Any topical treatment to look forward to in the future?

[2020]

First I have heard of this ramatroban, will have a read up on that.

With the whole OC product, the people that were getting this product produced, are they working on a new source or have they just gave up?

they're working on other sources but it seems that every other lab charges a lot of money for it

[Dazza]

First I have heard of this ramatroban, will have a read up on that.

With the whole OC product, the people that were getting this product produced, are they working on a new source or have they just gave up?

[2020]

On topic(al) pun intended. 2020: you have stated that this EQUOL and OC are both cures. Both seems great on paper, but human body's are complicated. Have either of these products been tested for hairloss or are they just theory's?

emu oil is a weak PGD2 blocker and we know from before that it does work for some people.
Some person on HLH is trying ramatroban which is another PGD2 blocker and he claims that within 2 weeks, his acne and shedding disappeared completely so obviously something is happening.

about equol:
it hasn't been tested on MPB people although we know from prostate studies that it is very effective at "blocking" DHT so I'm sure your hair will respond positively to less DHT also.

That one company did a small study where they showed ~2% growth after 6 months with 5mg dose... it did maintain for most people I guess but the problem is that 5mg won't block that much DHT
If they were to use 50mg or 100mg, I'm sure the results would be much much better.

[Dazza]

Handbags at dawn.., insults over the Internet? Really...

On topic(al) pun intended. 2020: you have stated that this EQUOL and OC are both cures. Both seems great on paper, but human body's are complicated. Have either of these products been tested for hairloss or are they just theory's?

[2020]

your response was...."i will gut your face"


looooooooooooool

I'll break your legs, put them back together, and break them again....

[gutted]

what are you talking about? I asked you to explain why fin causes side effects... you responded with lool. You must be retarded

your response was...."i will gut your face"


looooooooooooool

[2020]

looooooool dude you need to fix up.

what are you talking about? I asked you to explain why fin causes side effects... you responded with lool. You must be retarded

[gutted]

white boy... I told you I was gonna gut your face. You are one pathetic loser.

looooooool dude you need to fix up.

[2020]

looooooooooool

white boy... I told you I was gonna gut your face. You are one pathetic loser.

[gutted]

no dude, please tell me what causes fin sides in your opinion. Go on...

looooooooooool

[2020]

...

10char

no dude, please tell me what causes fin sides in your opinion. Go on...

[gutted]

You don't know what you're talking about.

...

10char

[2020]

the differnece in taking eqoul as opposed to fin is that the bodies homeostasis will not be initiated.

exactly because it operates similarly to your own natural androgen binding proteins... none of the other hormones are disrupted == NO SIDE EFFECTS

anyway the key is to find a balance - 2020 is saying suppress all of dht with eqoul which is NOT right.

do you acknowledge the fact that sides from 5AR inhibitors come from hormone imbalance and excess estrogen that is caused by them and not from the lack of DHT?

95% of your DHT is suppressed by your body naturally so what's another 4-5%? You don't know what you're talking about.

[gutted]

Ah nice, thanks for the links. You probably are the only dude on baldtruth who knows his shit but i gotta disagree with you on this stuff. I don't really like the idea of depriving the body of DHT altogether, is this what this treatment does?

It says it binds to DHT so that sounds to me same as fin. If it can't bind to AR receptors then DHT will not be doing what it is supposed to do in other parts in your body.

you have a valid point which 2020 failed to respond to with an adequate answer!

eqoul is a very very good alternative to fin if you have a problem with dht levels, but what hes suggesting you do with it, will almost likley result in sides similar to what fin results in (possibly even greater!)

the differnece in taking eqoul as opposed to fin is that the bodies homeostasis will not be initiated.


anyway the key is to find a balance - 2020 is saying suppress all of dht with eqoul which is NOT right.

[2020]

It seems as though with both products the equol is extracted from soy.

Can't really see the difference.

soy does not contain equol. NOTHING in the world contains equol.
Equol is made naturally in some people who are able to convert soy to equol...
If your body can't convert soy to equol then you're wasting time eating all that soy. Most people can't make that conversion and those who can may end up producing very little equol so they will never be sure how much soy they would need to consume to get the desired results.
It's a very complicated process so it's much easier to just chemically produce that equol molecule and give it to people directly bypassing all those soy conversion problems