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  • PatientlyWaiting
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    Originally posted by 2020
    interesting... a bunch of people were regrowing hair left and right on hydrocortisone:

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    here's your cure:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clobetasol_propionate (side effects: Hypertrichosis)

    ^ if this doesn't regrow you hair, nothing will


    EDIT: RESULTS FROM CLOBETASOL PROPIONATE

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    after:
    Just to make sure, you're recommending this stuff for people with alopecia areata and not MPB, Right? I have used a couple of tubes of clobetasol propionate for Alopecia Areata, and have a big tube left. It was prescribed for me, for AA.

    For people reading this, do NOT use this for MPB, it does not work for MPB. Read the wikipedia page that 2020 linked, it says

    Clobetasol propionate is used for the treatment of various skin disorders including eczema, psoriasis, and lichen sclerosus. It is also used to treat several auto-immune diseases including alopecia areata, vitiligo, lichen planus (auto immune skin nodules), and mycosis fungoides (T-cell skin lymphoma).
    Aside from wikipedia saying this, I use it every single day, and I can tell you it does not regrow hair loss caused by MPB.

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  • damielmillo
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    Hi 2020, do you think that S-equol can work like Finasteride or Dutasteride but without side effects?
    Can Folexen mantain and maybe thicken up the existing hairs?
    I am really interested in this product...
    If at least can mantain i am Done!!

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by BaldinLikeBaldwin
    hey 2020 in a post earlier this year you said a cure would be available by the end of the year, do you still believe that?
    I said: WE WILL KNOW by the end of this year if we'll be cured in the next 5 years or not.

    I personally am not interested in any future treatments except for Histogen.... it has the most potential but it's also a gamble since we know so little about it

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  • BaldinLikeBaldwin
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    hey 2020 in a post earlier this year you said a cure would be available by the end of the year, do you still believe that?

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by 2020
    interesting... a bunch of people were regrowing hair left and right on hydrocortisone:

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    here's your cure:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clobetasol_propionate (side effects: Hypertrichosis)

    ^ if this doesn't regrow you hair, nothing will


    EDIT: RESULTS FROM CLOBETASOL PROPIONATE

    before:


    after:

    needhairasap, was supposed to be trialling this stuff, but i guess he probably didnt stick with it long enough to see any regrowth, dont know what the situation is with him though.

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  • 2020
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    interesting... a bunch of people were regrowing hair left and right on hydrocortisone:

    Search the world's information, including webpages, images, videos and more. Google has many special features to help you find exactly what you're looking for.





    here's your cure:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clobetasol_propionate (side effects: Hypertrichosis)

    ^ if this doesn't regrow you hair, nothing will


    EDIT: RESULTS FROM CLOBETASOL PROPIONATE

    before:


    after:

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  • yeahyeahyeah
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    Originally posted by JDW
    Is anyone on here getting that s-equol Folloxen product that's being talked about on ***?
    I might order it.

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by 2020

    and how do you know that's not due to TRX2 and saw palmetto where both have some positive studies so you certainly wouldn't be the first one to regrow hair on either one of those.
    its difficult tell if youve regrown hair if your not fully bald. Leaving it to human vision to assess whether youve rergrown hair (unless you are slick bald) is very hard, although i believe i have regrown some hair on my regime although not where i would like it to grow. Hence why i want a guinea pig that is a slick bald nw5/7 to see what this can do on them.
    Its not trx2 or saw palmetto alone, its definetley the combination, that is preventing me from further balding - 2000%

    Originally posted by 2020
    dude that drug has been around for like 50 years and millions of people take it for arthritis plus I'm sure you can get it for cheap nowadays. It's definitely safe.
    Yeah i know but stil...you never know, i would have to stay on it for around a year or two and cant really commit to that.

    Originally posted by 2020
    This also comes back to: why aren't those millions of people on NSAIDS regrow any hair?
    its very difficult to assess if you have regrown hair unless you are slick bald hence why its one of the reasons why people dont/cant take notice.
    Also i doubt even if people noticed they regrew hair using it they would come on places like this to document it.

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  • JDW
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    Is anyone on here getting that s-equol Folloxen product that's being talked about on ***?

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by gutted
    why do you keep going on about histogen? histogen works long term through possibly many unknown mechanisms, (even possibly indirect downregulation of cox 2) and right know i would take hostogen over ANY "inconvenient" topical or drug.
    because I've been researching their science for the past month and I don't think that HSC would work long term especially if there is some kind of "switch" rather than "damage" which I think is the case. Stem cells simply turn off so that's the main problem. HSC also claims that they grow BRAND NEW FOLLICLES.... yeah I don't think so


    Originally posted by gutted
    yeh i know benaxoprofen is a suicide but the underlying principle needs to be researched further.
    it does!

    Originally posted by gutted
    the "crap" im taking is without a doubt definiteley maintaing for me, as for regrowth, ill know more with time.
    and how do you know that's not due to TRX2 and saw palmetto where both have some positive studies so you certainly wouldn't be the first one to regrow hair on either one of those.

    Originally posted by gutted
    dont want to take sulfasalazine due to possible sides but full regrowth of a hairline = cure.
    dude that drug has been around for like 50 years and millions of people take it for arthritis plus I'm sure you can get it for cheap nowadays. It's definitely safe.

    This also comes back to: why aren't those millions of people on NSAIDS regrow any hair?

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by 2020
    perhaps? But how could Histogen POSSIBLY overcome this "semi-permanent" overexpressed COX-2 expression?

    benaxoprofen is a suicide and it doesn't prove ALL of it since not many people in the experiment experienced the reversal of MPB.




    also, the crap you're taking won't do much. You should at least try sulfazine which is like a "weaker" benaxoprofen with minimal side effects.
    why do you keep going on about histogen? histogen works long term through possibly many unknown mechanisms, (even possibly indirect downregulation of cox 2) and right know i would take hostogen over ANY "inconvenient" topical or drug.

    yeh i know benaxoprofen is a suicide but the underlying principle needs to be researched further.

    the "crap" im taking is without a doubt definiteley maintaing for me, as for regrowth, ill know more with time.
    dont want to take sulfasalazine due to possible sides but full regrowth of a hairline = cure.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by gutted
    there is no "permanent switch". Its fully reversible with time.
    Benaxoprofen proves this.
    perhaps? But how could Histogen POSSIBLY overcome this "semi-permanent" overexpressed COX-2 expression?

    benaxoprofen is a suicide and it doesn't prove ALL of it since not many people in the experiment experienced the reversal of MPB.

    Out of 300 patients who had taken benoxaprofen for a mean of 6.4 months, 196 (65.3&#37 reported side effects, resulting in 104 patients (34.6%) having the drug withdrawn.

    also, the crap you're taking won't do much. You should at least try sulfazine which is like a "weaker" benaxoprofen with minimal side effects.

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  • gutted
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    Originally posted by 2020
    how could they miss such an obvious thing - inflammation.

    Bad news just keep coming in.... if it turns out that MPB is caused by some "permanent switch" rather than some real damage than we're screwed.

    I almost wish that MPB was auto-immune at this point.
    there is no "permanent switch". Its fully reversible with time.
    Benaxoprofen proves this.

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  • 2020
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    Originally posted by gutted
    well, semi permanently.

    you cant deregulate it forever, its part of you. What needs to be done is inflammation controlled which elevates cox2 further more in addition to the natrual hair cycling cox2 expression through androgens.

    trx2, msm, curcumin, garlic extrct, saw palmetto.
    how could they miss such an obvious thing - inflammation.

    Bad news just keep coming in.... if it turns out that MPB is caused by some "permanent switch" rather than some real damage than we're screwed.

    I almost wish that MPB was auto-immune at this point.

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  • gutted
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    well, semi permanently.

    you cant deregulate it forever, its part of you. What needs to be done is inflammation controlled which elevates cox2 further more in addition to the natrual hair cycling cox2 expression through androgens.

    trx2, msm, curcumin, garlic extrct, saw palmetto.

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