Why isn't Spencer one of Dr. Ziering's Histogen test subjects?

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  • stilted
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 30

    Why isn't Spencer one of Dr. Ziering's Histogen test subjects?

    Or is he? In the interview Ziering stated only one test subject was from LA.

    It's not like he's adverse to taking chances -- didn't he start minox and fin before they were approved to treat baldness?

    It just seems like it'd be a great advantage for his show and us listeners, not to mention for his own benefit. Granted, it would lead to a slippery slope. He shouldn't just test everything out there. But Histogen sounds promising, especially for guys in his Norwood range. Who cares if he takes fin? He's been taking it long enough to the point where any improvement would surely be from the Histogen and not fin.

    Also, I'm in LA too, and I'd love to be a test subject. Sign me up, Ziering!
  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    #2
    because Spencer makes too much money by promoting hair transplant doctors... Histogen(if successful) would destroy that business

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    • gmonasco
      Inactive
      • Apr 2010
      • 865

      #3
      Originally posted by stilted
      It's not like he's adverse to taking chances -- didn't he start minox and fin before they were approved to treat baldness?
      If he's taking finasteride, that would probably disqualify him from being a trial subject.

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      • stilted
        Member
        • May 2012
        • 30

        #4
        Originally posted by gmonasco
        If he's taking finasteride, that would probably disqualify him from being a trial subject.
        Yeah, but in the interview it didn't seem that Ziering was collecting any real "data" for Histogen; I don't think he's a part of their clinical trial, which is taking place in the Philippines. He states he's not taking any microscopic pics, etc., he's simply using the product and relaying subjective info back to them regarding the overall cosmetic improvements the drug may or may not induce. And as I stated before, given the length of time Spencer says he's been using fin, any improvements would have to be attributed to HSC and not fin...

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        • Tracy C
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 3083

          #5
          Originally posted by 2020
          because Spencer makes too much money by promoting hair transplant doctors... Histogen(if successful) would destroy that business
          This is a false belief.



          Originally posted by gmonasco
          If he's taking finasteride, that would probably disqualify him from being a trial subject.
          This is the true reason. Those participating in these studies are not allowed to be using any other treatment for hereditary hair loss. Doing so would corrupt the findings.

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          • 2020
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1513

            #6
            Originally posted by Tracy C
            This is a false belief.
            how so? Those doctors DO PAY large sums of money to be listed on his website

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            • gmonasco
              Inactive
              • Apr 2010
              • 865

              #7
              Originally posted by 2020
              because Spencer makes too much money by promoting hair transplant doctors... Histogen(if successful) would destroy that business
              Then why would he bother promoting interest by interviewing Dr. Ziering about Histogen in the first place?

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              • PayDay
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 544

                #8
                What kind of sense does that make? If histogen works all of the hair transplant doctors are going to be the first to offer it. It’s also unlikely to make surgery obsolete and will only be something that improves these doctor’s businesses. I don't think Spencer has anything to worry about. Also he is the only one who is getting us all of this inside information about these treatments why would he be working so hard to make this information public if it was going to put him in jeopardy? It’s so naive to think that hair transplant doctors fear these treatments coming out, Dr. Zeiring himself is a hair transplant doctor, why would he be involved in these studies if he actually believed it would put him out of business? It’s so stupid to make comments like this! The more treatments that are made available and promoted by Spencer the better for everyone's bottom line, including ours.

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                • Kirby_
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 439

                  #9
                  Originally posted by PayDay
                  If histogen works all of the hair transplant doctors are going to be the first to offer it.
                  I've always thought this too, if Histogen actually makes it to the market. It'd be an ideal new 'tool' for HT surgeons.

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                  • Maradona
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 822

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Kirby_
                    I've always thought this too, if Histogen actually makes it to the market. It'd be an ideal new 'tool' for HT surgeons.
                    I don't think there will be FUE/FUT doctors when Histogen comes out to market, just saying.

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                    • 2020
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1513

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Maradona
                      I don't think there will be FUE/FUT doctors when Histogen comes out to market, just saying.
                      ^ exactly. I'm sure some of those hair transplant clinics will switch their business to provide HSC injections rather than transplants which will no longer be needed since you can get unlimited hair from HSC so why bother with permanent scars?

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 2020
                        ^ exactly.
                        Both of you are wrong. Histogen and Replicel with reduce the need for surgery but they will not completely illuminate it.

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                        • Tracy C
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3083

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          Both of you are wrong. Histogen and Replicel with reduce the need for surgery but they will not completely illuminate it.

                          You both need to change your avatars to something more appropriate.

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                          • mlao
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 384

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Tracy C
                            Both of you are wrong. Histogen and Replicel with reduce the need for surgery but they will not completely illuminate it.
                            I think you mean eliminate it, no?

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                            • yeahyeahyeah
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1776

                              #15
                              Originally posted by mlao
                              I think you mean eliminate it, no?
                              No, she meant illuminate.

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