoughts on that? You think thats enough to maintain? its not so expensive at that dosage. £20 per month. What are your plans 2020?

[lilpauly]

i'm buying between 30 and 100g

[2020]

Well that Folexan source recommends 10mg a day. Whats your thoughts on that? You think thats enough to maintain? its not so expensive at that dosage. £20 per month. What are your plans 2020?

my opinion is that it wouldn't be enough... maintenance at best if your hair loss is not that aggressive.

if it was up to me, I would be taking it at > 100mg multiple times a day since it has many other health benefits besides binding to DHT.

I'll be waiting for results from that guy who is taking 50mg of equol a day and if he's getting major results from that, then I'll buy it too

[Conpecia]

I'll be waiting for results from that guy who is taking 50mg of equol a day and if he's getting major results from that, then I'll buy it too

Let us know how this goes. I'm seriously considering getting on the regular dose to see if I can maintain. I'll update once I start and also if I notice anything.

[Dirty Hairy]

Hey everyone. Hope you are having a good night. Is this something that can be taken along with Fin and Minoxidil? Would you even want to take it along with Fin and Minoxidil or is it just a replacement possibly for Fin?

[neversaynever]

Hey everyone. Hope you are having a good night. Is this something that can be taken along with Fin and Minoxidil? Would you even want to take it along with Fin and Minoxidil or is it just a replacement possibly for Fin?

Replacement for fin. IMO i wouldnt want to combine treatments that lower DHT levels. Though they do it in different ways, id rather play it safe.

Wait for people around the forums at least to see if equol stopped their shedding.

Its really difficult to judge, because even on fin sides may not appear for months, even years.

10mg is a very low dose. im tempted to double it, and combine with RU, minox and AHK.

[jpm]

The problem using equol as a replacement for fin, as I see it, is that it is not been thoroughly tested for MPB like fin. So while in theory it works, maybe in practice you could use equol instead of fin for a year, it may not work that well and you can lose a lot of ground while being off fin!

Also it is pretty expensive and hard to get hold of which means that not many people have actually tested it.

Is equol a topical or pill?

[jpm]

Folexen have a site (its Australian I think) where they are selling S-equol.

If someone was to test it they would need to be off all other meds.

Its about £20 for 100 pills and you are meant to take 4 per day so 100 pills would last 25 days....almost a month. So very rough maths says £20 = one month, so a a year would be £240. That's not terrible!!

[neversaynever]

Folexen have a site (its Australian I think) where they are selling S-equol.

If someone was to test it they would need to be off all other meds.

Its about £20 for 100 pills and you are meant to take 4 per day so 100 pills would last 25 days....almost a month. So very rough maths says £20 = one month, so a a year would be £240. That's not terrible!!

We still dont know how much equol one would need to equal fin in terms of dropping dht levels.

10mg is very small. Guys on forums are going for like 100mg and over. Noone knows...

I think those guys claim 10mg is enough to maintain, probably based on a 6 month human trial (at 10mg). I think the overall gain was around 2% density, while the control group lost around 2%. Its vague...

[neversaynever]

Once equol binds to DHT. That DHT becomes something else right? Its no longer DHT. So what does it become? How does the body get rid of it?

[2020]

Once equol binds to DHT. That DHT becomes something else right? Its no longer DHT. So what does it become? How does the body get rid of it?

something like this:

[neversaynever]

something like this:

Does that mean you dont know?

If neo was to stand there for 6 months stopping bullets, whos gonna pick up the bullets from the floor? Someones got to do it...

[2020]

it becomes inactive = can't bind to AR. Finasteride binds to 5ar and deactivates it so how is it any different?

[yeahyeahyeah]

I have a feeling equol will do **** all.

[2020]

I have a feeling equol will do **** all.

virtually impossible.

We know for a fact that it "deactivates" DHT so why wouldn't it work?