Any topical treatment to look forward to in the future?

[ppxrare]

So I guess nothing to look forward to? No company is planning on surprising us with a good hair loss drug in the near future? not even Merck whos propecia patent will end soon?

[Dazza]

2020: from the OC thread you said that was the "CURE" now your also saying this EQUOL is also a "CURE". So we have 2 potential cures for hairloss yet no companys are producing this stuff directly for hairloss? Seems strange, it's almost like they hate money and fame for finding the "CURE"

[2020]

I've participated in several clinical trials, as a healthy volunteer, and they always ask "any other symptoms or issues to report?"

So in all these trials you say have taken place with equol, no one has reported any hair growth.

a lot of these trials are to measure other health benefits... so they test women with menopausal symptoms or something like that. Normal women won't grow more hair with DHT blockers...

Have any of the trials dosed long enough to produce hair growth?

some of them probably

[maxhair]

I've participated in several clinical trials, as a healthy volunteer, and they always ask "any other symptoms or issues to report?"

So in all these trials you say have taken place with equol, no one has reported any hair growth.

Have any of the trials dosed long enough to produce hair growth?

Even if not, there should be some DIYers who have taken large doses over a long period. Where the f*uck are they?

[2020]

looool clock is ticking...

what clock? I will murder your face

[2020]

So, this study has been out since 2004, and yet no one has documented any hair growth with this substance since then, and forum addicts are spending 20G on HTs, but not one of them can afford to try this stuff and report back?

exactly...

I've been to the company's website, and they make no claims about its effectiveness - not even any anecdotal claims.

uhm what company? As far as I know no one can patent bacteria so no one can own it. What company are you talking about?

Are there any anecdotal claims, anywhere, from anyone who has used it, that says it so much as slows hair loss?

dude it's been tested in vitro, vivo rats and vivo in humans with prostate issues. It works! It binds to DHT that's what it does. It also has a bunch of other healthy functions so why it's beneficial to take it orally. It helps with diabetes I've heard....

How does anyone know what dose to take?

much higher than you think. In all of those studies they used 50-300 and more mg DAILY:

http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=equol

How does anyone know there are 'no side effects' at a dosage large enough to slow or reverse hairloss, when they don't know what that dose should be?

well first of all, certain people(mostly asians) make equol bacteria NATURALLY.
Do you think they suffer from side effects? Check the studies I posted above. It's been tested a lot with zero side effects.

whilst the science sounds interesting, it doesn't make sense that no one has reported any results yet.

I know right...

[gutted]

I'm not until I find a legit source with reasonable prices... I will gut you face

looool clock is ticking...

[maxhair]

So, this study has been out since 2004, and yet no one has documented any hair growth with this substance since then, and forum addicts are spending 20G on HTs, but not one of them can afford to try this stuff and report back?

I've been to the company's website, and they make no claims about its effectiveness - not even any anecdotal claims.

Are there any anecdotal claims, anywhere, from anyone who has used it, that says it so much as slows hair loss?

How does anyone know what dose to take?

How does anyone know there are 'no side effects' at a dosage large enough to slow or reverse hairloss, when they don't know what that dose should be?

whilst the science sounds interesting, it doesn't make sense that no one has reported any results yet.

[2020]

looool no.

when are you getting your hands on it.

I'm not until I find a legit source with reasonable prices... I will gut you face

[gutted]

are you being sarcastic?

looool no.

when are you getting your hands on it.

[2020]

So why arent u taking an equol suppliment

as I said: too few sources with god knows what they're selling... could be fake equol. Also, it is MUCH MORE expensive than fin... it needs to be cheaper

[2020]

looooool

you need to get your hands on it asap!

are you being sarcastic?

[yeahyeahyeah]

it could actually be.... fin pretty much delays cancer by about 5 years(figure sound familiar?) so those people would much rather have you get cancer so they could get more money.



not interested in becoming a producer.

I'm interested in taking EQUOL DIRECTLY.

oh and yes it works why wouldn't it? There are actual studies measuring its DHT inhibiting capabilities... no DHT = no hair loss.

EQUOL is the cure.

So why arent u taking an equol suppliment

[gutted]

it could actually be.... fin pretty much delays cancer by about 5 years(figure sound familiar?) so those people would much rather have you get cancer so they could get more money.



not interested in becoming a producer.

I'm interested in taking EQUOL DIRECTLY.

oh and yes it works why wouldn't it? There are actual studies measuring its DHT inhibiting capabilities... no DHT = no hair loss.

EQUOL is the cure.

looooool

you need to get your hands on it asap!

[2020]

Where are the double-blind placebo-controlled studies which prove equol works, and indicate optimum dosing?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14681200

it blocks DHT we know that. No one has tested it on MPB people though just prostate. It's dose-dependent unlike fin so you could in theory block as much as 100% of DHT

And why is it, that the experimenters on baldness forums, taking dozens of supplements, are so far not bothering with equol?

denial, very few legitimate sources, too expensive....